Is MCU here to stay?

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Read that it could be around for decades, in similar way comic books are.

Continued through multiverses, recasting of actors, neverending with soft reboots, etc...

Myself, I love MCU, but do you think there really will be dozens of phases, and sagas?
 
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It'll be around as long as the mouse wants it to

mickey mouse falling GIF by South Park
 
I used to watch movies that I'm not interested in just so I will know the overarching story.

Current MCU haven't really given me a story interesting enough to dive into.

Everything is so disjointed and lack consequence.

They need a back to back banger of a movie winter soldier tier to regain my interest and an actual charismatic villain like Thanos.
 
Yes.

I don't mind this current stint, I don't need continuous build up of stakes or big villain. Ok, well, maybe now since it's been a while, but for a couple years, it's fine. I'm also fine with them trying out different characters, not like anyone but Hulk and Spidey were massively A Tier in the comics anyway, so if they strike it lucky again with random characters, go for it.

The fact they had such good output for so long is impressive. A few years downturn is common, expected even. I don't think they'll be in a rut forever.
 
I think superhero movies will continue to be around, and Marvel and DC having the biggest names means we'll still continue to get those in some form. But eventually they'll no longer be the dominant genre as they have been for the past couple decades. And with that we'll probably no longer have the franchise model of interconnected series because there won't be as many of them.
 
Look at how many fictional characters from centuries and centuries ago are still well known today.

Now bear in mind the likes of Spider-man and Hulk are famous GLOBALLY.
 
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No. They can't help themselves. As the C and D list heroes and villains keep coming out and Disney keeps losing money they'll reboot the whole thing.

It's like Sony; they keep taking the wrong lessons out of failure cause they keep chasing trends.

Spiderman is their only sure thing and Sony owns his rights. F4 is going to underperform big time. Superman is going to crush it especially internationally and Disney is going to freak.

Disney doesn't understand streaming but finalizes their purchase of Hulu from Comcast yesterday. Their shows have largely failed and when they don't (like andor and moon knight) they cancel them.

But please keep making shitty obi won tv shows
 
I think they'll keep them around, but they'll fade from "main event cinema" just like westerns and scifis did. Trends will come back around though and we'll see remakes of classic plot lines again.

But regarding do I think we'll always have a major Avengers film every few years? At some point no, I think Doomsday will generate good money but it'll be the last Avenegers film to break a Billion, and we'll see Disney majorly pull back after Battleworld/whatever it'll be called.

Honestly I think it'll be a lot like Harry Potter. A decade in the spot light, a slow fade with newer films generating less and less interest until finally they stop making them (Like Fantastic Beast) and switch to other media/reboots to try kick starting it again, just like HBO is doing now with the rebooted Harry Potter tv show.

If that show fails (it won't fail, but it may end up not being as big as HBO hopes) we'll see the series go dormant for a few decades.
 
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As opposed to not make movies and TV shows about comic book heroes, a genre we KNOW will always have some people interested in watching.

Yeah just like romance and thriller genre, MCU is here to stay. Cheaper production but no way they close shop.
Lets talk again after the two Avengers movie coming.
 
The "MCU" as a connected universe and a massive fanbase of people who go see everything in it to follow the story is dead and died with Endgame.

However, making capeshit movies and TV shows and vidya will continue indefinitely, as it always has, and people will see stuff they want to see and ignore stuff they don't.
 
What's the last good MCU movie? After Endgame that is, if there is any to begin with. I really don't know anymore.
GotG 3 was after Endgame, right? I liked that one.
 
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They could probably just re-release them in order from Iron Man through Endgame and it would be more profitable than anything new they could make at this point. Even the terrible Thor ones.
 
I bet after the Dr Doom stuff, they reboot the whole thing and start with new avengers and new spideys and new Iron Man and the like. The comics did it all the time, the movies can too.
 
If the MCU was internally funded such that the money those first couple phases made were banked for future movies, then it would go on forever 'cause through Endgame they were making BANK. But now I suspect the MCU has lost money since 2020, the couple of strong performers can't cover for the financial bombs. Disney as a whole took a big hit in the past few years when they abandoned their audience. So i doubt Marvel has a big warchest and I think we will see a big pulling back from the stuff they have been doing for the past few years and a reconsolidation around their core characters and an attempt to regain trust. Fewer things and waaaaaaay less money being thrown at D+ shows for sure.

But with CGI and soon AI, I think the bar for adequate superhero depictions has never been lower, so I don't think the caped hero is going anywhere.
 
Definitely.
Once something becomes a big hit Hollywood will always try to keep it going.
Franchises like Terminator, Alien and Predator had like 2 good movies 40 years ago and they still can't let it go.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
Marvel comics has never rebooted, that's DC.
Marvel operates with a sliding (and compressed) timescale, so some things change like what war punisher fought in, but the characters are the same.
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I thought you had Spidey, and then you had Amazing Spidey. Basically different timelines of the same story.


But I do not know enough about it to be an expert. I will accept your explanation.
 
AJUMP23 said:
I thought you had Spidey, and then you had Amazing Spidey. Basically different timelines of the same story.
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amazing spider-man is the main book and has been running since 1963, all the other books like spectacular spider-man, web of spider-man and the one just called "spider-man" are for telling other smaller stories for people involved with the spider-people.
The only "alternate" big book was Ultimate Spider-man.
 
Probably at least for another 10 years yeah. If their movies are only doing half as well as they used to, thats still pretty decent compared to most movies. Both Thunderbolts & Captain America 4 were commercial flops and they still broke even.

It would take multiple big bombs for Disney to pull the plug.
 
Reizo Ryuu said:
amazing spider-man is the main book and has been running since 1963, all the other books like spectacular spider-man, web of spider-man and the one just called "spider-man" are for telling other smaller stories for people involved with the spider-people.
The only "alternate" big book was Ultimate Spider-man.
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I was looking it up and this quote.....

Marvel rebooted the Avengers, Iron Man, Captain America, Fantastic Four, and Thor titles, giving them to Jim Lee and Rob Liefeld (who never met a foot he could actually draw)—both former Marvel employees who had left to start their own studios.
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AJUMP23 said:
I was looking it up and this quote.....
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Yes they attempted a kind of reboot with a select few books because their popularity and sales were down, this event was called "heroes reborn" and was kind of a big crossover kind of event, and while it was a success financially, it was a giant failure critically and pretty much nobody talks about it anymore or references it.
It also took place in a "pocket dimension" so the rest of 616 marvel wasn't affected.
 
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If they're at a point where the best they can hope for with most of them is to break even, they should probably give the 'universe' part a rest and then have a fresh start.
 
As long as there's an audience for it, sure. Why not? It's nice to have some summertime popcorn flicks to shut your brain off with. In addition I hope we see some smaller odd standalone stuff that goes in a different direction. One of my favorite things done was the Legion series that is nothing like any of the movies out there.
 
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