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Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
Note: there will always be confusion about the difference between ballpoint pens and rollerball pens. In general, if your pen takes a gel ink, it is a rollerball. The Pilot G2 is a popular rollerball pen. Feel free to discuss rollerballs here, too, but try to be clear about whether the pen you are discussing is a rollerball or a ballpoint. A quick Google search should help you figure it out.
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I recently found myself employed as a chemist in the the pharmaceutical industry. We’re pretty small potatoes in the pharma world so, instead of withholding the cure for cancer from the world, we’re only withholding the sure for mild lactose intolerance. You have to admit, that is far less evil.

Basically what I do. Move colored liquids around and stare at them, pensively.

I showed up for orientation with what I consider a reasonable number of pens. I brought, no joking, 10 different pens and pencils (I travel everywhere with more like 20 different pens), and choosing what to bring almost killed me. One of the first things I learned in our intro to GMP (“Good Manufacturing Processes” - a set of guidelines mandated by regulatory bodies like the FDA), was that all documentation had to be done in blue or black BALLPOINT (red ballpoint is allowed for corrections to documentation, but that’s it). Even gel pens and rollerballs are banned, as they tend to smudge a bit. I almost walked out then and there (my love of fountain pens is well known), but I like making money and also my wife would have murdered me. If you have followed my previous threads, you’ll know how much I despise ballpoint pens. The ballpoint pen is to the fountain pen what “Dr. Pop” is to “Dublin Dr. Pepper.” There’s really no comparison.

Unfortunately, all new hires are asked to list a fun fact for the company newsletter about new employees. I wrote down that I was a calligrapher. My writing with a ballpoint is shit, however, which lead to a great deal of embarrassment in front of people who thought I was supposed to be some kind of handwriting expert.

My life is a real trial, let me tell you.

To top things off, our supply closet is filled with awful Papermate cheapo ballpoints, guaranteed to skip. And if your pen skips, you need to cross out your entry and make a note with the correct information. The FDA is hardcore about drugs you inject into the human body, so your paperwork has to be perfect. This should inspire confidence the next time you need to take a medication (the regulation is INSANE), but it bums me out to no end.

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Federal Department of A Not Fun Time
Petition to rename it Fountain pens are Definitely
Awesome.

Like any normal, rational, human being, I spent several evenings - literally a week’s worth, and I admit I am still browsing the web on an almost daily basis - looking for a ballpoint pen that would not fill me with hatred and shame. You would do the same thing, obviously.

Before I hit you with some hot ballpoint reviews, let’s briefly discuss the history of the most popular, widely used, “pens” in the world. And I use the word “pens” in the loosest possible sense.

The first ballpoint pen was invented by American leather tanner (or possibly banker - the records are not clear, and those are basically the same thing anyway. Strips of tanned leather are still used as currency in Rhode Island!), John J. Loud, for which he was issued a patent in 1888. It was a total piece of shit. That makes some amount of sense, as the crossover between leather goods and pens is not immediately obvious.


The modern ballpoint pen was patented in 1938 by the Hungarian-born Bíró brothers. The key was pairing the ball mechanism with a viscous ink - you’ll note that ballpoint ink dries fast and does not smear after about 2 seconds. Its waterproof, too. Johnny J. Loud had been using a water-based fountain pen ink, which leaked like crazy all over people's leather goods..


In much of the world, a ballpoint pen is still known as a “Biro,” which I have heard pronounced “beer-o” and “by-ro,” depending on the nationality of the speaker. On the other hand, in the US, we honor our heritage by referring to ballpoint pens as "JJ LOUDs."

Okay, I made up that last part (and reused the joke from my last thread, because I love it), but please start calling them that. I want this to catch on, I’ll accept “JLOUD,” if you’re being kind of casual around the office. “Hey, toss me a JLOUD, bro.” It’s catchy!

Bic, specialists in cheap,shitty products, purchased the Biro patent in the 40s and started cranking out ballpoint pens. Patent law was not a huge priority immediately after the war, so all sorts of companies started cranking our their own ballpoints. Even with market saturation, they were still initially sold as premium products, if you can believe it (a typical pen cost around $100). Gimbel’s department store had the first truly successful US ballpoint pen, the Reynold’s Rocket. The ad for this pen is uncomfortably suggestive.


A shift in the 1960s to cheaper and cheaper materials, as well as the development of the Bic Cristal in 1950 - still the world’s best-selling pen and a classic piece of industrial design - developed a new market for JJLOUDS/Biros, as cheap, disposable pens for the home, office, and bank teller window. Successful advertising campaigns apparently also helped, but I’m not sure how they could top the Reynold’s Rocket, which I find scandalous even today.


The success of the cheap ballpoint pen would eventually lead to the downfall of Western civilization, but business is business.

Today, you can spend pennies on a ballpoint pen or spend a fortune and get some piece of shit writing implement that nonetheless says “FERRARI” on the side.

(This pen is only about $30, but that makes no sense to me, what with the Ferrari branding...)

Yuck. The real secret here is that there are amazing pens in the $5-30 range and you can almost always modify pens and cartridges from different brands to work together. If you are stuck using ballpoint pens, the investment of just a few bucks will make your life a whole lot better. Don’t be surprised if Sharon from accounting finds reasons to linger at your desk and/or sleep with you in the mail room! With supply room intimacy, remember to keep things JJQUIET.

Switching gears, one trick my lawyer brother taught me is to always write in blue ink. This makes photocopies easy to spot. Nowadays, it’s easy enough to scan and print in color, but it’s still a decent practice.

Here are a few of my favorite ballpoint pens:


The Bic Cristal
If you don’t want to spend a bunch of money, the classic Bic Cristal is my choice for a cheapo pen. They write smoothly, they feel decent in your hand, and you can find them anywhere. Different sizes and colors will run you about $7/box. Watch for knockoffs, as the basic hexagonal clear pen is widely copied.

I have had two explode (but with the ink contained in the barrel), but I have a feeling the guy I share a desk with is just trying to subtly signal his displeasure at all of the pictures of LilBub I have put up in our cube.


Schneider Sharky
I received one of these in a stationery subscription box (an artist friend got me hooked on the iPenBox. They have all been great so far! Recommended!) and it quickly became a favorite. In fact, I'm ordering another as I type this. These German pens comes in funky colors with a slightly chunky body design. A smooth writer. $6.50 at Amazon.

Pilot Ballpoint Pen S20 (Deep Red)
Now we’re really talking. This is a gorgeous pen with a stained birch body. You can get it in brown, but the red is way more striking. This will take a fine or medium refill, so you can get the feel you want from the actual writing tip. The body has a subtle curve to it that looks fantastic. I adore this pen. You can get one for $30 from Jetpens, but it is under $20 from a Japanese reseller on Amazon (I’ve used this seller before, so no worries). The only issue is that it takes about 3 weeks to make it over from Japan and clear customs. Order the larger size ink cartridge from Jetpens before you actually get the pen - it makes it ridiculously smooth!

If you have to have a ballpoint, the Pilot S20 is the one to get.
Be careful using this around coworkers, or things are bound to get JJSEXY. [Edit: well, the next one is equally exquisite! I can't decide which I love more.)

There’s a mechanical pencil version, too.

Pilot Justmeet

There is a ballpoint version of my favorite mechanical pencil! These babies are made from 80 year-old ash trees reserved for the production of baseball bats. The pencil version is my all-time favorite, so I cannot wait to try the pen. Again, I ordered from a Japanese resller and this is taking forever to arrive. I’ll let you know how it is if and when it arrives.

I found the same pen on the Japanese Rakuten site. They offer free laser etching, which seems cool. The price is good, but shipping sucks. Also, at some point, you’ll need Google translate because you’ll have boxes to fill in with Japanese titles. Again, I’ll let you know how this goes [see later post!]. I have very high hopes. Were I not a married man, I'd go ahead and schedule a 4 hour meeting with Sharon from accounting for our sexiest conference room.

With the pencil, you want the "Justmeet SLIM" (search for Just meet - two words, too); for the pen, it's the "Justmeet SMART. There is a clunky multipen that looks and feels nowhere near as good (but you do get 3 ink colors plus mechanical pencil, if you can get past the ruined looks). There is also a "Dr. Grip" version that looks odd. The slim/smart version is where it's at. If you have trouble remembering, just think of adjectives that describe me! Skip past "short," annoying," and "weird," and you'll eventually get to "smart," and "slim." "If only we could JUSTMEET! I'd let Bagels PILOT me anywhere. He's so SLIM and SMART!" That's a handy way to remember a great pen!

Pilot Cocoon
The word is that this is the exact same pen as the beloved Pilot Metropolitan, just in ballpoint this time. They have some great colors and, if it feels like a Metro, this should be a winner. Amazon has a few colors.
Rakuten has more, but the shipping cost and speed suck. On the other hand, I *think* I filled everything out correctly to get free laser engraving. I’ll let you know how it looks/works when it arrives. I almost always go with orange, but the blue really caught my eye here.


Parker Jotter
This seems to be a favorite with pen nerds. Look at the reviews as only some versions come with all metal bodies. These are about $6-20 and Parker refills are a standard size in the pen world. I haven’t tried one yet. Long-time Parker fans say the Jotter used to be much better, so ask your aged relatives if they have any! Mention my name and it will all be cool.


Cross Townsend
On the more premium end, we have the Cross Townsend. This is traditionally the pen presidents use to sign bills into laws. Both GWB and Barack Obama have opted for the rollerball version, which I think sucks. Use the fountain pen! Come on!
A ballpoint version is about $70. My friend at work has one and it is quite nice. $70 nice? I’m not so sure.

Other Cross Ballpoints
Cross makes a lot of pens. The ones I have seen have struck me as unusually skinny. That might be a plus if you want a thin pen. I like the way they write. The price range is all over the place, so you can spend $5 or $500. Choices!

Uni Jetstream
These have a cult following, but mainly for the rollerball version. I’m pleased with the ballpoint I picked up. They cost up to $16, but some are way cheaper. They come in 0.38, 0.5, and 0.7. Pen sizing is nuts. A 0.7 can be called broad by one company and fine by another. I'd grab the cheapest Jetstream you can find in each size to see what works for you.

Fisher Space Pen
This is the pen that Fisher independently developed for NASA to use in space. It has a pressurized ink cartridge so it writes upside-down. I own a few variants of the Fisher Space Pen and they are all great. ~$20. I love the classic pocket pen (which becomes full-sized when posted), but there are many cool pens to choose from here. These are definite favorites in the pen world!

Tombow Airpress
Another pen that writes upside-down. I like how it writes, but I found it awkward to hold. $10


Sailor G-Free
This is worth trying out. You can twist a little knob at the top of the pen to adjust the springiness of the ink cartridge. It’s fun to mess around with and, if you like a little travel in your ink cartridge, this may be the pen for you. It’s $5.50 so it’s worth a try. It's certainly unique!


Pentel Vicuna
A well loved pen for $2.50.

Papermate Inkjoy
A dependable, comfy pen. No complaints. $14 for a box of 12.

If you have any suggestions, please let me know! I’ve left off any really high-end pens. I’d rather spend that money on fountain pens, but let me know if there is anything amazing out there that is worth the investment! I did kickstart two metal-bodied pens and I’m anxious to see how they feel. With the money spent and the high levels of pen thievery at work, I’m mainly looking at cheaper options to keep on my desk.

Your comments, questions and suggestions are always appreciated! I'll add more pens as my collection grows!

I just know a bunch of people are going to post rollerball pens because they did not glance at the OP and I will lose my shit. Please note if you are posting a favorite rollerball pen! I won't name names, Gattsu25.

(Honestly it can be hard to know what is a ballpoint and what is a rollerball, although the packaging usually says which is which. I'll try to let you know if you have misidentified the type of pen you posted!)

Happy ballpointing!

Places to look for pens:

Amazon
Jetpens (great for unusual, cheap pens)
Gouletpens (best for high-end pens)
iPenstore
Rakuten (descriptions often in something that only approximates English)
Penchalet (frequent sales)
*added* Tokyopenshop (great selection, good prices)
 
I had a Fisher Space pen that got put in the washer and dryer by accident. I'm thinking of picking up another one. They are nice and small.

Before that I was a small fountain pen fan with my Lamy Safari and Vanishing Point. But ink management wasn't fun and it would sometime leak.
 
What's that, wallet? Another Bagels thread and the money is just spontaneously leaking out? You don't say.

I hate ballpoints and rollerballs alike after moving into Fountain Pen world. I do have a (I think ballpoint) that was handmade by a colleague of mine at work rattling around here somewhere. Likely in my garage, I'll post a picture if I find it (and solicit feedback on what kind of refills it could likely hold).
 
My wallet Bagels! Your threads are not friendly to the poor thing. I am looking forward to a thread as grand as your fountain pen one.
 
Send that lactose cure my way.

In the meantime, I'll peruse your ball-point pen suggestions, scoff, and wonder off to buy a new fountain pen to replace my Safari (lost, apparently in a safari).
 
Do I need to check this thread regularly? No, absolutely not, because the last thing I need is more excuses to buy pens.
Am I going to subscribe to it anyway? y-yes
 
Ah yes, the awesome jungle of regulations when it comes to government paperwork.

Whats that? You wrote your entire report in light black ink, instead of slightly more black ink? Do it all over again! In triplicate! And don't forget to fill out these dozen other useless forms as to why you are being forced to waste your time like this!
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
Your wallets are probably pretty safe. You can get one really nice ballpoint that you will hardly ever use and spend the rest of your money on sweet, sweet fountain pens. :)
 

mhayes86

Member
To top things off, our supply closet is filled with awful Papermate cheapo ballpoints, guaranteed to skip. And if your pen skips, you need to cross out your entry and make a note with the correct information. The FDA is hardcore about drugs you inject into the human body, so your paperwork has to be perfect. This should inspire confidence the next time you need to take a medication (the regulation is INSANE), but it bums me out to no end.

I hate ballpoint pens for that reason, and prefer the rollerball pens. Like you, my handwriting takes a hit because ballpoint pens skip and just don't "flow" right for me.

I also had the problem of being required to use ballpoint pens while working for the Red Cross during my short time there. They required ballpoint for the purpose of indelible ink to avoid smearing, and you also had to cross out and properly document the change in forms.
 

Boogie9IGN

Member
I love your pen threads. Going to order that red s20 (even though I definitely like rollerballs more) to go along with the Pilot Metro I'm getting for class based off your other thread.

The only problem I have is as much as I love having new pens and journals I can never figure out wtf to write (nothing seems worthy enough) so I end up having a bunch of unused supplies lol
 
I always love seeing these threads, always great to see someone who really cares and knows about the history of things that they like.

I really hate ballpoints. Will always be a fountain pen man.
 

mf.luder

Member
I love your threads bagels. You're very passionate and it makes for a wonderful read.

I might skip over the pen 15 one though.
 
nice. tell me how the pilot just meet buying goes. I picked up the mechanical version off your recommendation and it's nice. Been using the zebra pens mainly for right now
 
I find the Bic Cristals to be incredibly uncomfortable to write with for a long period of time. They are basically the only thing my office seems to supply. If I ever want to mix it up from my G2, I'll be coming back here!
 
This thread is some good timing as I need a new pen for school and I don't want cheap crap, and there's some good recommendations in here.

Though in general I hate using pens and only use them because i have to. Mechanical pencils for life.
 
Cool thread.

One thing to note OP is that the older Parker Jotters are superior to the current incarnation.

Also, might I suggest the addition of the Caran D'Ache 849 to the OP. A well regarded "cheap" ballpoint. I use one as my everyday writer.
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Deleted member 22576

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A really cool ballpoint is the Koh-Ih-Noor Nexux Roller.

The feel is a bit scratchy, to be honest but they have a large capacity resevoir and the graphite color is to die for. The colors are hard to find in my experience.
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
I personally always prefered the Pilot G2 gel ballpoints:


Always like the smooth writing action on these and they're ubiquitous enough that you can find them in any supermarket.

That's a rollerball, unfortunately. The G2 was my go-to for years, but I stopped using them when I got into fountain pens.

Send that lactose cure my way.

In the meantime, I'll peruse your ball-point pen suggestions, scoff, and wonder off to buy a new fountain pen to replace my Safari (lost, apparently in a safari).

If you can find a deal on a Lamy2000, it will change your life!

I hate ballpoint pens for that reason, and prefer the rollerball pens. Like you, my handwriting takes a hit because ballpoint pens skip and just don't "flow" right for me.

I also had the problem of being required to use ballpoint pens while working for the Red Cross during my short time there. They required ballpoint for the purpose of indelible ink to avoid smearing, and you also had to cross out and properly document the change in forms.

I had a spreadsheet with some issues (it was my first spreadsheet included with my paperwork) and I hit 8 corrections. That's my current record. I had been doing so well, too!


I love your pen threads. Going to order that red s20 (even though I definitely like rollerballs more) to go along with the Pilot Metro I'm getting for class based off your other thread.

The only problem I have is as much as I love having new pens and journals I can never figure out wtf to write (nothing seems worthy enough) so I end up having a bunch of unused supplies lol

The red S20 is one of my favorite pens. The shape is amazing! I *think* it comes with a fine-size cartridge. Upgrade to the medium (I'll figure out the item number), and the S20 will compete with your rollerballs any day of the week. It really is that good!

I carry around pens and notebooks to encourage me to write more. I can make a post on uses for all of the supplies you accumulate :)


I always love seeing these threads, always great to see someone who really cares and knows about the history of things that they like.

I really hate ballpoints. Will always be a fountain pen man.

I have a ton of fun making these threads. I had been sitting on this one forever, so it is less dense with jokes and trivia than usual. I'm hoping to focus more on actual recommendations for ballpoints people can live with.

At work, I still find every excuse possible to use my fountain pens. Meeting notes, my general weekly plan/"guest book" (people find my A3 Rhodia pad irresistible for doodles and random notes), my daily journal, notes to colleagues...

Again, if you get just ONE ballpoint, get a Pilot S20 with the medium insert. You'll love everything about it.

I love your threads bagels. You're very passionate and it makes for a wonderful read.

I might skip over the pen 15 one though.

My not-so-secret belief is that you can make anything interesting. It helps when it's something people use every day and take for granted.

nice. tell me how the pilot just meet buying goes. I picked up the mechanical version off your recommendation and it's nice. Been using the zebra pens mainly for right now

The Justmeet is probably one of my top 3 writing tools. I have really high hopes for the pen. If it works out, i'll stockpile them to give out to people who do me favors at work. I gave away an S20 and my coworker guards it with her life.

Cool thread.

One thing to note OP is that the older Parker Jotters are superior to the current incarnation.

Also, might I suggest the addition of the Caran D'Ache 849 to the OP. A well regarded "cheap" ballpoint. I use one as my everyday writer.
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I had heard this about the Parker Jotters! I might try to ebay an older one.

I have a pencil version of that Caran D'Ache! I'll add a pen to my growing list of ballpoint to try. Thanks!
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
There is apparently a way to hack a Mont Blanc BP refill into a Pilot G2 or, even better, a Pilot Metropolitan rollerball. I'll try it tonight and repoŕt back!
 
I had heard this about the Parker Jotters! I might try to ebay an older one.

I have a pencil version of that Cara D'Ache! I'll add a pen to my growing list of ballpoint to try. Thanks!

The 849 is great. I own three but unfortunately one took a dive off a desk and will no longer click.

All these nice pens don't make the office notepad paper I write on any better though.

I've been eyeing the pencils for a while but I'm also eyeing a Lamy Safari and have a few other higher end fountain pens too. Budgets and all that.
 

DJ_Lae

Member
I generally hate ballpoint pens (especially those Bic ones made out of the same horrendous cracking plastic as jewel cases) and usually write with mechanical pencils, or fountain pens when I'm feeling fancy.

Here's a shitty picture of my two current cheap favourites, however - they're so good that I actually bought boxes as backups for when they run out or (more likely) get lost.

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Uniball 207, which I have in a neat ink that's mostly black with a hint of purple, and the fat-ass POWER TANK that both writes in any direction and seems to handle -30C temperatures in my car just fine. Both flow pretty nice, too, and aren't scratchy, which is usually the problem I have with ballpoints.
 

Acrylic7

Member
Ehh ballpoins pens -_- But ahh well I collect some of them as well.
I usually just stick with the Papermate Inkjoy 700rt or super cheap bic Crystals.

Now on to the superior Rollerball. My favorite is the Pilot Hi-Tec-C.

Deceivingly ordinary pen is not ordinary. It is a lie. An Angel among men.
A youngin aint never seen lines so clean and tight. The best pen to use for art.
In America Its called something else like G-Tec-c3 or something.
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Deceivingly ordinary.
 
I generally hate ballpoint pens (especially those Bic ones made out of the same horrendous cracking plastic as jewel cases)

Funny enough, I love those pens. My grandfather (who was a big fountain pen enthusiast) kept several blue bic crystals in a cup next to his phone for jotting down messages. I have some great childhood memories of scribbling with the bic pens while watching him flush and refill his fountain pens on Saturday mornings. He passed away years ago. I'm sure the pens are horrible, as I haven't used one in years, but seeing them always takes me back and makes me smile.

Also if you take the ink cartridge out, heat the end with a lighter, and then mold it around a Nintendo security screw they can be repurposed as a a screwdriver to open the SNES, N64, and Gamecube.
 

Oxirane

Member
I prefer Jetstream refills and have spent far too much money (mainly on Kickstarter) on random pen bodies. However pretty much all I end up using at work or home are Jetstream 3-in-1 multipens.

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Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
I'll keep saying it, but if you have seen my pencil and fountain pen threads, you know I view ballpoint pens with something like complete disdain.

The Pilot S20 made me a believer. It comes with a BRFN-10F refill, which is marked as 0.7mm. It's nice if you like a thinner line. For true silky-smoothness, you want to swap in a Pilot Dr. Grip Center of Gravity Ballpoint Pen Refill - 1.0 mm Medium Point. You can actually find these at big-box office supply stores (though generally only in black). Jetpens carries all the refills for the S20, including red ink! Here are the 1.0 center of gravity refills in blue - my recommendation.

I love love love this pen! I get a ton of comments on it. Even at the Jetpens price of $33, I think you're getting a good deal, and it's the one ballpoint pen I'd place in the same tier as my my favorite fountain pens and mechanical pencils. This thing will make you believe that true love can exist between a sophisticated pen enthusiast and a ballpoint pen.

I cannot wait to compare to the Just Meet Smart! It took some looking around, but the refills for this pen is BSRF-6F- (B · R · L · G) [B- black, R - Red, L -Blue, G-Green]. 6F is the 0.7mm "fine" tip. A 6M, 1.0mm "medium" tip *should* work just fine, and that's probably the size I want. I'll see if it fits and let you all know. The Pilot S20 vs. Pilot Just Meet Smart could very well be the ballpoint pen battle of the century! I can tell you are all just as excited as I am!
 

Alucrid

Banned
i pretty much only use papermate inkjoys, but the 300 RT. looks like the 700 RT is just the luxury model. maybe i'll splurge next time i need pens
 

stryke

Member
I generally hate ballpoint pens (especially those Bic ones made out of the same horrendous cracking plastic as jewel cases) and usually write with mechanical pencils, or fountain pens when I'm feeling fancy.

Here's a shitty picture of my two current cheap favourites, however - they're so good that I actually bought boxes as backups for when they run out or (more likely) get lost.

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Uniball 207, which I have in a neat ink that's mostly black with a hint of purple, and the fat-ass POWER TANK that both writes in any direction and seems to handle -30C temperatures in my car just fine. Both flow pretty nice, too, and aren't scratchy, which is usually the problem I have with ballpoints.

I love using the Powertank but I prefer the 0.7 size.
 

Leynos

Member
That Pilot S20 looks lovely, but how would it fare as a pocket pen? Should I stick to the Fisher Space Pen if I want a decent pen that is always on my person?
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
That Pilot S20 looks lovely, but how would it fare as a pocket pen? Should I stick to the Fisher Space Pen if I want a decent pen that is always on my person?

The tip retracts and it has done well as a pocket pen for me. Over time, you could end up scratching away the surface finish, though. The Fisher Space Pen, specifically the model I showed in the OP, is probably the ultimate pocket pen. They close up to a nice, tiny, protected capsule, they write beautifully, and they will come in handy if you ever accidentally end up in space.

I just want more people to pick up Pilot S20s. It's an unbelievable value at $20 from Amazon. They look good in photos; they look *amazing* in person. The way they have sculpted the body is just so beautiful. If you have the occasional need for a ballpoint, it will put a smile on your face every time you use it. I'm trying to plan ahead and stock up on S20s with the larger ink cartridges to give as gifts to people I know who have to write a lot (so basically all of my coworkers). The person I gave one to a week or so back gets all sorts of compliments on it. She was worried I had spent way too much on it. :)

Get yourself a Fisher Space Pen, but also snag an S20 to give as a unique gift. It really looks like something that set you back a pretty penny. If my Justmeet ever arrives, I'll post all about it, too. The mechanical pencil versions I have given out basically got the same huge reaction every time. It became each recipients' go-to pencil. As an added bonus, after being given a really cool pen or pencil, people seem to understand a little more why I'm so into my writing gear. :D
 

A Fish Aficionado

I am going to make it through this year if it kills me
Today, you can spend pennies on a ballpoint pen or spend a fortune and get some piece of shit writing implement that nonetheless says “FERRARI” on the side.


(This pen is only about $30, but that makes no sense to me, what with the Ferrari branding...)

"It's a Ferrari!"

It's a shitbox"

You need to see Rush
 
Somewhere, I have one of those NASA space pens and thanks to this thread, it's going to drive me crazy trying to find it again.

And then the extra-fine Pilot V5 rolling ball has been my favorite pen to use for about fifteen years (though, rollerball, not ballpoint). Everything feels more sciency when written with one of those, not to mention them being extremely thin and light and coming in every color of the rainbow.

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Lately though, I tend to write almost exclusively with extra-fine Sharpies.
 

nampad

Member
I think I have never bought a pen. I either used advertising gifts (my sister had a lot of pharmaceutical ones) or what my company provides.
 

Monocle

Member
Ehh ballpoins pens -_- But ahh well I collect some of them as well.
I usually just stick with the Papermate Inkjoy 700rt or super cheap bic Crystals.

Now on to the superior Rollerball. My favorite is the Pilot Hi-Tec-C.

Deceivingly ordinary pen is not ordinary. It is a lie. An Angel among men.
A youngin aint never seen lines so clean and tight. The best pen to use for art.
In America Its called something else like G-Tec-c3 or something.
hi-tec-c-04-black.jpg

Deceivingly ordinary.
This one is magical. A favorite of industrial designers who need clean smooth lines for concept sketches. (Scott Robertson swears by them.)

Also, needless to say, a dreamy everyday writing pen.
 
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Deleted member 1235

Unconfirmed Member
I personally always prefered the Pilot G2 gel ballpoints:


Always like the smooth writing action on these and they're ubiquitous enough that you can find them in any supermarket.

we have these in the office and a bunch of other shitpens. I always immediately grab these.
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
If you've seen my mechanical pencil thread, you'll know that I consider the Pilot JustMeet the world's greatest pencil. The ballpoint version is everything I had hoped for. I am in love.

I also found how to fit a Mont Blanc ballpoint refill into a Pilot Metropolitan rollerball body. It is niiiiiice.

Pics and links later when I'm not on mobile. These are both now top choices if you want/need a ballpoint.
 
I recently switched up my random promo pen to a BIC crystal (also trying their Chrome Platinum double edged razor blades). I dislike the way they can build up gloop around the ball and how they're disposable.

Might spring for something where I can replace the cartridges some day just because it's less plastic wasted. I don't really write a lot at home or on the go, and at my work place a good pen would be stolen quickly so it's hard to justify spending more. Does anyone rate the Muji pens?
 

neojubei

Will drop pants for Sony.
I hate ballpoint pens they are plague on humanty. That said I love gel pens and rollerball pens. Jetpens has a lot of good gel pens
 

Accoun

Member
If you've seen my mechanical pencil thread, you'll know that I consider the Pilot JustMeet the world's greatest pencil. The ballpoint version is everything I had hoped for. I am in love.

From the photos I like the S20 more, but looks like the JustMeet is cheaper, which is nice. Both seem wonderful, tho. And I guess the style of the JustMeet fits a pen more than a pencil - according to my sensibilities at least.
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
I recently switched up my random promo pen to a BIC crystal (also trying their Chrome Platinum double edged razor blades). I dislike the way they can build up gloop around the ball and how they're disposable.

Might spring for something where I can replace the cartridges some day just because it's less plastic wasted. I don't really write a lot at home or on the go, and at my work place a good pen would be stolen quickly so it's hard to justify spending more. Does anyone rate the Muji pens?

I keep meaning to grab some Muji pens! I hear so many good things.
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
From the photos I like the S20 more, but looks like the JustMeet is cheaper, which is nice. Both seem wonderful, tho. And I guess the style of the JustMeet fits a pen more than a pencil - according to my sensibilities at least.

It's a real battle for my heart and soul. The S20 is *gorgeous*! Do the Amazon reseller route - $20 well spent!
 

Bagels

You got Moxie, kid!
My Pilot Cocoon arrived today! It really is basically a ballpoint version of the Pilot Metropolitan. The cap twists to retract the tip, but that's about the only difference. I quite like it. The blue is a tad less striking in person, unfortunately. On the other hand, the free laser engraving looks great, and I even entered it in the correct box on the order form!

Pics when I get the chance!
 
My Pilot Cocoon arrived today! It really is basically a ballpoint version of the Pilot Metropolitan. The cap twists to retract the tip, but that's about the only difference. I quite like it. The blue is a tad less striking in person, unfortunately. On the other hand, the free laser engraving looks great, and I even entered it in the correct box on the order form!

Pics when I get the chance!
Any update on this? I'm interested in pen this too. Would love to see some real world pics.
 

TheSeks

Blinded by the luminous glory that is David Bowie's physical manifestation.
The Pilot G2 is a popular rollerball pen.

Guess I'm into rollerballs then. Because that hexagonal Bic pen you posted about later in the OP is what I had to use in high-school and I hated those pens. I don't think I've ever used a ballpoint that feels as "smooth" to write with as the G2 Pilot.
 
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