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Beastie Boys Take on the Colonel!

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Jr.

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The Beastie Boys have always had a lot to say about everything from partying and girls to politics, social causes, and the city that they love (NYC, of course). You name it, they’ve covered it without bowing to censorship, so it should come as no surprise that they have decided to speak out against KFC to defend the rights of chickens.

The rest is here....

I think this is great, and I hope more celebrities get the word out on this. It is sick that this stuff is allowed to happen. Hopefully it will grow so large that KFC is forced to do something about it.

Oh and for those who dont know what this is about, you can watch a video Here
 

Tuvoc

Member
I was gonna say something funny about Colonel Sanders not knowing that it was actually about the Colonel....

hmph...
 

Jr.

Banned
Fresh Prince said:
People care about chickens?
I forgot Chickens > People
Um yeah!

You are missing the point! What is the point of abusing these animals, they are sentient beings that feel pain. This has nothing to do with the welfare of people.
 

Jak140

Member
Too bad it's with PETA. It would be a lot easier to take PETA seriously if they wasn't comprised of a bunch of douche bags willing to sink to any level trying to get their point across.
 

Jr.

Banned
Willco said:
They're friggin' chickens. They'd walk right into the frying pan if we led them with seed.

I'm sure they would, but they would also get right out as soon as it started to hurt.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
Jr. said:
I'm sure they would, but they would also get right out as soon as it started to hurt.

Who cares. They're going to get eaten. You know what hurts? Getting your head chopped off. But that's the end game for chickens, guy.

And you can't do anything about that unless you want to stop eating chickens.
 

Jr.

Banned
Willco said:
Who cares. They're going to get eaten. You know what hurts? Getting your head chopped off. But that's the end game for chickens, guy.

And you can't do anything about that unless you want to stop eating chickens.

Do they need to still be alive when they do it? What is the cost going to be raised to at least but them to sleep? im sure there are a few different methods out there that could be taken insteead of what is done, and the Fat Ass consumer wouldn't have to pay more than a few pennies more for their bucket of lard ass.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Willco said:
Who cares. They're going to get eaten. You know what hurts? Getting your head chopped off. But that's the end game for chickens, guy.

And you can't do anything about that unless you want to stop eating chickens.

He may be a vegan.

Jr. said:
Do they need to still be alive when they do it? What is the cost going to be raised to at least but them to sleep? im sure there are a few different methods out there that could be taken insteead of what is done, and the Fat Ass consumer wouldn't have to pay more than a few pennies more for their bucket of lard ass.

You know, this is the same problem I have with those vegetarians who yell at people eating a burger because they are harming a living being by eating its meat.

Here's a reality check. Chickens and cows are bread to be eaten. The whole reason they have beef farms and chicken farms is to produce cows and chickens to be slaughtered and eaten by people. Their life meaning is to hatch out of an egg, be fed until they are nice and fat, and then get their head chopped off to end up on a dinner plate. They aren't meant to cure cancer, they are meant for food.
 

Soul4ger

Member
I know exactly zero people that care about what the Beastie Boys think. Zero. Not that this is a bad cause, mind you. I agree with them. But I agreed with them before they said anything. And, I reckon, if I didn't agree, them suddenly deciding to speak out against it wouldn't change my mind. You say you wish more celebrities would follow suit? I say, I wish celebrities would realize that WE DON'T CARE WHAT THEY THINK.
 

White Man

Member
<listens to Car Thief>

Remember when the Beastie Boys were, you know, fun. I miss the good ol' days. Can't they at least pick a worthy, Bono-esque cause?

EDIT:

Car Thief said:
I'm a writer a poet a genius I know it
I don't buy cheeba
I grow it

Oh man, I forgot how awesome this song is.
 

Jr.

Banned
ManaByte said:
Here's a reality check. Chickens and cows are bread to be eaten. The whole reason they have beef farms and chicken farms is to produce cows and chickens to be slaughtered and eaten by people. Their life meaning is to hatch out of an egg, be fed until they are nice and fat, and then get their head chopped off to end up on a dinner plate. They aren't meant to cure cancer, they are meant for food.

You know, I was goning to write out some long thoughtout response, and then I saw your avitar....

Also, did you watch the video?

Whats the point, I mean why clip off their beaks?

Why skin them while they are still alive?

Why allow your workers to kick them?

You are an Ass, is the only answer I can come up with.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Jr. said:
You know, I was goning to write out some long thoughtout response, and then I saw your avitar....

Also, did you watch the video?

Whats the point, I mean why clip off their beaks?

Why skin them while they are still alive?

Why allow your workers to kick them?

You are an Ass, is the only answer I can come up with.

This isn't like they are abusing a household pet like a dog or cat. They are slaughtering a food product to produce food.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
I think next month PETA will tell us fishing with hooks is wrong and that we should catch fish with love and magical fairy dust.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
Willco said:
I think next month PETA will tell us fishing with hooks is wrong and that we should catch fish with love and magical fairy dust.

No, fishing is wrong period because the fish can't breath out of the water and you are torturing them! :lol

Guess they never heard of a live well on the boat before.
 

Teddman

Member
During live shows, Ad-Rock used to replace the following line in "Time to Get Ill":

"I'm the King Adrock and I'm the king of all kings!"

with:

"I'm the King Adrock, I eat the Colonel's wings!"

He's done that for years, though I imagine he won't any more! Check out a copy of the Root Down EP, you can hear him say it in the live version of "Time to Get Ill."
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
:lol

... I've been browsing PETA's website. What a bunch of whack jobs. I guess that South Park episode wasn't that far off the mark. If you want a good laugh, check out their homepage.
 

Teddman

Member
"My pistol is loaded - I shot Betty Crocker
Deliver Colonel Sanders down to Davey Jones' locker!"
-"Rhymin' and Stealin"
 
ManaByte said:
Here's a reality check. Chickens and cows are bread to be eaten. The whole reason they have beef farms and chicken farms is to produce cows and chickens to be slaughtered and eaten by people. Their life meaning is to hatch out of an egg, be fed until they are nice and fat, and then get their head chopped off to end up on a dinner plate. They aren't meant to cure cancer, they are meant for food.

Some day aliens will do the same to humans... or maybe not... the point is that we should respect animals.
 
Teddman said:
During live shows, Ad-Rock used to replace the following line in "Time to Get Ill":

"I'm the King Adrock and I'm the king of all kings!"

with:

"I'm the King Adrock, I eat the Colonel's wings!"
Man I hate it when you get a 15 pack and like 5 of them are wings. Geesus I don't want them all breastes but atleast give us what we're paying you for.
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
RonaldoSan said:
Some day aliens will do the same to humans... or maybe not... the point is that we should respect animals.

Ok, lets outlaw chicken and beef farms so EVERYONE on the planet can starve to death since it's so cruel to breed chickens and cows to eat. Seriously, some people will have a heart attack and die on the spot if they ever saw a cattle slaughter house.
 

masud

Banned
The chicken species as it exists today would not be around it wasn’t for man. They are ours to do with as we please.
 

aku:jiki

Member
ManaByte said:
Ok, lets outlaw chicken and beef farms so EVERYONE on the planet can starve to death since it's so cruel to breed chickens and cows to eat. Seriously, some people will have a heart attack and die on the spot if they ever saw a cattle slaughter house.
What this post is missing is some more exaggeration.

Plain words: So the world starves to death without KFC? Fuck me, I wonder how most of Europe has survived so long without it...
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
aku:jiki said:
What this post is missing is some more exaggeration.

Plain words: So the world starves to death without KFC? Fuck me, I wonder how most of Europe has survived so long without it...

My point is that chickens and cows are always slaughtered for food and PETA is picking on KFC because they are part of a big corp and it's easy to get publicity for your cause by picking on a big name. If PETA was going after Joe's Chicken Shack for slaughtering chickens, they wouldn't be getting this much attention.
 
ManaByte said:
Ok, lets outlaw chicken and beef farms so EVERYONE on the planet can starve to death since it's so cruel to breed chickens and cows to eat. Seriously, some people will have a heart attack and die on the spot if they ever saw a cattle slaughter house.
I never said anything like that. I said respect the animals. You don't have to kill the animals by molesting them. Run your business properly. Human death sentences doesn't get carried out with baseball bats right?


aku:jiki said:
Plain words: So the world starves to death without KFC? Fuck me, I wonder how most of Europe has survived so long without it...
Not to mess up your point or nothing, but we surely do have KFC :)
 
Willco said:
They're friggin' chickens. They'd walk right into the frying pan if we led them with seed.


just cause they are dumb doesnt mean they deserve to be tortured.....i mean cmon you voted for bush!
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
RonaldoSan said:
I never said anything like that. I said respect the animals. You don't have to kill the animals by molesting them. Run your business properly. Human death sentences doesn't get carried out with baseball bats right?

Human death sentences =/= slaughtering chickens and cows for food. Honestly, have you ever been to a cattle slaughter house?
 

Great King Bowser

Property of Kaz Harai
Seriously now, I don't understand how someone can pull the "they're food so they have no rights" card.

Yes, they are food. But is it necesarry to torture them before they're killed? No, no it's not.

Kill them quickly and humanely, anything else is unnecesarry.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
What is the point of giving something "rights" that you're going to kill and devour anyway?

Really.
 

Great King Bowser

Property of Kaz Harai
Willco said:
What is the point of giving something "rights" that you're going to kill and devour anyway?

Really.

So it doesn't have to endure unnecesarry pain and suffering?

I'm sure cutting off their beaks, kicking them round a bit and the finally slitting their throats takes a lot more effort than just killing them.
 

aku:jiki

Member
ManaByte said:
My point is that chickens and cows are always slaughtered for food and PETA is picking on KFC because they are part of a big corp and it's easy to get publicity for your cause by picking on a big name. If PETA was going after Joe's Chicken Shack for slaughtering chickens, they wouldn't be getting this much attention.
But that's just a question of scale. Even if Joe's Chicken Shack is being as vile as KFC in their treatment of the products, it's nothing compared to the sheer size of KFC's operation. What would be the use of going after the small fish first?

And, by the way... Do you get a craving for some deep fried wings when you watch that video? Seriously, I'd like to think that what I stick in my mouth is treated better than that. Not for animal-loving reasons, just for my damn self.

RonaldoSan said:
Not to mess up your point or nothing, but we surely do have KFC
And not to mess up yours, but I'm swedish.

(Now that I think about, maybe we have one or two KFC's, I dunno... Far from what you'd call established, though.)
 
Most people who claim to support PETA have never been to the site and don't know what they really stand for. If they did, I doubt anyone would give them the time of day. But you know folks: if a stupid celeb says something is true, then it just HAS to be, right?
 

ManaByte

Gold Member
FortNinety said:
Most people who claim to support PETA have never been to the site and don't know what they really stand for. If they did, I doubt anyone would give them the time of day. But you know folks: if a stupid celeb says something is true, then it just HAS to be, right?

PETA are total nut jobs. They make good organizations that are grounded in reality such as the World Wildlife Fund or the The Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals look bad as too many people associate the actions of PETA with them.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
You guys just believe whatever the hell PETA shows you because you're a bunch of veggie-eating whimps. You want the truth?

1. KFC doesn't even cut off the beaks and the footage shown is outdated, in addition to a single vendor that probably isn't even used by KFC anymore. To clarify:

"PETA is attempting to mislead the public with an outdated and questionable video on chicken production … The system shown is no longer in use in our industry … Only the sharp tip of the beak is removed (on some male birds to prevent injury to other birds), not the large portion as shown in the outdated PETA video. Precision laser technology is rapidly replacing blade systems."

2. Oh no, a couple of workers kicked some chicken around! Surely this must mean all the workers and vendors do this!

Veggie-Eating Whimp: I believe in gross generalizations that are force fed to me by an organization run by psychos!

3. KFC has already bowed to pressure by PETA by letting them control what they say about their chicken killing machine of awesomness. They've also setup a bunch of guidelines for processing the chickens with PETA last year. Why the fuck are we still talking about this?

They're installing cameras in all 29 of their slaughterhouses and doing the following:

KFC also agreed 1) to ensure that its suppliers would add stimulation devices to the perches in the chicken sheds; 2) to move quickly to kill chickens in electric stun baths rather than merely immobilizing them; 3) to implement humane mechanized chicken-gathering systems; and 4) to provide increased space for chicken housing. KFC promised to report back to PETA on a regular basis to verify its compliance.

... Again, what the fuck are you guys still complaining about? That's a lot better than how I'd treat my fucking food.

... and the finally slitting their throats takes a lot more effort than just killing them.

You do know that they have to do this so we - mmmm! - eat them, right?

And you guys think PETA rules, huh? Here's a nice quote from Bruce Friedrich, the guy who is coordinating this PR war against KFC:

“It would be great,” Friedrich told a crowd of animal rights activists in 2001, “if all the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories and the banks who fund them exploded tomorrow … Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do it.”

Topic closed. Fuck the Beastie Boys.
 

aku:jiki

Member
FortNinety said:
Most people who claim to support PETA have never been to the site and don't know what they really stand for. If they did, I doubt anyone would give them the time of day. But you know folks: if a stupid celeb says something is true, then it just HAS to be, right?
Why should it matter if the cause is good? I'm sure they mean well and all that.

Personally, I don't get the apathy. I mean, I love me some meat...but why can't we just let the animals kick it and get fat and then kill them and eat them? Why do they have to kick them around and chop off their beaks and other random, weird shit we see in these kinds of videos? Like the dudes forcefully throwing the chickens into that container in this video. It would've taken a couple of nanoseconds more effort to at least tuck them in a little more nicely, not just tossing them headfirst into a metal wall.

Not saying they have to wrap them in cotton and hire a personal carrier for each of them, but some things are just demented.

Willco: Oh, come on. That post has to be a joke, right? You're saying people are stupid for blindly believing what PETA says, and you go on to prove your point by...blindly believing what KFC says?
 

SteveMeister

Hang out with Steve.
Meh, Howard Jones sang about animal rights in the 80's. This isn't anything new.

Assault and Battery
The lives were taken
For feasts at the table
A life of misery
Ending with a shock

Brutal murder (brutal murder)
All hands to the slaughter
Mass torture
All hands to the knife

And I can hear the screams
With the knife, the jolt, the wring
They must follow in our dreams
Carrying a twisted sting

Children's stories with their farmyard favourites
At the table in a different disguise

Don't talk to me of health
Or something someone else will do
We're talking about the act
Of taking life for me and you
And I hear their screams
 
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