Bill Maher - Republicans are the same as 14 year olds who are dicks.

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Checkmate, Libruls
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Buzzati said:
He isn't kidding you. Public schooling as denoted by Karl Marx's 10th plank states, "10. Free education for all children in government schools. Abolition of children's factory labor in its present form. Combination of education with industrial production, etc. etc."

So, he isn't incorrect. Now, I doubt that communists created the idea of public schools,.
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Uh, indeed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Mann

Not to mention the massive historical roots of popular education and schooling in general, none of this sprang up de novo in the industrial era, but merely morphed into a form more suitable for it. In historical times education was not always a province of the wealthy, especially in tribal and more decentralized structures.
 
FieryBalrog said:
Uh, indeed.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horace_Mann

Not to mention the massive historical roots of popular education and schooling in general, none of this sprang up de novo in the industrial era, but merely morphed into a form more suitable for it. In historical times education was not always a province of the wealthy, especially in tribal and more decentralized structures.
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It's a good thing he nor I said Communists invented public schools.


Horace Mann didn't even invent the idea of the public school. He popularized it in America, however.
 
Buzzati said:
It's a good thing he nor I said Communists invented public schools.
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because "People seem to forget that things like police departments and public schools are communist ideas" doesn't imply that they are communist ideas and not general ideas that are not specific to communism whatsoever.

It's about as foolish as the statement "anti-smoking is a fascist idea".
 
FieryBalrog said:
because "People seem to forget that things like police departments and public schools are communist ideas" doesn't imply that they are communist ideas and not general ideas that are not specific to communism whatsoever.

It's about as foolish as the statement "anti-smoking is a fascist idea".
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He said it was a communist idea. Which it is.


I guess that's the end of that one!
 
CHEEZMO™;39173819 said:
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I can't tell...is that comic chastising those who refuse to face higher taxation in recognition of what Jesus actually did say, or is it a hilariously oblivious "republican" cartoon that blatantly ignores scripture?
 
CHEEZMO™;39173819 said:
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Jesus did in fact say this.
The synoptic gospels state that hostile questioners tried to trap Jesus into taking an explicit and dangerous stand on whether Jews should or should not pay taxes to the Roman authorities. The accounts in Matthew and Mark say that the questioners were Pharisees and Herodians, while Luke says only that they were "spies" sent by "teachers of the law and the chief priests".
They anticipated that Jesus would oppose the tax, as their purpose was "to hand him over to the power and authority of the governor" (Luke 20:20). The governor was Pilate, and he was the man responsible for the collecting of taxes in Roman Judea. At first the questioners flattered Jesus by praising his integrity, impartiality, and devotion to truth. Then they asked him whether or not it is right for Jews to pay the taxes demanded by Caesar. In the Gospel of Mark (12:15) the additional, provocative question is asked, "Should we pay or shouldn't we?" Jesus first called them hypocrites, and then asked one of them to produce a Roman coin that would be suitable for paying Caesar's tax. One of them showed him a Roman coin, and he asked them whose name and inscription were on it. They answered, "Caesar's," and he responded
"Render therefore unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's; and unto God the things that are God's"
The questioners were impressed (Matthew 22:22 states that they "marvelled", ἐθαύμασαν) and satisfied with the answer, they went away.
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It's fairly unambiguous and if you ever wanted proof that paying taxes is what the passage intended to state, this epic counterclaim at Lew Rockwell's website is the nail in the coffin.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig11/barr-j1.1.1.html
 
My crazy Uncle Tommy just posed this. WTF man.

‎22 WAYS TO BE A GOOD DEMOCRAT
1. You have to be against capital punishment, but support abortion on demand.
2. You have to believe that businesses create oppression and governments create prosperity.
3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. Nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists.
4. You have to believe that there was no art before Federal funding.
5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical documented changes in the earth's climate and more affected by soccer moms driving SUV's.
6. You have to believe that gender roles are artificial but being homosexual is natural.
7. You have to believe that the AIDS virus is spread by a lack of federal funding.
8. You have to believe that the same teacher who can't teach fourth graders how to read is somehow qualified to teach those same kids about sex.
9. You have to believe that hunters don't care about nature, but loony activists who have never been outside of San Francisco do.
10. You have to believe that self-esteem is more important than actually doing something to earn it.
11. You have to believe that Mel Gibson spent $25 million of his own money to make "The Passion of the Christ" for financial gain only.
12. You have to believe the NRA is bad because it supports certain parts of the Constitution, while the ACLU is good because it supports certain parts of the Constitution.
13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Edison, and A.G. Bell.
15. You have to believe that standardized tests are racist, but racial quotas and set-asides are not.
16. You have to believe that Hillary Clinton is normal and is a very nice person.
17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been In charge.
18. You have to believe conservatives telling the truth belong in jail, but a liar and a sex offender belonged in the White House.
19. You have to believe that homosexual parades displaying drag, transvestites, and bestiality should be constitutionally protected, and manger scenes at Christmas should be illegal.
20. You have to believe that illegal Democrat Party funding by the Chinese Government is somehow in the best interest to the United States.
21. You have to believe that this message is a part of a vast, right wing conspiracy.
22. You have to believe that it's okay to give Federal workers the day off on Christmas Day but it's not okay to say "Merry Christmas."
REMEMBER NOVEMBER!!
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FieryBalrog said:
freedom is a Republican idea
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It is. Freedom is a big part of the Republican ideology. Anti-slavery was a big part of its roots.

Buzzati said:
Is "freedom" as nebulous and politically inert a word construed for an idea as "public schooling"? Replace the word "freedom" with an actual idea and the sentence doesn't necessarily sound so ridiculous.
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"Yeah sorry, I guess I misunderstood his post. I thought he meant to say that public schooling was an idea created by Communists instead of it being part of the ideology."

I don't understand why its so difficult for people to just simply say "my bad, I misunderstood".
 
Mully said:
My crazy Uncle Tommy just posed this. WTF man.
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i'm pretty sure that list was written circa 1996-1997 based on the fear of the Chinese, the Clinton impeachment thing, the Hillary Clinton thing, and the "vast right wing conspiracy" thing. I guess the Passion of the Christ one was added after?
 
Stumpokapow said:
i'm pretty sure that list was written circa 1996-1997 based on the fear of the Chinese, the Clinton impeachment thing, the Hillary Clinton thing, and the "vast right wing conspiracy" thing. I guess the Passion of the Christ one was added after?
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I'm really glad I never see him. The last time I saw him I was three years old and it was only for one minute.
 
How long do these episodes take to get onto HBO Go?

edit: nm, they must've just put it up.
 
3. You have to believe that guns in the hands of law-abiding Americans are more of a threat than U.S. Nuclear weapons technology in the hands of Chinese and North Korean communists.
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Hasn't China had nukes for several decades? Was this written by Herman Cain?

5. You have to believe that global temperatures are less affected by cyclical documented changes in the earth's climate and more affected by soccer moms driving SUV's.
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Yes, because liberals are spending all their time chasing after that one soccer mom every waking moment.

13. You have to believe that taxes are too low, but ATM fees are too high.
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I don't get this one. So he too thinks taxes are too low?

14. You have to believe that Margaret Sanger and Gloria Steinem are more important to American history than Thomas Jefferson, Thomas Edison, and A.G. Bell.
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Yeah, about that...it's not the libruls that hate Jefferson:

http://voices.yahoo.com/why-will-thomas-jefferson-removed-school-books-5779388.html?cat=9

In fact, I'd argue Jefferson would probably be the most hated of the founding fathers for your average right winger (if they knew anything about him).

17. You have to believe that the only reason socialism hasn't worked anywhere it's been tried is because the right people haven't been In charge.
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I'm guessing he means communism instead of socialism here. Otherwise, see: Pretty much all of Europe, and the rest of the industrialized world.
 
Can we all at least agree we need Goldwater republicans back? This branch of neoconservative bigotry has literally fucked everything up.
 
Devolution said:
Can we all at least agree we need Goldwater republicans back? This branch of neoconservative bigotry has literally fucked everything up.
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There actually is a Goldwater institute here in Phoenix. Fortunately/unfortunately it doesn't involve itself in actual policy making. However, it does interject when government attempts to perform corporate welfare. For example it has opposed the interjection of municipal money in stadium projects and it has opposed municipal tax credits for private companies to build downtown and other areas. I don't see them as wrong; I think, however, that government can play a role in urban development.
 
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