Big Brother 11 (US)

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JustHadToJoin said:
It may be the worst Final 3 but someone has to receive $500,000. So, who do you want to lose the most?
For me I want

3. Natalie to lose the most
2. Jordan to lose a bit
1. Kevin to lose the least (wins BB)
For me I'm flipping Jordan and Natalie. Jordan winning is anticlimatic. Kevin is my pick, but I almost want to root for Natalie because I love the BB "villains". I would love to see the conniption fit it would cause.
 
C Jones said:
For me I'm flipping Jordan and Natalie. Jordan winning is anticlimatic. Kevin is my pick, but I almost want to root for Natalie because I love the BB "villains". I would love to see the conniption fit it would cause.
I'm up in the air as long as Natalie loses hard.

I'm ok with Kevin winning but I don't like that he seems legitimately aligned with Natalie and the others. It makes me thing there's something wrong with him too. However, he did play the best game out of the remaining three.

I don't really want Jordan to win, but I will laugh if Kevin "backstabs" Natalie, takes Jordan to the F2, and then loses to her. She would only win from sympathy votes though, so it would ultimately tick me off too.
 
I love how mortys always begs for money, but on the donations page he flat out admits he won't use the money for new/better servers.
 
Anything could happen in this comp, so don't count out any of them. I do hope my boy Kevo wins the whole shebang in the end. He didn't have a strong start in the game, but he did what he did to get by; then made a lot of strong moves/wins at the end where it counts.

As for who I would like to see in second, whichever one wins Kevo the $500k :P
 
Guess Jordan's better than I expected, I didn't think she'd make over a half hour but here we go. Still is inevitable though.

Edit: Over an hour, wow. But they're saying she's acting like it hurts now.... I know it's gonna happen but I still can't bring myself to go to bed yet. But yeah, seriously impressive on her part compared to what she's been like.
 
Baker said:
Self-centered douchebags don't fly with me, male or female. She needed a kick in the reality pants, no matter how over the top it got.

Seriously...her breakdown over her fucking BB wall photo was just ridiculous.

Dick self-centered? Several times he did everything he could to get evicted if it meant Danielle staying in the game...he also had a lot of mental shit to deal with, not only being stuck in the crazyhouse that is the BB house, but being in their with his estranged daughter and trying to mend that relationship.

If I was stuck in there with Whamber, Jen, Pious Jameka, Clueless Zach, and some dude trying to get into my daughter's pants(Nick actually seemed genuine, but of course a protective father is going to assume the worst), i'd go a little crazy too.

Anywho...once again, Kevin folds under Natalie's objectives...at this point, as much as i don't want Natalie to win whatsoever, unless Kevin pulls an epic last minute BIZNATCH backstab, she'd have played the best game, for not just manipulation, but getting away with being a known manipulator on top of that.
 
OmniGamer said:
Seriously...her breakdown over her fucking BB wall photo was just ridiculous.

Dick self-centered? Several times he did everything he could to get evicted if it meant Danielle staying in the game...he also had a lot of mental shit to deal with, not only being stuck in the crazyhouse that is the BB house, but being in their with his estranged daughter and trying to mend that relationship.

If I was stuck in there with Whamber, Jen, Pious Jameka, Clueless Zach, and some dude trying to get into my daughter's pants(Nick actually seemed genuine, but of course a protective father is going to assume the worst), i'd go a little crazy too.
I wasn't talking about Dick, I meant dudes like Jessie who is just the male equivalent of Jen.
 
I didn't watch tonight's ep. I would like to pretend that Michele is still in the house. :( She's gone. :( I really wanted to see her win this thing. I really do have to say that Michele is by far one of the if not the most down to earth, genuine people on this show. And she got that far by herself basically. She's Janelle with even more brains and a better personality... thus, one of the best people to ever play on the US show.

Come on Jordan, win this thing. If there ever was a floater/leech in any season that deserves to win the 500k most, it's Jordan. I know it sucks, but that's really all we have to look forward to. Here's to the nicest floater in history bringing in half a mil. Heh heh h....
 
Diablos said:
I didn't watch tonight's ep. I would like to pretend that Michele is still in the house. :(
Me too. I know it's a game and I know fan favorites don't deserve winning over anyone else. However, there's so much fucking emotional attachment from watching/reading the feeds for THREE MONTHS straight, that it does kind of sting in the end.

I'll be back for BB12 though.

I've only watched one season of it, but do you guys think Michele and her totally-not-as-cool-as-me husband would be good on Amazing Race? I thought I heard they get ex-cbs show people on there.
 
I don't know if I will be back. I skipped 2-3 seasons (Dick's season was the last one I watched), because I remember how pissed I got at the end of BB6 and All Stars when no one decent won. Dick was a solid winner, but his style was pretty awful and nothing to be proud of, so it kind of makes you go meh. Figuring it was just a bad couple seasons, I looked forward to watching this one in hopes of seeing some good players make it to the end. No. Evidence of producers also trying to influence HG's is also very discouraging, they should stay out of the decision making process. As much as I can't stand Kevin (ooh-emm-gee), it was dumb that they tried to twist his arm. Likewise, they should have left Jeff alone when they instead encouraged him to keep Russel. I agree with the producers' intentions this season, but they should not be playing the game.

It was refreshing to see Michele in the house, since 90% of the time it's filled with egomaniacs, snobs, freaks, leeches, complete morons, you name it. Really, even the "better" HGs this season have serious character flaws. Jeff was edited to look like a class act, but he's said some stuff on the feeds that makes him look no better than Russel. Jordan's a nice girl, but she only got this far by cuddling up with Jeff and being lazy.

Michele's game shouldn't be overlooked... she was honestly in a class of her own, no one else in the house was like her, period. I felt like she was someone who represented a lot of the true fans well, opposed to the intellectually bankrupt people that they've been casting over the past few seasons who bolt through the door with whatever else it is that contributes to their dysfunctional behavior(s). I really don't think there's ever been a HG like Michele in any season.

BB casitng should get a clue. Bring in more people like Michele, less people like Natalie, Ivette, etc. It would be nice if they would go back to bringing in a house full of mostly normal people so you don't have to worry about a bunch of dipshits who happen to get lucky making it to the end. There's nothing interesting about people like Jessie or Lydia. Once they get a house full of mostly normal people again, maybe they won't have to worry about panicking due to falling ratings and suggest things to HG's in the Diary Room to try and turn the show around.
According to the Overnight TV Ratings, the Sunday broadcast of Big Brother lost half its audience from the previous two Sundays.

The last two Sundays in August, the show recorded a 2.5 rating. This past Sunday, the first show without Jeff Schroeder and after Thursday's win by Natalie Martinez, drew an anemic 1.2 rating, or approximately 6 million viewers.

While it lost most of its previous fans, the CBS show was Sunday night's only original programming and still was the most watched show overall, edging out a runover repeat broadcast of Dateline on NBC.

The official news release by TV by the numbers.com reads:

On a repeat filled holiday weekend Sunday, a new episode of CBS’ Big Brother was the top rated show in the adults 18-49 demo and helped put CBS on top for the night with just a 1.2 demo rating average overall as broadcast ratings fell sharply from last week.

While it towered over the weak competition, Big Brother 11 was down sharply from the 2.5 demo ratings it scored the previous two Sundays.

I rest my case. Stop casting stupid people. And for fuck's sake, don't give simpletons like Jessie a second chance at this game. That really just shows their ignorance to this ongoing problem that poisons the US show.
 
If everyone was as normal as her it wouldn't be much of a show. You need the crazies to make you care about what happens to people like Michele. It's just a matter of people like her winning against the odds that makes or breaks the enjoyment.
 
You can have some intense people but don't fill half the house with them, and be a bit more thorough in the scouting/interviewing process so you don't have people who are basically filler (Lydia, Natalie, Jordan).
 
typhonsentra said:
If everyone was as normal as her it wouldn't be much of a show. You need the crazies to make you care about what happens to people like Michele. It's just a matter of people like her winning against the odds that makes or breaks the enjoyment.
To me, part of the fun is seeing normal people go crazy. It's no surprise and just disgusting when people like Lydia go nuts.
 
Lydia was always nuts. She and Natalie are the worst HG's in a long long time, plus Jessie of course.

Whatever, I'm going to bed. GG Michele, one of the top 10 BB US houseguests for sure.
I hope to check Jokers tomorrow before work to see Jordan finally pulling out a win.
 
typhonsentra said:
If everyone was as normal as her it wouldn't be much of a show. You need the crazies to make you care about what happens to people like Michele. It's just a matter of people like her winning against the odds that makes or breaks the enjoyment.
Exactly. If everyone was like Michelle there is no way I'd watch this show. As someone who just watched the show and none of the live feeds I found her very forgettable and boring. Which is fine, not everyone on the show should be a huge perosnality. I just couldn't take it if half the cast was like that. This is why I root for people like Jessie and Russell to stay in the house. I watch for the entertainment - I like to see how people respond/behave in certain situations. I don't take the "game" aspect of it very seriously at all. Too much random shit occurs for me to think this "game" requires skill. It's still my favorite show on tv though.
 
typhonsentra said:
Holy shit, Jordan actually made it to After Dark? :lol

She's giving it her all, you have to respect that.
Ah shit, AD is on. Guess it's time to stop playing Batman and bust out the vodka.
 
Michele screwed herself all the way back to the LML. As smart and classy as she is, she's got a horrible memory, and when confronted with a lie about herself, she'd rather just say 'I dunno' instead of think it through. She actually went further than that; embellishing the lie and just being generally weird whenever she talked with Jeff/Jordan.

Natalie would have left after Lydia if Michele had worked harder to keep the F4 alliance in tact instead of backstabbing Russ every convo she had with Jeff/Jordan. Russ was pretty much her best/only ally in the house there and she fucked it up.
 
I am really debating whether or not to continue watching. Natalie is probably one of the most despicable people to ever be on the show. Certain people were assholes and got far but at least they played the game and had a strategy. Natalie has done absolutley nothing the entire season all while walking around every week like she was running the house. Nothing makes me happier to see that the ratings tanked when Jeff got evicted and she won HoH.

Although part of me is pissed that everyone I was remotley interested in played a really stupid game (except Michele).

Everyone says what a great game Michele played. I did not watch the feeds, but I feel as though CBS did not edit it to make it look like Michele did anything other than win competitions. What else did she do during the feeds that did not make it into the show?
 
FirstInHell said:
Everyone says what a great game Michele played. I did not watch the feeds, but I feel as though CBS did not edit it to make it look like Michele did anything other than win competitions. What else did she do during the feeds that did not make it into the show?
Nothing really. It's more that the fucktard alliance decided to call her Satan for pretty much the entire show (unwarranted).

As for not watching next year, I said the same thing after BB6 and look at us now. We'll all be back. Muwhahaha.
 
During the FINAL competition where they can't take their hands of something, Jordan is fucking leaning all over to give the other people candy. There's a point where a person can be too nice...

And now we get to fucking watch Natalie chew gum with her whole face.

Edit: Natalie is totally only holding on to the rope and not the key.

Double edit: I guess they're all handing shit around so it's not just Jordan.
 
I don't know where people are getting Natalie did nothing the whole game. Aligning with the right people is just as if not more important than winning competitions. She's also adept at lying to where she doesn't get caught (Pandoras Box not included) or if people call her out, is able to talk them down and make herself seem trustworthy even if there is still some doubt. She's a manipulator, and in a game filled with lies and backstabbing, it's a good trait to have. Plus you have to admit she pulled off a win at the exact right moment this last HOH.

As for the ratings - Labor Day Weekend much? It was still the top show. I have no doubt some people tuned out because Jeff (aka Mr. Eyecandy '09) was evicted, but trips and vacations were probably part of the reason as well. Also, like I said earlier in the thread, people will tune in now because of how much they hate Natalie and/or Kevin, just want to tune in hoping one or the other loses. People have watched all season, they are invested in how things turn out.

Only one more episode without everyone's precious Jeff anyway. Sunday he will be shown in Jury house, then Tuesday is the finale/reunion. So people will be back for the last episodes. And will be back for next season. Don't doubt it.
 
Koomaster said:
I don't know where people are getting Natalie did nothing the whole game. Aligning with the right people is just as if not more important than winning competitions. She's also adept at lying to where she doesn't get caught (Pandoras Box not included) or if people call her out, is able to talk them down and make herself seem trustworthy even if there is still some doubt. She's a manipulator, and in a game filled with lies and backstabbing, it's a good trait to have. Plus you have to admit she pulled off a win at the exact right moment this last HOH.
Everything Natalie did she only got away with because the rest of the house was made up of idiots.

- She only aligned with who was in power (Jessie, Chima, Kevin). No one called her out on it though.

- I've made multiple posts about how every day she does something to prove she's not 18.

- Winning that HoH was completely random. There was a reason they all only got ~50% of the questions right in a true/false competition.

- And again, just cuz I'm bored... Seriously, all her lies suck. I cannot think of a single one that went through that wasn't dependent on the mark being a moron. The way she tried to talk her way out of the Pandora lie just shows she has no skills in that department.

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She's also one of those "entitlement" players which just pisses me off. I mean right now during this comp, she's trying to tell BB what to do. "I'm cooooold turn on the log so I can warm up!! Waaaah!" What's funny is they haven't turned it back on since she started whining.
 
Jordan's nipples are out of control in all this cold rain. :D

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Oh man, they are really fucking them with the log now. It keeps changing direction every couple seconds.

Double edit:

They might be getting ready to bust Natalie for holding the rope and not the key. The cameraman just zoomed in on her hand.
 
What happened there? It came back from commercial and some guy off camera said "Ok, the game is back on."

Did something break and they magically fixed it in 1.5 minutes?

typhonsentra said:
This is absurd how they're not calling Natalie for letting go of the key. I've seen several shots where her hands let go for the rope.
We need to see the fine print. Technically, she is touching the key, but she is in no way "holding on to it."
 
Baker said:
Everything Natalie did she only got away with because the rest of the house was made up of idiots.

- She only aligned with who was in power (Jessie, Chima, Kevin). No one called her out on it though.

- I've made multiple posts about how every day she does something to prove she's not 18.

- Winning that HoH was completely random. There was a reason they all only got ~50% of the questions right in a true/false competition.

- And again, just cuz I'm bored... Seriously, all her lies suck. I cannot think of a single one that went through that wasn't dependent on the mark being a moron. The way she tried to talk her way out of the Pandora lie just shows she has no skills in that department.

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She's also one of those "entitlement" players which just pisses me off. I mean right now during this comp, she's trying to tell BB what to do. "I'm cooooold turn on the log so I can warm up!! Waaaah!" What's funny is they haven't turned it back on since she started whining.
Jessie/Chima/Kevin were all in her alliance. It's not like she was BFFs with Jeff one week, then was BFFs with Kevin the next.

The whole 18y/o thing is kinda dumb I admit, but if someone had called her out on it earlier in the game, she probably would have just played it off. No one did, so that let her know her audience. She kinda pushes things with drinking alcohol and other things she does to give herself away - but again, look at her audience. Either they are all dumb (inc. Michele), or they don't care and it doesn't affect how they see her.

The HOH comp. came down to a question that happened inside the house. She won it because Michele changed her answer, lowballed it. Anyone paying attention to the comp knows that Russ/Jeff/Kevin were all right at the top of winning - that's almost 75 (Nat's answer) why lowball it to 60? And that 75 is even discounting the cans for Michele/Natalie in that comp. So Nat deserved the win in the end for that.

As for complaining in the endurance comp; meh, It's not like she has some blackmail on the people working BB - just complaining. She's been up the 3 hours now, I'd be complaining as well. :P
 
Kevin was not aligned with Jessie, was he? That's something that came up recently, how Nat claimed the two of them were aligned since the beginning (Dunno about that) but Kevin wasn't with Jessie and Natalie wasn't with Lydia.
 
Baker said:
What happened there? It came back from commercial and some guy off camera said "Ok, the game is back on."

Did something break and they magically fixed it in 1.5 minutes?


We need to see the fine print. Technically, she is touching the key, but she is in no way "holding on to it."
:lol Wouldn't be the first time. Something always goes a little awry in these comps, especially with moving mechanical parts.

As for the key thing; I would consider the rope a part of the key personally. I don't think they would instantly DQ someone for that. They are probably asking someone in charge the ruling, and if it is against their decision, they will throw out a warning first.

As of now, I have seen everyone hold on to the rope but not the key, so they can't toss just one person out because of it.
 
Koomaster said:
Jessie/Chima/Kevin were all in her alliance. It's not like she was BFFs with Jeff one week, then was BFFs with Kevin the next.
I personally think she would have ditched Chima's ass if she didn't win HoH that week. I could be completely full of shit though. Chima came into that alliance pretty late and with Jessie nominating Lydia, it could have easily split Kevin out of that group too.

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Man this foot cam is way too intense!

typhonsentra said:
Kevin was not aligned with Jessie, was he? That's something that came up recently, how Nat claimed the two of them were aligned since the beginning (Dunno about that) but Kevin wasn't with Jessie and Natalie wasn't with Lydia.
Plus they had all the clique shit to deal with during the first 4 weeks. Natalie only cared about Jessie during that time.
 
Do they have rules on what they can wear during these comps? They're all in sweatpants but they had to know they'd be getting wet.

Could someone have run out there in windbreaker-material (I dunno the technical word) track pants?

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Did something happen between Kevin and Natalie on the way to the comp? He's called her a wench at least three times tonight. She is being annoying with the "hay guyz u should drop!" crap.
 
Baker said:
Did something happen between Kevin and Natalie on the way to the comp? He's called her a wench at least three times tonight. She is being annoying with the "hay guyz u should drop!" crap.

I think they're just being playful, but notice that both are being really nice to Jordan. I think it's pretty much understood that either of them would take Jordan to the finals, and each wants her to take them if she gets it. So there probably is a bit of genuine competitiveness now, given the fact that their alliance is effectively over.
 
Toy Soldier said:
I think they're just being playful, but notice that both are being really nice to Jordan. I think it's pretty much understood that either of them would take Jordan to the finals, and each wants her to take them if she gets it. So there probably is a bit of genuine competitiveness now, given the fact that their alliance is effectively over.
I would be really interested in seeing Jordan in the finals. I can't decide if she would get 1 vote or like 4.

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Is the camera at an angle or is Natalie like 4'11"?
 
Natalie is getting ready to quit. She's spinning some bullshit lies about being able to last all night.

Natalie: "You can't beat me at this. I'm giving this to you dude. This is mine to win."
 
Meh, time to go to bed. Can't look at Gnat's shitface any more.

Sucks, cause I think Michelle would have won this one. She's tougher than Kev or Gnat.

Producer talking to Jordo, trying to help her warm up without getting sick. He sounds like he feels bad for her.
 
Natalie is throwing it in ~15 minutes. She promised Kev yesterday she would throw it if Jordan dropped first and he promised her final 2.
 
This is honestly making me sick listening to her spew bullshit. However, I'm not going to bed until I see her ass hit the floor.
 
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