Best Korea thinks they can hit the USA

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http://news.yahoo.com/north-korea-says-rockets-hit-u-mainland-192415998.html

North Korea has rockets that can hit the U.S. mainland, it said on Tuesday, two days after South Korea struck a deal with the United States to extend the range of its ballistic missiles.

North and South Korea have been technically at war since their 1950-53 conflict ended in a truce, not a peace treaty, and regional powers have for years been trying to rein in North Korea's nuclear weapons program.

Reclusive North Korea is believed to be developing a long-range missile with a range of 6,700 km (4,160) miles) or more aimed at hitting the United States, but two recent rocket tests failed.

Its neighbors fear North Korea is using rocket launches to perfect technology to build a missile capable of delivering a nuclear warhead to the United States.

North Korea's National Defence Commission said in a statement that the country was prepared to counter any U.S. military threats, its KCNA news agency said.

"We do not hide (the fact) that the revolutionary armed forces ... including the strategic rocket forces are keeping within the scope of strike not only the bases of the puppet forces and the U.S. imperialist aggression forces' bases in the inviolable land of Korea, but also Japan, Guam and the U.S. mainland," KCNA said.

The U.S. State Department declined to discuss whether it believed North Korea's new claims on missile range, saying this was an intelligence issue. But it noted that North Korea is bound by U.N. Security Council resolutions to suspend all activities related to ballistic missile programs.

"Certainly rather than bragging about its missile capability, they ought to be feeding their own people," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said, adding that "threats or provocations" by North Korea would only undermine its efforts to seek more engagement with the international community.

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SpaceX just successfully launched a Falcon 9/Dragon to the ISS despite losing the functionality of one engine. North Korea fails to even successfully test the most meager of rockets.

US to North Korea:

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May well be true, although the real challenge is going to be seeing if they can miniaturize their future nuclear weapons (assuming they have the necessary resources to keep building more) to fit on them.
 
I think anyone with sufficiently shady connections could get lots of weapons that they're not supposed to have.

There are lots of weapons in this world, and lots of opportunities for them to get "lost", stolen or covertly sold to parties that could never make them on their own.

Take a mess like the Lybian coup, amid all the chaos it's perfectly possible that arms depots were raided by terrorist groups, foreign agents or whatnot.
 
Nobody can hit the USA outside of maybe Canada or Mexico.
Their geographic location is perfect and their army's budget is an angry dictator's wet dream.
 
The CNN expert was pretty interesting about this. He said it took the US 23 years and dozens of failures to get to intercontinental level, while in 5 years Korea can barely keep one from exploding after blastoff. They do have a clean command room.

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I guess its time to dust off OPLAN 5027 again. Last time it was updated was in 2008
 
I guess its time to dust off OPLAN 5027 again. Last time it was updated was in 2008

"In December 2009, South Korean media reported that North Korean hackers may have stolen secret information from OPLAN 5027 after a South Korean officer used an unsecured USB memory stick on his work computer, violating security regulations"

Make a new one
 
In all honesty, this sounds like the beginning to:

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It's just postering. I'm pretty sure the higher-ups in Pyongyang knows that if they make a move, they'll be seeing their homeland turned to dust pretty quickly.
 
Victoria with a burn, damn. I look forward to the typeofpenis IX crashing into the ocean before it gets out of eyeshot.
 
Reminds me of an art installation someone did of a crashed NK nuclear missile on a beach in Hawaii the last time they were saying this ~2009
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If by hit the U.S. mainland they mean launch a missle and have it break apart over the Pacific somewhere, then yes they can hit the U.S. mainland.

Nobody can hit the USA outside of maybe Canada or Mexico.
Their geographic location is perfect and their army's budget is an angry dictator's wet dream.

Well, this is just completely inaccurate.
 
The CNN expert was pretty interesting about this. He said it took the US 23 years and dozens of failures to get to intercontinental level, while in 5 years Korea can barely keep one from exploding after blastoff. They do have a clean command room.

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That massive room seems so unnecessary for the few amount of people and equipment they have in it.
 
That massive room seems so unnecessary for the few amount of people and equipment they have in it.

Didn't you see that thread Size Does Matter (In a small percentage of cases?

I like how their computers look like old bowling alley input screens.
 
lol NK.

I just feel extremely sorry for the people forced to live in some of the worst conditions on earth courtesy of a psychopathic, incompetent, batshit insane government.
 
Do they realize they would cease to exist if they nuked us?

I think it would bother countries that didn't have a martyr complex.
 
"Certainly rather than bragging about its missile capability, they ought to be feeding their own people," State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland said
DAMN, SON. Looks like the State Department called their bluff and went for a preemptive strike.
 
One rocket vs a couple of thousands of nukes. They're just acting like a bunch of Chihuahua's barking, trying to sound like a Pitbull.
 
The CNN expert was pretty interesting about this. He said it took the US 23 years and dozens of failures to get to intercontinental level, while in 5 years Korea can barely keep one from exploding after blastoff. They do have a clean command room

Yeah but back then they were doing the calculations with slide rulers and shit. Computers were just rolling out and were very primitive. Today it would be significantly easier, even for NK. They will get these designed eventually.
 
You may be forgetting a few countries that have ICBMs with global coverage, as well as anybody with submarine based weapons (UK, France).

I'm not saying that those countries could not hit the US in theory, of course they could. Thing is that the US can never be effectively attacked in practice with the use of ICBMs. There's enough time for the US to react on such an attack.
 
I'm not saying that those countries could not hit the US in theory, of course they could. Thing is that the US can never be effectively attacked in practice with the use of ICBMs. There's enough time for the US to react on such an attack.

This is partially correct. While I certainly think something could get through, the fact that we are effectively separated by oceans means that it would be almost impossible to mount a sustained and occupying attack on the US - which is why the "threats" we have (Al Qaida, etc.) are not worth fretting over.

We can (read: should) control our borders and could even go so far as to deny entry for anyone from certain countries - which we already due to some extent, but could be expanded, if needed. It's not an ideal solution, but it makes things a lot harder if terrorists have to then go recruit from countries that we more readily allow in.

How many military deaths have we had since 9/11 - something like 7,000, plus probably tens of thousands of troops with permanent injuries ranging from lost limbs to PTSD. And for what? Let's say we had not gone to Iraq or Afghanistan long term, would we have had that many US casualties due to "not cracking down on terror?" Doubtful.
 
I'm not saying that those countries could not hit the US in theory, of course they could. Thing is that the US can never be effectively attacked in practice with the use of ICBMs. There's enough time for the US to react on such an attack.

Geographical location is irrelevant with submarine launched ICBM's. Theoretically US/UK/France could park their subs a couple of miles away from their target and then fire, and it would be too late for anyone to do anything about it.

Nuclear submarines with ICBM's are the ultimate 21st century weapon. They're virtually undetectable, can remain under the surface for an indefinite period of time (they're only limited by the amount of food the crew needs, as they can generate their own oxygen from the seawater) and can go and strike from anywhere.

US and Europe have their own missile defence shields on board various naval vessels, but I'm not sure if anything can stop an ICBM.

Only US/UK (which share the same trident system) and France have this full capability.

/ArmchairGeneral
 
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