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Welcome to the NeoGAF Autechre discussion thread. To the few, the Rochdale duo are electronica maestros. To many, they are - at least from their fifth or sixth album - indecipherable.

This thread is for all; the veteran fans, the newbies, the detractors, the old-schoolers and the new path converts. We've a broad and deep discography to delve into, one spanning over twenty years of growth and change, of side-projects like Gescom, of an extraordinary number of remixes and rare tracks.

But why should an enigmatic electronic outfit get a thread all of their own? Simply due to their variety and astronomical change over the years. The Autechre journey from their roots in hip-hop/b-boy and graffiti culture in the late 80's/early 90's rave years to the forefront of today's avant garde electronica is an incredible path; disappointing for some, enlightening for others.

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Autechre are an English electronic music duo consisting of Rob Brown and Sean Booth, both natives of Rochdale, Greater Manchester. Formed in 1987, they are one of the most prominent acts signed to Warp Records, a label known for its pioneering electronic music and through which all Autechre albums have been released.

While heavily associated with IDM (intelligent dance music), Booth and Brown are ambivalent to relating their sound to established genres. Their music has exhibited a gradual shift in aesthetic throughout their career, from their earlier work with clear roots in techno, electro and hip hop to later albums that are often considered experimental in nature, featuring complex patterns of rhythm and subdued melodies. Oversteps, their most recent album, was released in early 2010.

Autechre have also recorded under various pseudonyms. One of the duo's earliest recordings was a 12" under the alias Lego Feet, released in 1991 on Skam Records. The majority of releases by the mysterious "umbrella project" Gescom, most of them on Skam, have been attributed to Booth and Brown, among other artists.

Brown and Booth met through Manchester's graffiti scene in 1987 when they both lived in Rochdale. Heavily influenced by electro and hip hop, they began trading mixtapes and then creating their own compositions while collecting a handful of cheap equipment, most notably a Casio SK-1 sampler and a Roland TR-606 drum machine. Their first release was Lego Feet, a 12" recorded under an alias of the same name brought out by Manchester's Skam Records. Their first release as Autechre was the single "Cavity Job" in 1991, released on Hardcore Records. Two more tracks appeared during the following year, under the now finalised Autechre name, on the Warp Records compilation Artificial Intelligence, part of the series of the same name. The compilation contained "The Egg", later reworked for their first full length release under the title "Eggshell".

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Booth and Brown pronounce the name Autechre with a Rochdale accent (/ɔːˈtɛkər/ aw-tek-ər). However, they have explained that the name can be pronounced in any way one sees fit. Booth explains: "The first two letters were intentional, because there was an 'au' sound in the track, and the rest of the letters were bashed randomly on the keyboard. We had this track title for ages, and we had written it on a cassette, with some graphics. It looked good, and we began using it as our name."

Influences/Reception

A wide variety of influences have been noted as discernible in Autechre's music. The duo's roots in tagging, early hip-hop and electro music, and b-boy culture in general are still evident, with many reviews noting hip-hop rhythms - sometimes heavily obscured or processed, and sometimes explicit even in later work. All of Autechre's live webcasts have featured large amounts of early hip-hop and electro. In a review of Oversteps, The Wire noted "Treale" as being "a reminder of Booth and Brown's musical apprenticeship as teenage B-boys".

As Autechre's music and studio setup progressed, reviews started to note influences from farther afield; experiments in algorithmic and generative synthesis, musique concrète, and FM synthesis drew comparisons with Iannis Xenakis and Bernard Parmegiani from critics such as Paul Morley. Autechre also cite Coil as a major influence, with an unfinished collaboration of unknown completeness occurring around the release of LP5 and EP7.

Autechre's music has attracted diverse reactions. Though generally hailed, praise is not universal even within the coterie of artists normally labelled IDM: Aphex Twin, for example, claims that Squarepusher "doesn't like Autechre". Opinion has also been divided on the specific qualities of the duo's music. Of LP5, for example, reviewers said both that "all the songs are cut from the same sonic cloth" and that it was "one of their most diverse ... works to date".

Autechre are well aware of the incongruous reactions their work elicits, saying that descriptions of their music "usually run contrary to each other" and that "every time we have an album out, we get conflicting reports". As with many artists, they have themselves raised questions about their earlier work; Rob Brown mentioned that Incunabula and Amber retrospectively sounded "cheesy" in a 2008 interview with Pitchfork Media prior to the release of Quaristice.

Music Videos

Basscadet - 1994 // Directed by Jess Scott Hunter
Second Bad Vilbel - 1995 (2002 Re-edit) // Directed by Chris Cunningham
Gantz Graf - 2002 // Directed by Alex Rutterford

Collaborations/Remixes/Rare (will update via thread input)

Autechre

Autechre & Mari Hamada - Aire
Autechre Play Weissensee Against Im Glück (Original Composition by Neu!)
Seefeel - Spangle (AE Remix)
Dominique Dalcan - Aveugle & Sourd (AE Remix)
Gescom - Keynell (AE Remix)
Saint Ettiene - Like a Motorway (Skin Up, You're Already Dead AE Remix)
Schaft - SKF10047 (AE Remix)
Autechre - Basscadet (Basscadubmx)
Beaumont Hannant - Psi-Onyx (Autechre Remix)

Gescom

Gescom - Boogie Down Bronx
Key Nell 1 (1996, Key Nell EP)
Pelt (1998, This EP)
Viral Rival (1998, This EP)
Chunge (1998, That EP)
Slow Acid (2003, ISS:SA EP)

Complete Discography

Albums

1993: Incunabula
1994: Amber
1995: Tri Repetae
1997: Chiastic Slide
1998: LP5
2001: Confield
2003: Draft 7.30
2005: Untilted
2008: Quaristice
2010: Oversteps
2013: Exai

EPs

1991: Lego Feet
1994: Anti EP
1995: Garbage (combined with Anvil Vapre for Tri Repetae++)
1995: Anvil Vapre (combined with Garbage for Tri Repetae++)
1997: Envane
1997: Cichlisuite (also known as Cichli Suite)
1999: Peel Session
1999: EP7 (CD combining vinyl EPs EP 7.1 and EP 7.2)
2001: Peel Session 2
2002: Gantz Graf (also released as a DVD)
2003: æ³o & h³æ (2xCD Minimax, collaboration with Hafler Trio)
2005: æo³ & ³hæ (2xCD, collaboration with Hafler Trio)
2008: Quaristice.Quadrange.ep.ae (digital exclusive 13-track EP bundle)
2010: Move of Ten
2011: EPs 1991 - 2002 (set of 5 CDs; includes Cavity Job, which is released on CD for the first time)
2013: l-event

Singles/Promos/Remixes

1991: "Cavity Job" (12" vinyl single limited to 1,000 copies)
1994: Basscadet (five remixes – six on vinyl – of "Basscadet" from Incunabula; also known as Basscad)
1996: "We R Are Why" (12" vinyl promo.)
1997: Radio Mix (hour-long DJ remix of own and other artists' tracks)
1999: "Splitrmx12" (12" vinyl promo limited to 3,000 copies)
2008: "Quaristice (Versions)" (Limited to 1,000 copies, contains remixes of 11 Quaristice tracks)
2008: Digital Exclusive (3-track EP available only in the Japanese iTunes Store)

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Thanks to:

Wikipedia
Various Review Sites
Youtube
The GAF Autechre Contingent with special thanks to Poimandres

I will update this thread with the help of the GAF AE fans, so link and list away so we can create the fullest, richest AE experience this side of xltronic.
 

daviyoung

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Their sounds are too crazy for me. Listening to them is like being beamed into a future of music that I just don't understand.
 

Flo

Member
I've heard of them before but had completely forgotten about them. Now I don't know where to start because there is so much.
 
daviyoung said:
Their sounds are too crazy for me. Listening to them is like being beamed into a future of music that I just don't understand.

Understandable, but the pre-Confield back catalogue has enough sonic goodies to enjoy! I'll add a Gescom section when I'm refreshed.

Flo said:
I've heard of them before but had completely forgotten about them. Now I don't know where to start because there is so much.

While a fan would say start from the beginning...I dunno, it's probably easier to do that. Also, I only covered the albums, but the EPs are integral to enjoying the entire progression/direction. Each EP is a key transitional stepping stone between albums for the most part. Also, their full-length EPs, EP7 and Move of Ten? Brilliant. EP7 is some savage post-hiphop arrangement if ever I've heard some.
 
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Deleted member 1235

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tried listening to them, just don't get it.
 

Davidion

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I admit, I'm not geeky enough for a lot of the more...experimental shades of Autechre. I have to start with something a lot more easily digestible like Arovane.
 
Wow, don't really think their output quality deserves a topic like this but props on the in depth first post.

I wish they would ditch the super cold mechanical glitch and go back to the style of their earlier output. Warm melodies and nice glitch never gets old.
 
Danne-Danger said:
Put Amber and Incunabula into Wipeout HD and never look back.

Poimandres and I used to have a fair whack of Tri Rep as our Burnout 2 splitscreen head-to-head music, a collection of AE tracks I now have as a custom soundtrack for both WipEout HD AND Need for Speed: Hot Pursuit! Awesome stuff.
 

Ollie Pooch

In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Incanabula / Amber / Tri Repetae / Garbage / Chiastic Slide / Lp5 are incredible. ('PIOBmx19' from Garbage in particular kind of freaks me out.) I don't 'get' their later stuff generally, aside from a few tracks. Just too weird and structureless for me. But that earlier stuff is so inhuman sounding, with this amazing cold sound with amazing melodies that blows my mind even still. For about a year I used to go to sleep listening to Confield and would have the craziest dreams - still, I've tried to get into their later stuff and just can't do it.
 
Of their post-LP5 work, Untilted is probably my favourite. Such unbelievable track progression. It took a good few listens, though. It's true what they say, the newer Autechre albums make you damn well work for them.

Quaristice is probably the patchiest of them all. I mentioned this in another thread, but it felt like a snapshot album, just quick cuts from works-in-progress. Great for fans, but at the same time, not an album I reach for.
 

genjiZERO

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Being that they're so influential I've tried to get into them, but they're just a little too unstructured I think. I wish their music had movements in them.
 

Withnail

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I was really into these guys for a good while but then kind of stopped listening to their stuff. I haven't heard anything they've released since Draft 7.30. Their music is really impressive but it can be hard work as well.

My favourite album of theirs that I've heard is probably Tri Repetae. I own that and LP5 on vinyl and have some of the other releases on CD. I admire Confield as an album, though I can see why it is so divisive. From their EPs I like Cichlisuite a lot.

Thanks for the interesting and informative OP Pylon_Trooper. You have inspired me to check out Oversteps!
 
One of my favourite groups. I think after hundreds of hours of listening Confield is my favourite release of theirs followed up by LP5 and Ciclisuite.
 

Ollie Pooch

In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Where's umop 3pısdn?

Pylon_Trooper said:
Of their post-LP5 work, Untilted is probably my favourite. Such unbelievable track progression. It took a good few listens, though. It's true what they say, the newer Autechre albums make you damn well work for them.
Yeah, in my case it's probably that I don't have the time at the moment that I used to, to just dive into an Autechre album and absorb it. There's a quality to their music that I haven't really found elsewhere very often - where a track will completely bend and change without you really realising it. Hard to explain what I mean!

Funny this thread came up - I was just thinking today while riding home how I have to get back into all my electronic stuff again. Moving across the country soon and work situation is changing so Im' gonna have heaps of time. Looking forward to it.
 

dkeane

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Love Autechre — after seeing them live a couple times in small venues their live sound is just so much more powerful than listening to an album. Can't wait to see them next time they come around.
 
Impressive OP, Pylon_Trooper. Subbed.

The music of Autechre has always been a useful tool to spark my creativity. I listen to them or any other IDM artist when I'm painting or designing something.
 
julls said:
Yeah, in my case it's probably that I don't have the time at the moment that I used to, to just dive into an Autechre album and absorb it. There's a quality to their music that I haven't really found elsewhere very often - where a track will completely bend and change without you really realising it. Hard to explain what I mean!

Funny this thread came up - I was just thinking today while riding home how I have to get back into all my electronic stuff again. Moving across the country soon and work situation is changing so Im' gonna have heaps of time. Looking forward to it.

It's that initial 'study' time that allows a new AE album to click and stay clicked. Confield was definitely the hardest for me, followed by...hmmm...maybe Untilted?

In regards to the pre-LP5 work, I'd be hard-pressed to say which album is my favourite. One track does stand out, though...Garbage's Vletrmx. My God, what an insanely vast track. So simple in construction, but I picture universes collapsing to that particular tune.
 

joelseph

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slightly OT but it will be interesting to hear Aphex Twin's new release. (This year?) IDM has seemed to be left behind from last generation.
 
joelseph said:
slightly OT but it will be interesting to hear Aphex Twin's new release. (This year?) IDM has seemed to be left behind from last generation.
One can only hope.

Hell, RDJ could release a single of this -track- and I'd be content.
 

Ollie Pooch

In a perfect world, we'd all be homersexual
Atramental said:
One can only hope.

Hell, RDJ could release a single of this -track- and I'd be content.
Fuck, I love Aphex Twin. SAW2 is like the soundtrack to my later teenage years. Incredible.
 
julls said:
Fuck, I love Aphex Twin. SAW2 is like the soundtrack to my later teenage years. Incredible.

I'd like to see him make a comeback of sorts. For me, his discography (and the alias degeneration) became a little too wrong in the signal-to-noise ratio. SAW2 remains one of the most amazing ambient albums of the modern era, and I really liked ICBYD and RDJ, but everything else post that era felt a little too...inconsistent and patchy.

It's probably why AE remains my favourite electronic outfit...they've got a real sense of purpose, everything is so minutely and meticulously crafted. Little if anything is left to randomness, nor is it the sound of prepackaged sound banks.

My two cents, though. I love seeing threads pop up on folks discovering Aphex for the first time and reading about how their entire outlook on music has changed/brain exploded.
 
it would be nice if Aphex Twin would come out with another album, but Richard D. James is well aware that he doesn't need to make another album, but it's the world that needs to hear it. His irreverence is pretty great.


On topic: I've been hooked to Chiastic Slide. I also like the Peel Sessions and Splitrmx12. Where should I go next for more melodic Autechre?

Autechre is my friend's favorite group, but he skews towards the noisier glitch side.
 

Peru

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Untilted is actually my favorite Autechre release. I never got all the comments about how difficult it is - it's funky, playful, catchy, for me. It's like an Autechre party with tunes that shift and sway with pure groovy energy.

Their last two albums are good, with stand-out tracks, but don't match the cohesive albumness of Untilted for me. And from earlier stuff, of course Amber is incredibly beautiful and so on.
 
Random thought: Most of this music came out when I was still a child and I'm amazed how much of an affinity I have to it. I only started listening to IDM back in 2005 but I swear I've had this music in my head even before then. If I had the resources and the time I would love to create the sounds that are still dancing in my brain.
 
Peru said:
Untilted is actually my favorite Autechre release. I never got all the comments about how difficult it is - it's funky, playful, catchy, for me. It's like an Autechre party with tunes that shift and sway with pure groovy energy.

Personally, it was the utterly live panache that Untilted offers that made it a little gruff for the first couple of listens. But, like Confield - Pen Expers, once it clicks and you figure out the construction and direction, it's goddamn gorgeous! Totally unconventional melodic goodness in Untilted - but that's par for the course with AE.

Smision said:
Where should I go next for more melodic Autechre?

The earlier you go, the more conventionally melodic AE are. They've got a great selection of remixes, both under Autechre and Gescom. It'll be a work-in-progress to add them to the OP. Stay tuned, though.
 
joelseph said:
slightly OT but it will be interesting to hear Aphex Twin's new release. (This year?) IDM has seemed to be left behind from last generation.
IDM as genre label is dead, but the concepts and sounds are alive as ever since there's elements of it in pretty much everything released these days.

Some of the more esoteric "dubstep" and "electro" releases these days would have been defined as IDM if they came out 5+ years ago. Also, a ton of indie/electro pop that's been released is basically IDM instrumentals with lyrics plastered over them.
 
Pylon_Trooper said:
Personally, it was the utterly live panache that Untilted offers that made it a little gruff for the first couple of listens. But, like Confield - Pen Expers, once it clicks and you figure out the construction and direction, it's goddamn gorgeous! Totally unconventional melodic goodness in Untilted - but that's par for the course with AE.



The earlier you go, the more conventionally melodic AE are. They've got a great selection of remixes, both under Autechre and Gescom. It'll be a work-in-progress to add them to the OP. Stay tuned, though.


cool. snagging Amber now

here's an interesting Gescom remix:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tkBJV11DA5E

Mask 500 is a comp of 80s remixes by Skam aliases

there's also mask 100, 200, 300, and 400...but 500 is the best imo
 
tri repetae ++ is my undisputed favorite late night driving album

incunabula is up there too

i haven't listened to any of their stuff after untilted though, i should get into that
 

Vanillalite

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I have this shirt I got off of CafePress that is an Autechre shirt. Only problem is everyone probably thinks it's AE for American Eagle or something. LOL

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Vanillalite

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The Interrobanger said:
IDM as genre label is dead, but the concepts and sounds are alive as ever since there's elements of it in pretty much everything released these days.

Some of the more esoteric "dubstep" and "electro" releases these days would have been defined as IDM if they came out 5+ years ago. Also, a ton of indie/electro pop that's been released is basically IDM instrumentals with lyrics plastered over them.

As someone who sort of fell out keeping track of IDM, but has recently tried to get back into it (I asked for some recommendations in the big IDM FB group) I came to a similar conclusion.

One the one hand it's totally cool that IDM has seeped into the rest of the music world on some level. I still wish I got more IDM focused albums though. The indie stuff is close, but tends to be less "out there" and with the vocal stuff.

PS: Where the fuck is my new BoC album?!?!?!?!!
 
I was always kinda wary of the term IDM. I mean, it's apt in notion, but it's one of those nebulous descriptors that ends up sounding a little too close to wanky idealism for its own good.

Updated the OP with the remixes/Gescom tracks mentioned. Keep 'em coming.
 

Salmonax

Member
Brettison said:
PS: Where the fuck is my new BoC album?!?!?!?!!
Seriously.

Put me on the pile that loves, loves, loves AE's earlier stuff and sort of gradually fell off as it sounded increasingly like they just let various algorithms duke it out over the course of an album.
 
Smision said:
Nice! subbed

i love chiastic slide and the Neu remixes on splitrmx12
I've seen you post empty "subbed" things a few times... you don't have to post to subscribe to a thread, bro.

The Notwist's first album mostly sounds like Ben Gibbard singing over Autechre.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
I've seen you post empty "subbed" things a few times... you don't have to post to subscribe to a thread, bro.

The Notwist's first album mostly sounds like Ben Gibbard singing over Autechre.



it's a way to let the OP know his thread was awesome and worth subbing to.


Brettison said:
PS: Where the fuck is my new BoC album?!?!?!?!!



if they're even working on something, there should be news soon. its been 4 years since that Trans-Canada EP.

but they're notoriously off the radar all the time...I wouldn't be surprised if they quit and just didn't tell anyone!

I'd be happy with some fucking reprints of their vinyl. and all of the warp catalog for that matter.
 
Excellent OP! Old-school fan here.

Eggshell on Incunabula remains one of my fav tracks by them (but I've stopped keepin up, so don't know what they're up to now.)

Edit: Oh yeah, and that Garbage EP as well. I like them best when they try to be melodic.
 
I was wondering about how to chart the progression of Autechre via picking a single track from each album (maybe including a track from their EPs, too) to showcase the change.

Might be an interesting little list exercise for a few folks, even those who've fallen off the wagon due to the sound and direction of the new stuff.
 

winter

Member
The Interrobanger said:
Wow, don't really think their output quality deserves a topic like this but props on the in depth first post.

I wish they would ditch the super cold mechanical glitch and go back to the style of their earlier output. Warm melodies and nice glitch never gets old.

Really? They are incredibly influential and lot of their sound was the basis for Kid A and Amnesiac.
 
The Interrobanger said:
Wow, don't really think their output quality deserves a topic like this but props on the in depth first post.

I wish they would ditch the super cold mechanical glitch and go back to the style of their earlier output. Warm melodies and nice glitch never gets old.

Is that a Seven Ark avatar I see?

Personally, I feel the quality of their output is very high and rather consistent. Most IDM artists seem patchy in comparison. I'm curious who you feel in the genre deserves more recognition than Autechre. Also, as much as I love warm melodies and glitchy beats I wouldn't want Autechre to regress.

I'm a huge fan of Autechre, and I'll do a proper write up of my thoughts when I get home from work.
 
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