Support NeoGAF

[Excelion]

It seems that EGM and all the GAF "insiders" were wrong.

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/646/646723p1.html

A BioWare spokesperson told IGN two unannounced games are being developed by two different BioWare teams. BioWare has a total of four teams at work currently. Though the spokesperson wouldn't reveal which games they are, both Microsoft Game Studios Executive Shane Kim and BioWare team members have said in the past that Jade Empire 2 (working title) is definitely in development.

We have two teams working on Xbox 360 titles, one team on Dragon Age (for the PC), and one on digital distribution, which is ongoing content created for Neverwinter Nights."

 

[Lord Error]

GAF insiders were saying that next KOTOR is supposed to be PS3 exclusive. Why, I have no idea, but that's what they said. Bioware on Xbox 360 was known since at least this E3, and I doubt that means they won't develop anything on PS3.

 

[Amir0x]

EGM specifically said Bioware and Id (who else? I forgot...) have exclusive projects for PS3, but that it doesn't mean they're not making games for XBX360.

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

Wasn't it that Canadian newspaper that said Bioware were working on PS3 Draikin?

 

[Wax Free Vanilla]

EGM specifically said Bioware and Id (who else? I forgot...) have exclusive projects for PS3, but that it doesn't mean they're not making games for XBX360.

Valve and ID, I don't remember Bioware though. :scratch:

 

[Doom_Bringer]

Wasn't it that Canadian newspaper that said Bioware were working on PS3 Draikin?

It was a Canadian website - Sympatico. And all they said was that Bioware employee’s attended the Sony E3 PC and all GAF jumped to conclusion that Bioware was making games for PS3.

I think these guys are Xbox exclusive! MS has them locked down just like Team Ninja.

Valve and ID, I don't remember Bioware though. :scratch:

I doubt PS3 will get any support from those guys either :\

 

[The Abominable Snowman]

Johnny Nighttrain Rocks! He was soooo right...

 

[Excelion]

read the article, they cant have a PS3 game in development - their 4 teams are working on PC/X360 stuff. Bioware is not Squenix, they can only release around one game per year.

 

[Agent Icebeezy]

Johnny Nighttrain Rocks! He was soooo right...

He just can't get a break. hahaha

 

[blindrocket]

Not a big loss to me either way.

 

[Lord Error]

I think these guys are Xbox exclusive! MS has them locked down just like Team Ninja.

They said in one interview how they'd like to make games for PSP, as they like playing with it so much. They probably wouldn't be saying stuff like that if they were locked with some kind of exclusivity. I think the reason why they were only on Xbox (after MDK2 that is) is the same reason most other PC devs are on it - familiarity with the hardware and dev tools.

Johnny Nighttrain Rocks! He was soooo right...

What did he say? That they are going Nintendo exclusive this timea around?

 

[Optimistic]

I love Bioware games but Jade Empire sucked; they should ditch that franchise.

 

[Redbeard]

So, not.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

I doubt it. They said in one interview how they'd like to make games for PSP, as they like playing with it so much. They probably wouldn't be saying stuff like that if they were locked with some kind of exclusivity.

John Carmack said that he liked PSP and wanted to make a game for it! That doesn't mean id will put out a game on PSP or PS3

I think the reason why they were only on Xbox (after MDK2 that is) is the same reason most other PC devs are on it - familiarity with the hardware and dev tools.

I think moneyhats are at work here! why didn't they port Jade Empire to PC???

 

[element]

MS was close to buying Bioware. They are very close. It wouldn't shock me if MS ends up publishing Dragon Age.

 

[ToyMachine228]

I believe that Bioware has licensed the Source engine from Valve for their next game, if that hasn't already been mentioned. I'm sure they'll do an Xbox 360 game, they stated they were interested in the Revolution, and GameSpy says they're doing KOTOR 3 for the PlayStation 3...But who knows.

 

[Ghost]

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=59531&highlight=Bioware

 

[Prine]

Not ditch, just "fix"

Bring back 'proper' character customization and add more depth to the leveling up system. Make the universe more engaging and sort out the combat.

Yeah ditch it

 

[Lord Error]

I think moneyhats are at work here! why didn't they port Jade Empire to PC???

Isn't Jade Empire Microsoft's property? If it is, for the same reason you won't see Halo 2 on PC anytime soon, if ever.

 

[Elios83]

John Carmack said that he liked PSP and wanted to make a game for it! That doesn't mean id will put out a game on PSP or PS3



I think moneyhats are at work here! why didn't they port Jade Empire to PC???

Actually John Carmack recently confirmed their next game is coming on PC,Xbox360 and PS3 and this is the first time they're doing both the consoles versions at Id.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

I believe that Bioware has licensed the Source engine from Valve for their next game, if that hasn't already been mentioned. I'm sure they'll do an Xbox 360 game, they stated they were interested in the Revolution, and GameSpy says they're doing KOTOR 3 for the PlayStation 3...But who knows.

They are using Unreal 3.0 for their next game.

Isn't Jade Empire Microsoft's property? If it is, for the same reason you won't see Halo 2 on PC anytime soon, if ever.

Read element's post

Actually John Carmack recently confirmed they're next game is coming on PC,Xbox360 and PS3 and this is the first time they're doing both the consoles versions at Id.

He said PS3 development is a pain in the ass and developers will be better off starting a game on PS3 and then porting it to X360 > PC. He went on to say that he plans to work on X360 for the next six months or so! What does that tell you?

 

[Lord Error]

http://www.ga-forum.com/showthread.php?t=59531&highlight=Bioware

I don't see how is Johnny owned in that thread though. Bioware most likely won't be developing KOTOR 3.

Read element's post

I did, but that has nothing to do with Jade Empire not being on PC. If MS owns Jade Empire, it's their decision what platform to publish it on, not Bioware's.

 

[ManaByte]

So, not.

Valve's next console project after HL2 Xbox is on X360, not PS3 and id's next console project is on both PS3 and X360 (and PC) however it isn't being developed internally at id.

id has in the pipeline:
Carmack's new game, which is a new IP for the PC using the next generation cards from nVidia and ATI.
Quake IV PC/X360 (Raven)
Enemy Territory: Quake Wars (developed externally)
Return to Castle Wolfenstien 2 for PC/X360/PS3 (developed externally)

I don't see how is Johnny owned in that thread though. Bioware most likely won't be developing KOTOR 3.

Obsidion isn't doing it. They're tied up with NWN2 for quite a while.

 

[radioheadrule83]

Wasn't there a KOTOR rumor that suggested it was out of Bioware's hands? In that case KOTOR for PS3 could still be a viable rumor.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

I don't see how is Johnny owned in that thread though. Bioware most likely won't be developing KOTOR 3.

no it was before e3 where he stated that kotor was coming to PS3.

 

[Elios83]

He said PS3 development is a pain in the ass and developers will be better off starting a game on PS3 and then porting it to X360 > PC. He went on to say that he plans to work on X360 for the next six months or so! What does that tell you?

Ok but he also confirmed their next gen game is coming on PS3.

 

[Lord Error]

Valve's next console project after HL2 Xbox is on X360, not PS3 and id's next console project is on both PS3 and X360 (and PC) however it isn't being developed internally at id

Where did you hear that about Valve and ID? The way Gabe harps on next gen consoles you'd think he would never develop on any of them...

Obsidion isn't doing it. They're tied up with NWN2 for quite a while.

I know, but Bioware is not doing it either (well, very likely not)

 

[Amir0x]

I love Bioware games but Jade Empire sucked; they should ditch that franchise.

Bioware developed KOTORIII is my fantasy. My dreaaaaaam!

 

[DopeyFish]

Wasn't there a KOTOR rumor that suggested it was out of Bioware's hands? In that case KOTOR for PS3 could still be a viable rumor.

It's lucasarts property. Bioware made the first games and Obsidian (close ties to Bioware) made the second.

 

[Doom_Bringer]

Ok but he also confirmed their next gen game is coming on PS3.

It will probably be a shoddy port, I bet they will outsource the PS3 version to another dev. X360 and the PC versions are going to be the real meaty version.

Where did you hear that about Valve and ID? The way Gabe harps on next gen consoles you'd think he would never develop on any of them...

Valve is working on Half Life 3 for Xbox 360 and they are using XNA. It was on a X360 slide that torns posted a while ago.

 

[Excelion]

KotOR3 was an internal project at Lucas Arts and got cancelled. If it has been resurected, we know that Obisdian and Bioware dont have the ressources to start another project, it's probably in the hands of a third rate developer.

 

[golem]

whether kotor is exclusive to ps3 or not is beside the point however, since i dont believe Bioware has any interest ins making further kotor games. They want to develop their own IP. Jade Empire is not a MSFT property but in most likelyhood exclusive to the Xbox because Microsoft funded/published it.

http://www.bioware.com/legal/copyright.html

Bioware didnt license source, they licensed UE3.

Also, Carmack stated in his QuakeCon keynote that he would be working pretty much exclusively (as in devoting his time) on the Xbox360 for the next 6 months.

 

[Andrew2]

Isn't Jade Empire Microsoft's property? If it is, for the same reason you won't see Halo 2 on PC anytime soon, if ever.

Nope, BioWare owns the complete IP to Jade Empire as do Epic with Gears of War. The only involvement Microsoft has Jade Empire and Gears of War, is distribution. Essentially, both Epic and Bioware get a free distribution deal in return for making thier titles exclusive.

 

[element]

whether kotor is exclusive to ps3 or not is beside the point however, since i dont believe Bioware has any interest ins making further kotor games. They want to develop their own IP.

ding ding ding. Bioware is interested in original IPs.

Bizzare Creations probably will get a PS3 devkit, but that doesn't mean they will make games for it.

 

[imastalker co.]

i said Kotor 3 is a PS3 exclusive. exactly how have i been proven wrong? i never said anything about bioware. besides, im not the only one saying this.

 

[Elios83]

i said Kotor 3 is a PS3 exclusive. exactly how have i been proven wrong? i never said anything about bioware. besides, im not the only one saying this.

So who's developing it :lol ?

 

[imastalker co.]

beats me, i could care less about the game.

 

[Elios83]

beats me, i could care less about the game.

Ok but how is possible to know it will be exclusive to a platform if it isn't even clear who's developing it? ^^''

 

[Mobius_1]

So, not.

:lol

None of these western devs will make any PS3 games. Id's JC is going to work on X360 engine for the next six months, Valve's already got HL3 going for X360 with XNA support, Epic got Gears of War X360 exclusive and nothing for PS3 and finally MS has Bioware by the balls. Stupid EMG rumor mill.

 

[Forsete]

:lol

None of these western devs will make any PS3 games. Id's JC is going to work on X360 engine for the next six months, Valve's already got HL3 going for X360 with XNA support, Epic got Gears of War X360 exclusive and nothing for PS3 and finally MS has Bioware by the balls. Stupid EMG rumor mill.

I thought Unreal Tournament 2007 was heading for PS3?

 

[Kleegamefan]

i said Kotor 3 is a PS3 exclusive. exactly how have i been proven wrong? i never said anything about bioware. besides, im not the only one saying this.

I thought Unreal Tournament 2007 was heading for PS3?

It is....

 

[Elios83]

:lol

None of these western devs will make any PS3 games. Id's JC is going to work on X360 engine for the next six months, Valve's already got HL3 going for X360 with XNA support, Epic got Gears of War X360 exclusive and nothing for PS3 and finally MS has Bioware by the balls. Stupid EMG rumor mill.

Again ^^''
Carmack has confirmed at QuakeCon that while he prefers Xbox360 they have the PS3 devkit and they'll make the PS3 version of their next gen game internally.
Epic has a strong relationship with Sony (with a contract to use Unreal Engine as a standard tool in the PS3 devkits) and has confirmed Unreal Turnament 2007 on PS3.
The other two still nothing.

 

[Mobius_1]

I thought Unreal Tournament 2007 was heading for PS3?

Come on man! Do you really see yourself playing a FPS with that batarang controller? Match fixing, finding buddies, the controls will all be better on the X360 version. And Epic hasn't announced any games for PS3 yet! They have only annouced Unreal 3 engine support for PS3.

 

[Amir0x]

Come on man! Do you really see yourself playing a FPS with that batarang controller? Match fixing, finding buddies, the controls will all be better on the X360 version.

This has absolutely nothing to do with what you stated above.

 

[Kleegamefan]

dp

 

[Kleegamefan]

Come on man! Do you really see yourself playing a FPS with that batarang controller? Match fixing, finding buddies, the controls will all be better on the X360 version. And Epic hasn't announced any games for PS3 yet! They have only annouced Unreal 3 engine support for PS3.

So let me get this straight......Epic hasnt announced any games for PS3, but Half Life Three is coming for Xbox 360????

Did I somehow miss *that* anouncement?? :lol



P.S. Xbox 360 isn't the only gaming platform using XNA

 

[Mobius_1]

Again ^^''
Carmack has confirmed at QuakeCon that while he prefers Xbox360 they have the PS3 devkit and they'll make the PS3 version of their next gen game internally.
Epic has a strong relationship with Sony (with a connnnntract to use Unreal Engine as a standard tool in the PS3 devkits) and has confirmed Unreal Turnament 2007 on PS3.
The other two still nothing.

Look buddy: Carmack said that will be working on X360 for the next 6 months!! He also said it will be easier for developers to make the PS3 version of the game first and then port it to X360. I strongly believe that id's next game will be X360 and PC exclusive but they might assign another developer to port it to PS3 at a later date (doom 3 xbox situation)

As for the Epic stuff; Unreal 3 engine isn't standard! Devs will have to pay 1 million to use the engine. Secondly, if Sony and Epic had a close relationship then epic should haven annouced a PS3 title already but they haven't! Gears of War = X360 exclusive. PS3 = nothing! :lol

 

[Amir0x]

So let me get this straight......Epic hasnt announced any games for PS3, but Half Life Three is coming for Xbox 360????

Did I somehow miss *that* anouncement?? :lol



P.S. Xbox 360 isn't the only gaming platform using XNA

IIRC, the assumption about Half-Life 3 is being made from a slide people saw.

 

[element]

Epic has a strong relationship with Sony (with a contract to use Unreal Engine as a standard tool in the PS3 devkits)

Unreal Engine 3.0 isn't a standard tool. An EVALUATION copy of the tools and engine are being distributed with each devkit. Far from everyone who gets a PS3 devkits is going to use UE3.0

 

[Mobius_1]

This has absolutely nothing to do with what you stated above.

Unreal Tournament 2007 is PC only right now!

Unreal Engine 3.0 isn't a standard tool. An EVALUATION copy of the tools and engine are being distributed with each devkit. Far from everyone who gets a PS3 devkits is going to use UE3.0

And that deal is Japan exclusive only. Only the Japanese developers get the evaluation engine.