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[Trevelyon]

heh... but we're assholes when it comes to refugees.

"Watch your tongue or you'll be on the next flight out to Tajikistan"

 

[Scrow]

but we sure know what a knife is

 

[Saturnman]

How do you intend to stay in Australia, Flanders? The list of immigration applicants must be quite long already so you being allowed to move there could be a couple of years away.

 

[Guzim]

I also know that instead of the death penalty Australia likes to give bootings.

 

[Hitokage]

iapetus: There are some poisonous snakes in my area, but you never see them inside. What I'm talking about are those huge fucking spiders whose appearance indoors are not so uncommon. Giant insects and arachnids indoors are a red flag for me.

 

[Fowler]

Australia is a lovely place. The people are awesome. The weather (in places) is great. The food (especially seafood) is fantastic -- hell, even the fast food tastes good. And it's absolutely chock full of hotties. Seriously, Australians are hot. And they live in this gigantic nice sunny country. No wonder they're so damned nice.

Sadly, a lot of the things people like about Australia -- isolation, wide open areas, slower way of life -- just don't appeal to me at all. I'm from Hong Kong, and I like being in a busy city, I like being connected to the outside world, etc. I'm a news and sports junkie, and sadly Australia can't really compete with the news and sports coverage I get here -- hell, I get to watch more live Premiership matches than people in ENGLAND do. Can't get the latest games or gadgets or DVDs out there, and when you do you have to pay out the ass for it. I've spent a good chunk of time in Melbourne and Brisbane and I've been to Sydney, but things are too... small, slow, laid back. Creeps me out a bit, to be honest. And even though it's close to Asia, it's still a good 8 hours from HK, 12 from Tokyo, etc.

Still, it's a really really nice place. And it's FULL OF HOTTIES.

 

[Nerevar]

Australia is a lovely place. The people are awesome. The weather (in places) is great. The food (especially seafood) is fantastic -- hell, even the fast food tastes good. And it's absolutely chock full of hotties. Seriously, Australians are hot. And they live in this gigantic nice sunny country. No wonder they're so damned nice.

:lol

Look, I love Australia as much as any foreigner, but in recommending the country one thing I avoid is food. They have a great mix of Asian food, but that comes from the surrounding area. Actual Australian food is terrible. Vegemite? Meat pies? It's honestly some of the worst-tasting food on the planet. All of the good food in Australia comes from othe cultures.

 

[Sirpopopop]

I'll give you some advice from the perspective of an American who has lived in Australia.


Melbourne wouldn't be right for you climate wise. The saying, "Four seasons in a day", is a very apt way to describe the weather in that city. In the course of one day, you will deal with cold weather, rain, and humid weather. Plus, the city is more European in its flavor than American. Personally, I prefer Melbourne to other cities in Australia. But, that's because I love trams and other silly things like that

Food - Avoid Vegemite. Awful awful stuff. Don't believe an Aussie when he tells you it's good stuff. It's most certainly an acquired taste...

If you're in Melbourne though, check out the Greek restaurants, and some of the Asian places.

The Crown area is alright... but you've seen a lot better in the States.


You would like Sydney - In many respects, it reminded me of the States. It has better clubs than Melbourne, and the climate is a lot more like South Texas than it is in Melbourne.


Avoid Adelaide at all costs. A boring city with nothing to do.

If you ever go to the Outback though, visit a town called Coober Pedy. There is a crazy nut there called Crocodile Harry, great chap.

 

[Ned Flanders]

How do you intend to stay in Australia, Flanders? The list of immigration applicants must be quite long already so you being allowed to move there could be a couple of years away.

Well thats the thing...as I stated earlier, I know nothing about immigrating to another country, which is why I asked for input regarding what hoops I'd have to jump through.

 

[seanoff]

Tax rates 2004-05

Taxable income


Tax on this income

$0 – $6,000 Nil

$6,001 – $21,600 17c for each $1 over $6,000

$21,601 - $58,000 $2,652 plus 30c for each $1 over $21,600

$58,001 – $70,000 $13,572 plus 42c for each $1 over $58,000

Over $70,000 $18,612 plus 47c for each $1 over $70,000

The above rates do not include the Medicare levy of 1.5%.


Universal GST @ 10%. All prices must be shown GST included.

 

[Kola]

I'm from Hong Kong, and I like being in a busy city, I like being connected to the outside world, etc. I'm a news and sports junkie, and sadly Australia can't really compete with the news and sports coverage I get here -- hell, I get to watch more live Premiership matches than people in ENGLAND do.

Little thread hi-jacking, hope you don't mind...

I'm moving to Hong Kong coming January. Being German I'm quite interested in watching the Bundesliga, but also the Premiere League and the Spanish La Liga are two favorites of mine. Same applies to the Champions League which is currently a must for me. Can't live without it. I've read several books about HK, talked with lots of people living there, but still I don't have any clue about the situation concerning watching football in TV.

After reading your post it seems to me, that watching the Premiere League bodes no problem at all? Does the same apply to the other leagues or is the Premiere League just an exception because HK was British territory not long ago? What about the CL? Are you watching them live? I mean, CL games start at 8:30pm GMT or GMT +1 which means that they would be shown at about 3:30-4:30am HK local time...

Are there some free TV channels or do you watch Premiere League games in pubs and the like? If it helps, I'm residing on Hong Kong Island (Hong Kong Central), attending University there.

If I, by some accident, am not able to watch (at least the highlights) of Werder Bremen - Olympique Lyon and Chelsea - Barcelona in HK I don't know what happens.

Thanks in advance.


Oh, and while I'm posting here: Are there some good universities in Australia which aren't too expensive and offer a wide range of subjects or a LLM (Law) for foreign students? I heard Perth would be a good place to stay for a year, especially because the living costs are said to be 1/2 of the generel West-European standard. But my sources are not really reliable, so I was wondering if there's any truth to that. Would you say Perth is a good choice? On the one hand I need to live in a big city, on the other hand Sydney and Melbourne seem to be quite expensive?

 

[Fresh Prince]

You live in Texas right?
I would say Queensland is the state most suitable for you.
Nice weather with more redneck tendacies up north and west to the state. Plenty of coast though they are cane toads though.

 

[iapetus]

Well thats the thing...as I stated earlier, I know nothing about immigrating to another country, which is why I asked for input regarding what hoops I'd have to jump through.

Why didn't you say so?

http://www.visabureau.co.uk/australia/assessment/

http://www.acacia-au.com/skilled-migration-points-test.php

 

[Optimistic]

Avoid Adelaide at all costs. A boring city with nothing to do.

If you ever go to the Outback though, visit a town called Coober Pedy. There is a crazy nut there called Crocodile Harry, great chap.

Yeah...Adelaide, I think, is a nice place to grow up, but a terrible place to visit. In fact, I'm planning to get the hell out of Adelaide next year and got o England for 6 months plus. I need to see what a real city is like. :lol

Oh and Coober Pedy is a total dump, you're crazy!

 

[Mr Gump]

Sydney is the place to be. The nightlife is only made comparable by melbourne. Tonight for new years eve, the city is an absolute party.

Oh, and hasnt sydney won the greatest city in the world to live in for many years in succession? This is from the american mag travel + leisure which iirc is the most respected magazine of its type. This takes into account many factors, with melbourne always being clost.

Ill try find the article.

here
Cant find a more comprehensive one though...

 

[Fresh Prince]

Sydney is the place to be. The nightlife is only made comparable by melbourne. Tonight for new years eve, the city is an absolute party.

Oh, and hasnt sydney won the greatest city in the world to live in for many years in succession? This is from the american mag travel + leisure which iirc is the most respected magazine of its type. This takes into account many factors, with melbourne always being clost.

Ill try find the article.

here
Cant find a more comprehensive one though...

For millionaires....
Melbourne with Vancouver has been rated as the most livable cities for average folks.

 

[All Hail C-Webb]

I was born in Melbourne and lived there untill I was 11. I then moved to New York, and have lived in NYC since then, but it now looks like I might be moving back down under. I'm so confused, I don't know if I should be looking forward to it, or dreading it. I love the city life, people out 24 hours a day, always got things to do, and Australia has none of that. I remember a relative who had lived in New York for a few years came to visit us in Melbourne, she wouldn't stop bitching about how dead the city is, and how she would die if she had to be there for more than a year; she called it the "nicest cemetery on earth."
Sydney might be nice, but I don't have fond memories of it as a kid, and I know it rains a whole lot.

The only things that I have to look forward to are the warmer weather, and a litttle less crowding.

I suppose if you've never left, Australia is a great place to be, but if you've experienced city life, prepare for a big let down.

The AFL is great, but it's not going to make up for losing the NBA, NFL, and MLB. It only lasts for a few months out of the year, and then there's nothing.

 

[Cutley]

Start saving if you want to live on the northern beaches of sydney. If you don't have money move to redfern is a real nice area.

 

[Fresh Prince]

I was born in Melbourne and lived there untill I was 11. I then moved to New York, and have lived in NYC since then, but it now looks like I might be moving back down under. I'm so confused, I don't know if I should be looking forward to it, or dreading it. I love the city life, people out 24 hours a day, always got things to do, and Australia has none of that. I remember a relative who had lived in New York for a few years came to visit us in Melbourne, she wouldn't stop bitching about how dead the city is, and how she would die if she had to be there for more than a year; she called it the "nicest cemetery on earth."
Sydney might be nice, but I don't have fond memories of it as a kid, and I know it rains a whole lot.

Melbourne is to New York, is Sydeny to LA.





Apparently.

 

[All Hail C-Webb]

Melbourne is to New York, is Sydeny to LA.





Apparently.

Melbourne and New York don't belong in the same sentence. The CBD in Melbourne is like the smallest neigborhood in Manhattan.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Shit even I know that

I just want to put a slur on Sydney.

 

[Deleted member 1235]

Its not easy to just "move" to another country from the US. Its not like going to live in California after living in Texas. I'm not real sure about Australia, but I know New Zeeland does not make it easy to move there. The best way for NZ is to work in a field that is in short supply. But just some Joe Blow American is not going to get in.

The guy I used to work with was going on vacation to NZ every year or so, and wanted to retire and move there (he was in his 50s). But after checking it out, they decieded to not even bother to try. Somebody from a former British colony or the UK has a much better chance.

The Aussies may be a little more accomedating tho, I'm not sure.

Really? I thought we had almost a revolving door policy.... I think that's just for rich asians and indians judging by the booming population. Chinese people here outnumber the maoris now. Having said that, I don't think I have ever met an American living in NZ....

I'm going to go and live in Sydney within the next year, that place is fucking awesome. My goal is to have a cool apartment on manly beach. I love manly beach. Hell I love any beach where topless sunbathing happens so often that it's not even a thing.

And sydney weather is terrific, whoever said it rains a lot, well I guess it's relative *looks out window and cries*

 

[Sirpopopop]

Yeah...Adelaide, I think, is a nice place to grow up, but a terrible place to visit. In fact, I'm planning to get the hell out of Adelaide next year and got o England for 6 months plus. I need to see what a real city is like. :lol

Oh and Coober Pedy is a total dump, you're crazy!

shh...

 

[speedpop]

iapetus: There are some poisonous snakes in my area, but you never see them inside. What I'm talking about are those huge fucking spiders whose appearance indoors are not so uncommon. Giant insects and arachnids indoors are a red flag for me.

Something I was going to add. There are spiders literally everywhere, my girlfriend is from Singapore and she shat herself when she saw the first non-venomous spider over here, it was only a small one.. about 5-6 cm in diameter, but she said it was bigger than the ones she sees in Singapore.
I said to her, well wait till you see a big Wolf Spider or Huntsman, you'll die of a heart attack.

Other things:

Vegemite is the shit. Vegemite on toast with a glass of milk = heaven.
Meat pies are the shit. Warm meat pies at a footy match = heaven.

Also don't expect a real big night life either. Stores close at 5pm, suburban area's they're open till 9pm on Thurs, cities it's 9pm on Fri. Most people don't bother going out unless it's the usual Thurs (uni students mostly), Fri & Sat. Most cities have their own little suburb that is home to the night life usually. For Brisbane it's Fortitude Valley, which is about 15 mins walk from the CBD. Sydney I just assumed it was always at Kings Cross, but you have Oxford St near Paddington, where all the gay bars are if you need cheap drinks. And George St in the CBD gets quite lively on weekends due to rebel teens without a cause creating gangs.

Sydney is good, city is nice, trains are terrible and the traffic is horrendous. Try not to live in the south and west regions. Taxi prices as well in Australia are stupidly high, will cost you $5-8 to go up the street.

Melbourne is good too, I compare it a lot to Brisbane since the music scene is alike and the laid-back atmosphere as well. Just that in Melbourne you'll freeze your arse off in Winter, in Brisbane you'll be wearing shorts and shirts in Winter

 

[Azih]

SIX CENTIMETERS? ARE YOU INSANE?

Edit: What do you do? Poison the bastards with vegimite?

 

[Sirpopopop]

Aussie's view of crime is quite different than ours.

I remember when I was in Melbourne, I was told "Sydney Road" is a rough place to head out to.

I think I only saw a cop car there once my entire time there. (I used to go the Puggs bar there quite a bit. Close to where I was staying, and on Wednesday's pints were a dollar I believe.)

Oh yeah if you're going to Melbourne - There is some lively night life on Church Street, and some nice places sprawled all around the CBD. Oh yeah, I can't forget St. Kilda. There is a nice bar there called The Esperalda I believe. Everyone just calls it The Espy though.

The Crown Clubs suck. Waay too expensive. They do have a nice sports bar though which shows a lot of American sports. It's where you want to head to if you ever feel homesick, and want to interact with other Americans.

 

[Do The Mario]

Something I was going to add. There are spiders literally everywhere, my girlfriend is from Singapore and she shat herself when she saw the first non-venomous spider over here, it was only a small one.. about 5-6 cm in diameter, but she said it was bigger than the ones she sees in Singapore.
I said to her, well wait till you see a big Wolf Spider or Huntsman, you'll die of a heart attack.

Other things:

Vegemite is the shit. Vegemite on toast with a glass of milk = heaven.
Meat pies are the shit. Warm meat pies at a footy match = heaven.

Also don't expect a real big night life either. Stores close at 5pm, suburban area's they're open till 9pm on Thurs, cities it's 9pm on Fri. Most people don't bother going out unless it's the usual Thurs (uni students mostly), Fri & Sat. Most cities have their own little suburb that is home to the night life usually. For Brisbane it's Fortitude Valley, which is about 15 mins walk from the CBD. Sydney I just assumed it was always at Kings Cross, but you have Oxford St near Paddington, where all the gay bars are if you need cheap drinks. And George St in the CBD gets quite lively on weekends due to rebel teens without a cause creating gangs.

Sydney is good, city is nice, trains are terrible and the traffic is horrendous. Try not to live in the south and west regions. Taxi prices as well in Australia are stupidly high, will cost you $5-8 to go up the street.

Melbourne is good too, I compare it a lot to Brisbane since the music scene is alike and the laid-back atmosphere as well. Just that in Melbourne you'll freeze your arse off in Winter, in Brisbane you'll be wearing shorts and shirts in Winter

I disagree I could name many diffrent nightspots that would be packed every night except Monday.

 

[Bobety]

Come to Canberra- the most entertaining place on Earth!

 

[Do The Mario]

Come to Canberra- the most entertaining place on Earth!

Stop being silly, unless he has a porn addiction.

 

[cubanb]

Something I was going to add. There are spiders literally everywhere, my girlfriend is from Singapore and she shat herself when she saw the first non-venomous spider over here, it was only a small one.. about 5-6 cm in diameter, but she said it was bigger than the ones she sees in Singapore.
I said to her, well wait till you see a big Wolf Spider or Huntsman, you'll die of a heart attack.

i googled images of this spider..... holy shit guys, how many of these do u see? does everyone carry a hammer for these things. Im pretty sure id end up with holes in my walls from the hammer very soon