Ben Carson states that low income housing is too posh.

Time for poor camps. Why build housing projects when you can stack beds in warehouses, maximizing space and forcing the welfare recipients to look for something better? Ayyy
 
I know black people isn't a guy but I wish he was so I could ask black people what he thinks of Ben Carson who ironically exists (in his new job) as a kind of evil twist on affirmative action.
 
Going by the "poor" housing in a lot of towns we do rehabilitation in....no...no they aren't posh.

Many of them should be condemned/closed for safety.

One thing that does anger me though is the bad eggs that give the good ones a bad name. I see a lot of both.
 
Municipalities should be constantly building low cost (to produce) housing, rented at market rate to bring down market rent prices.

The problem is most municipalities are not capable of low cost construction (employment centers), and most voters do not want additional neighbors.
 
shandy706 said:
Going by the "poor" housing in a lot of towns we do rehabilitation in....no...no they aren't posh.

Many of them should be condemned/closed for safety.
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Thats what I was thinking.

I mean I understand the idea that money should NOT be going to TV's, feather beds, crown molding, granet counter tops or fireplaces. Builders should be building these houses to code, at the cheapest price they can, with the cheapest materials they can (Approved, safe matterials). It absolutely should be about quantity and not quality. These should also be built on the lowest value land. They should not be an extended life long residence for most people, rather a place to survive, regroup and have shelter.

But many of the places I have seen (like in West Dallas) are just in shambles and need to be torn down (their was actually a NPR report today about a $400/month housing area in West Dallas that IS being torn down because it has so many safety issues, and the current tenants are all being evicted (with 7 months notice) but most of them dont know where they can go because there is no other housing available at that price).
 
Damaniel said:
Oh come on - there's no way they'd do that.

They'd just toss them off a cliff instead in order to save the cost of running the furnaces...
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The furnaces will burn. The owners of them will receive a tax break, legislative input to ensure the constant flow of filthy proles to incinerate and to top it off a subsidy provided by the government.

The only welfare that is acceptable is corporate welfare.
 
I love the part where Carson says Trump's planned 13% cut of HUD's budget won't really be a cut. "HUD programs targeted for elimination ... may wind up with different names".

That doesn't even mean anything. I know people who work at non-profits that rely on government assistance, and it's difficult enough in the best of times. I can only imagine the horror of an administration taking over that thinks helping people is bad.
 
I've got mine fuck you.

This makes me wonder if he does surgery in a hospital that accepts medicare/medicaid...
 
Reminds me of that Wooley character from the beginning of the original Dawn of the Dead. "Why do we stick them in these fancy hotels anyway? Shit man, that's better than I got!"

...except Carson has it much much better.
 
So he basically just wants low income housing to be more livable than the street but not so livable that the average person could stay there? That's pretty fucked up.
 
This is why the section 8 housing voucher is in such high demand. In my state (Ma) the waiting list is almost a decade long. In the meantime you end up in a homeless shelter, while waiting for local town's public housing.
 
shnurgleton said:
because the poors don't deserve dignity
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Is it possible to evalute the quality and expense of government provided housing for ablr bodied individuals without jumping to conclusions that thry just want to throw them all in a furnace?

Is it reasonable that costs and standards for such housing for able bodied capable of work individuals should meet only basic needs to avoid homelessness?

Is it possible that by doing so accomodations could be provided for more persons and better serve those who are not able to work?

This is kind of a nuanced and complicated topic for such a post.
 
Compassion, Mr. Carson explained in an interview, means not giving people “a comfortable setting that would make somebody want to say: ‘I’ll just stay here. They will take care of me.’”

Fucking Republicans.

“If he got something to do with Trump, that means he’s not really for us,” Mr. Williams said. “It’s not surprising. That’s what the rich do, they make it hard for the poor.”

Yup
 
Why should the government be responsible for housing poor people?

Obviously they made poor life choices that made them become poor in the first place.

Boot. Straps.
 
They're all for putting more money into the VA, but where are they supposed to live after they are discharged from the hospital?
 
FYI, this is Ben Carson's house:

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Wilsongt said:
Why should the government be responsible for housing poor people?

Obviously they made poor life choices that made them become poor in the first place.

Boot. Straps.
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I can't believe I've never seen a .gif of Yzma saying "They really should have thought of that before they became peasants" from The Emperor's New Groove. Describes the GOP to a tee.
 
Reminder that there are those in the US who think poor people don't deserve refrigerators and AC in low income housing. The reasoning is that poor people in other countries don't have those things, so why should they have them here? (This is a real statement I've heard with my own ears)
 
7DollarHagane said:
Is it possible to evalute the quality and expense of government provided housing for ablr bodied individuals without jumping to conclusions that thry just want to throw them all in a furnace?

Is it reasonable that costs and standards for such housing for able bodied capable of work individuals should meet only basic needs to avoid homelessness?

Is it possible that by doing so accomodations could be provided for more persons and better serve those who are not able to work?

This is kind of a nuanced and complicated topic for such a post.
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Tell me what part of the republican platform over the last 40 years leads you to believe that they are capable of the kind of nuance you think is part of their policy?

They drug test the poor even though it costs more to run that program than it saved, they try removing the ability to use cash as part of the food stamp program and deprive them of any dignity by forcing them to shop in designated poor shops. Every single action they take is designed to degrade and humiliate they poor. There is not even a whiff of the slightly less disgusting deserving/undeserving poor distinction and simply straight up contempt. To Republicans poverty a moral failing brought on themselves and as such they deserve fucking nothing.
 
Stinkles said:
I know black people isn't a guy but I wish he was so I could ask black people what he thinks of Ben Carson who ironically exists (in his new job) as a kind of evil twist on affirmative action.
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Ben's a punk who took the 'designated black position' when Trump could have easily made him surgeon general or something.
 
His idea is right that people shouldn't be too comfortable that they will stay and think that they will be taken care of forever, however what his idea of bare minimum is belongs in the 1950's. So close, yet so far.

Ben carson's own home.

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Sou Da said:
Ben's a punk who took the 'designated black position' when Trump could have easily made him surgeon general or something.
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Yeah like he was sort of qualified for that role. But insurance companies need a true believer I guess.
 
Things poor people don't need:
- refrigerator
- access to broadcast tv
- access to the internet
- access to a phone
- personal space
- hot water
- electricity
- four walls and a roof
- clean water
 
I Stalk Alone said:
His idea is right that people shouldn't be too comfortable that they will stay and think that they will be taken care of forever, however what his idea of bare minimum is belongs in the 1950's. So close, yet so far.
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Is that true though? Are there any studies to back it up? I've looked but haven't found any. And besides... how do you define "too comfortable"? Some would say that a computer and broadband internet is a luxury, but good luck getting a job or attending online classes without one. Is it because a tv is arbitrarily too big? Is the sofa too soft? Is it the presence of any form of entertainment? Because numerous studies have found that hobbies can help keep people away from drugs and crime. What is an acceptable or reasonable entertainment device in low income housing?

And it bears repeating: Getting out of poverty is not simply a matter of motivation.
 
the poor and regular working folk really should be more active in the class war thats being waged against them.

why are there only nutbag right-wing militias in the USA? guns are legal, why don't left-wing pro-labor people arm themselves and organize? it could provide some useful intimidation.

it's quite weird how poor people just take endless amounts of abuse.
 
NandoGip said:
Will anyone be surprised when they announce that their new strategy of ending poverty is by just throwing all the poors in a furnace?
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Until automation replaces everything, they still need the poor worked underpaid for 60 hours a week. They don't want them dead, just miserable.
 
daveo42 said:
Things poor people don't need:
- refrigerator
- access to broadcast tv
- access to the internet
- access to a phone
- personal space
- hot water
- electricity
- four walls and a roof
- clean water
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Food that isn't greasy slop off the dollar menu.
 
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