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Avatar 2 being released in 3D, IMAX, high framerate, and 160 languages
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TransTrender
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National Association of Theatre Owners (NATO) President and CEO John Fithian
TheMan
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Lol, I was like don't they have more important shit to worry about
scoobidoo112
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O-N-E
Member
Anime often uses variable framerate to great effect. Was wondering if it would become more of a thing in movies.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
Depends on the movie.
I'm fine with my TV set on motionflow or whatever it's called for smooth video. Sports is the best. But I leave it on and watch TV ads in smooth motion and even watched some Indiana Jones on some movie channel. It was pretty weird but you get used to it.
Only problem is some movies some reason don't work well. Not sure why. When I watch NF, most content is smooth, but the occasional movie is jerky no matter how much I try to adjust the settings.
In those cases, I turn it off and watch it the normal way and realize how choppy movies really are without it.
Rat Rage
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It's fucking awful. Even 48fps was bad, like with the Hobbit movies. Luckily there was an option to watch them in 24fps and in 2D back in the day. I really hope there's going to be a 24fps + 2D option for the Avatar sequels, otherwise I'm just not gonna watch them. There is nothing more immersion breaking than non cinema framerates for movies. 3D sucks as well.
Punished Miku
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It looks like watching a play on stage. The presence of the actors looks a lot more real.
This has the dual effect of making some things look awesome but making other things look fake because it felt like I was on the actual set and could see the special effects and costumes better as just props.
I think its going to be sick in Avatar. It should be standard in any action or martial arts movie.
El Pistolero
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When are they planning to release a trailer?
20cent
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After they start filming.
V1LÆM
Gold Member
i know avatar gets a lot of shit but i'll still go watch it. the first one caused a huge push towards 3D which i didn't like but i respect it. cinemas need to seriously improve their tech, especially after covid, so this is great. hopefully we start getting higher res/fps as standard. films i've seen recently are so blurry and a lot of scenes could do with higher frame rate.
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24 frames is just because they couldn’t do better and most don’t know better. Younger generations don’t see the soap effect.. besides this film makers need to come up with all kinds of short cuts to make a 24 frames movie.
Cinema needs to evolve .. glad that there is a James Cameron .
Cinema needs to evolve .. glad that there is a James Cameron .
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Whitecrow
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Very appreciated clarification.
Aggelos
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"The first teaser trailer for the film is stated to be attached to the release of Doctor Strange in the Multiverse of Madness on May 6, 2022."
Preview: 'Avatar 2' Trailer Gets a Date
Also: 'Thor' reshoots and COVID stalks the circuit as Oscar's super-spreader potential mounts
theankler.com
"Now, Zoe Saldana is telling future viewers of the film to “brace themselves” after being treated to a viewing of the opening 20 minutes. Speaking to journalist Kevin McCarthy while promoting Netflix’s The Adam Project, Saldana said she was shown the footage “right before the year ended” in December 2021, and said that she was left in tears by what she watched."
Zoe Saldana issues warning to movie fans after watching part of Avatar 2
‘I can get choked up just talking about it,’ actor said
www.independent.co.uk
HoodWinked
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It's a bummer that 3D isn't as common it's always been so enjoyable personally.
One good thing is that people haven't seen 3D in awhile so it may have had enough time off to cool off so it can be enjoyed again
One good thing is that people haven't seen 3D in awhile so it may have had enough time off to cool off so it can be enjoyed again
Spaceman292
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JimmyRustler
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Cinemas still have and use the tech though. It will be interesting to see if 3D will bounce back for home theater when Avatar 2 is released.
Punished Miku
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I'm going 3D at the highest frame rate available in the theater.
I hope everyone talks more shit on James Cameron. It gives me life to see people being extremely wrong. The shit talking build up to the first Avatar was amazing.
I hope everyone talks more shit on James Cameron. It gives me life to see people being extremely wrong. The shit talking build up to the first Avatar was amazing.
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
You can see a 60 fps trailer of Gemini Man on Youtube. You'd expect that a higher frame rate would make action scenes more exciting, but hyperrealism kills the believability of OTT action scenes.
Punished Miku
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It only kills unbelievable scenes. Believable scenes from elite stuntmen or martial artists just look better. Similar thing with sports.
Phunkydiabetic
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Pagusas
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im in a weird head space with the first movie, I recognize how impressive it was technically, but also feel it was a shit movie story and character wise. I got dragged to it so many times in theaters by friends that it’s novelty wore off and now I just down right resent it’s existence.
Mattyp
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Stephen Lang better come back and lay waste to the traitor and every bit of green on the planet with our superior tech, I swear to god.
48fps was horrible on the Hobbit but the entire movie was green screen, this will be to but if anyone can pull it off for first time it will be James so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
48fps was horrible on the Hobbit but the entire movie was green screen, this will be to but if anyone can pull it off for first time it will be James so I’ll give him the benefit of the doubt for now.
Punished Miku
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It's not the best story ever, but it's an 80s era sci fi director making a new, big movie. I'll take it. I was able to forgive Prometheus as well for similar reasons.
Only to old generations .. young people are used to it. 24 frames is laughable low imo ..
Phunkydiabetic
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Young people are used to watching movies with framerates higher than 24fps?
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Punished Miku
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Not movies. But my girlfriend's camera on her phone is HFR now, so I guess that's something. Not sure if Tiktok does that shit or not, but maybe. That's all she watches. Cat videos in HFR are definitely superior.
Phunkydiabetic
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Just weird to say young people, everyone is exposed to high framerate video these days. I just haven't seen a movie use it that didn't look ridiculous.
The just consume content .. not thinking why does this not stutter
Billbofet
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Hobbit looked terrible (HFR) as you could tell the sets were cardboard and see the makeup on all the characters. I think Avatar being mainly CG, it will look much better.
I have watched Avatar a few times on my 3D projector and I put on the fast framerate - think it's 120 hz, and it looks fantastic. It's not realistic looking at all, but again, I think it fits the movie much better than human actors in a fantasy setting.
James Cameron seems to always be written off and ends up delivering very entertaining stuff.
I have watched Avatar a few times on my 3D projector and I put on the fast framerate - think it's 120 hz, and it looks fantastic. It's not realistic looking at all, but again, I think it fits the movie much better than human actors in a fantasy setting.
James Cameron seems to always be written off and ends up delivering very entertaining stuff.
StreetsofBeige
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Ya. When I did 3d movies in theatres it was decent. And I even had to put those 3d glasses on top my regular glasses. Still worked fine and wasnt as intrusive as I thought it was.
I think it died at theaters because there werent enough CGI filled movies to take advantage. And home use was pointless because not a lot of content was there and glasses were like $100 each or whatever. I do remember in the late stages (cost reductions or desperation?) LG was selling an 8 pack of 3d glasses for only like $100-200.
Or maybe it never caught on because for all the people who dont wear glasses, they said fuck it. Not putting something on my face. While people who already do wear them might not care. Who knows.
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SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
I watched Hobbit in HFR a day after watching it in a traditional theater and the first shot of them walking around made everyone laugh because it looked like they were walking around in fast motion like those Charlie Chaplin movies from the 1920s. The soap opera effect is definitely there but its the fast motion stuff that was very distracting for the first 15-20 minutes. Then your eyes get used to it.
The action scenes and especially the sweeping camera shots Peter Jackson loves so much were godly. Absolutely awe-inspiring.
In short, it's really good for action scenes. Really jarring for a slow scenes with characters just walking about. Soap opera effect are the least of its troubles.
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I agree. I leave on motionflow or whatever it's called on almost all the time. I like it. Not always good though as some movies some reason dont work well with it.
But as you said anything action related (including sports) is a must for smooth motion. TV ads I find awesome at smooth flowing frames. So much better.
For slow moving stuff like a family in the living room, it does resemble Days of Our Lives. But oh well.
SlimySnake
Flashless at the Golden Globes
You can actually see the full action scene on youtube at 60 fps. IIRC, it's a bike chase and an on foot chase around 10 minutes with some shootouts. It looks off because Ang Lee cant direct an action scene to save his life. Cant believe this guy made Crouching Tiger. He's regressed so much. His Iraq war movie is also shot in 60 fps and once again, it looks really bad at 60 fps on youtube, but i dont recall action scenes in hobbit looking this bad. Probably because Peter Jackson uses a lot of sweeping shots which benefit from the higher framerate reducing judders during camera pans, but I think it could also be because Ang Lee used a handheld camera for a lot of the action scenes in the Iraq War movie and Gemini man.
James Cameron wont make the same mistakes. Avatar was godly in 3D, and has some spectacular action scenes. No handheld shaky cam bullshit.
STARSBarry
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I recently got the WB ultimate release of LOTR and The Hobbit in 4K set, when I rewarched the hobbit I forgot how bad the constant CGI was, alongside the increased frame rate it gave the impression I was watching a videogame cutscene alot of the time.
poppabk
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I'm gonna stick to my head cannon that the NATO chief took time off from managing Finland and Swedens NATO applications and managing the response to Russia to focus on the more pressing matter of the Avatar sequels.
theclaw135
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I don't know why people are fixated on the Hobbit.
As far as I understand it the HFR version has been "vaulted", so to speak, no unadulterated 48fps footage is publicly viewable.
As far as I understand it the HFR version has been "vaulted", so to speak, no unadulterated 48fps footage is publicly viewable.