Mister Apoc
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do you think it will surpass the MCU in terms of action/battle scenes
do you think Cameron is better at directing action then what you see from Marvel?When has James Cameron ever not delivered when it comes to spectacle and action scenes?
Hahahahaha yesdo you think Cameron is better at directing action then what you see from Marvel?
do you think Cameron is better at directing action then what you see from Marvel?
someone said the fight in Black Panther surpasses T2 in an old thread a while backHahahahaha yes
Terminator 2 set the bar
Joke thread?
I don't understand the thread. MCU action scenes are rancid turds.
Damn straight.We'll see, but Cameron has made some now iconic, legendary action scenes.
Turns out the Russo Brothers are only as good as their second unit stunt teams. Both of those you mentioned are done by some of the best action/stunt guys in the biz, while much of the other stuff in MCU is not. And just look at The Gray Man for when Russo Brothers are more hands on with their action, wooo boy it's rough.The Russo Brothers delivered a few scenes that were minor tier Cameron scenes, but thats about it. There have been a lot of good comic splash page type.scenes in the MCU nut action wise it is decidedly middle to low rung stuff.
Damn straight.
Arent you a marvel fan?I honestly don't care. I just want the movie to come and go so I can stop hearing about it for fuck sake.
I am so tired of hearing about the ridiculous hype around this pile.
do you think Cameron is better at directing action then what you see from Marvel?
What about it?Arent you a marvel fan?
someone said the fight in Black Panther surpasses T2 in an old thread a while back
Well, you can't say what you said and be a Marvel fan.What about it?
What in the copypasta hell is this?James fucking Cameron's 12 year passion project vs soulless tepid tame garbage franchise for 12 year olds and casuals like an old christian mom or grandma or say a sorority girl or frat guy.
Basically people who aren't going to scrutinize or think anything about the craft or filmmaking. James Cameron is an alpha. An auteur. He actually directs his action with panache. As opposed to MCU who has directors who basically do nothing and all the action is done by mistreated underpaid VFX artist like 2 years before a script is even written.
What?What in the copypasta hell is this?
Oh you're serious, ok. It comes across as some copypasta thing. SorryWhat?
Oh come now, Cameron INVENTED half the CGI you are mocking him for. Dull and weightless are the least apt descriptions of his work.Will Cameron’s non stop wall of dull, weightless CG be better than the MCU’s non stop wall of dull, weightless CG?
Why is MCU the barometer here, because both the Avatar and MCU films use CGI?
Oh come now, Cameron INVENTED half the CGI you are mocking him for. Dull and weightless are the least apt descriptions of his work.
Tell me this is sarcasm please.do you think Cameron is better at directing action then what you see from Marvel?
I honestly don't care. I just want the movie to come and go so I can stop hearing about it for fuck sake.
I am so tired of hearing about the ridiculous hype around this pile.
James fucking Cameron's 12 year passion project vs soulless tepid tame garbage franchise for 12 year olds and casuals like an old christian mom or grandma or say a sorority girl or frat guy.
Basically people who aren't going to scrutinize or think anything about the craft or filmmaking. James Cameron is an alpha. An auteur. He actually directs his action with panache. As opposed to MCU who has directors who basically do nothing and all the action is done by mistreated underpaid VFX artist like 2 years before a script is even written.
Hey now Avatar is the pinnacle of Cinema cut the guy some slackTell me you don't know how movies are made without telling me you don't know how movies are made.
So instead of an actual refutation I get a stock reddit snarky reply? Kinda makes me think I do know how movies are made.Tell me you don't know how movies are made without telling me you don't know how movies are made.
So instead of an actual refutation I get a stock reddit snarky reply? Kinda makes me think I do know how movies are made.
Don't take it personally. DT loves himself some Marvel, that's all. It's fine, Cameron isn't really kicking down the doors with script depth or conceptual wonder (though I think the former is why his films are so commercially successful and the later IS there, just all in his tech bible and not always on screen) but no one should compare his efforts with the MCU. Though, TBF, virtually the ENTIRE MCU winked into existence between Avatar 1 and now so while they have been running lap after lap, Cameron has been, ever so slowly, turning to the crowd to say "Hey, hold my beer!"So instead of an actual refutation I get a stock reddit snarky reply? Kinda makes me think I do know how movies are made.
Actually I do and the irony of you saying that is killing me.No, actually you don't. Not from your post, anyway.
"CGI made before the script is written"
"Directors who basically do nothing"
"All the action is created by underpaid, abused vfx artists"
That sounds like you don't know how a movie is made. All the praise to Cameron but... The MCU has actual great directors like Coogler and the Eternals director and Raimi and Branaugh and... I don't know man... You just sound like ... Eh. Whatever.
Like Nerdrotic likes to joke about: "Marvel doesn't hire directors, they cast them".I believe this (https://www.insider.com/marvel-plan...rs-before-filming-previs-visualization-2021-1) is what A arkhamguy123 is referring to. So on the one hand this IS "Marvel" the movie machine laying out the film, often before the director is hired. On the other hand, this is basically what the script is for in the first place, and if it saves money/ allows for more dev time for effects, it's hard to deny the results for the MCU compared to lots of films with far worse continuity, script issues or effects that this previs thing could have avoided.
yeah, that came as a surprise to me and tbh, explains why all Marvel movies feel so samey. The action scenes are mocapped or animated literally in a lab years before the director even gets involved.I believe this (https://www.insider.com/marvel-plan...rs-before-filming-previs-visualization-2021-1) is what A arkhamguy123 is referring to. So on the one hand this IS "Marvel" the movie machine laying out the film, often before the director is hired. On the other hand, this is basically what the script is for in the first place, and if it saves money/ allows for more dev time for effects, it's hard to deny the results for the MCU compared to lots of films with far worse continuity, script issues or effects that this previs thing could have avoided.