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[Lemurnator]

This is a serious question.

People talk about homosexuality being genetic and a non-obsessive form of sexuality but nobody seems to have a stance on bisexuality that I've heard anyways.

Is bisexuality a natural attraction as a result of genes also or would it be considered more of a fetish like a foot fetish, a belly button fetish, or whatever? Are people who play for both teams on the same bracket as homosexuals or are they people who just... are more horney in general and react sexually to signals from either gender because they take it wherever they can get it?

So my question is, would bisexuality be in the same boat as homosexuality in terms of it being a naturally occuring behavior?

Nobody ever talks about that, and I'd like to know.

 

[Kabuki Waq]

it would really depend if both chicks are hot.

 

[Lil' Dice]

For some people it's merely a fetish.

 

[Grizzlyjin]

To be honest, I think a lot of women do it to be cool. I don't mean to make light of it.But I've seen so many girls that say they're bi. It's the hip thing to do...I've seen tons of girls kiss at a party just to get attention from all the guys.

I haven't seen much of male bisexuality though, I would love to hear from someone on how that works.

 

[Lemurnator]

I mean in people who don't just do it to be cool, but do it because they are attracted to both genders.

 

[maharg]

are more horney in general and react sexually to signals from either gender because they take it wherever they can get it?

This is the most retarded logic ever. I can't understand how anyone can possibly make sense of it.

Mind you that simply being willing to kiss people of your own gender in a public place does not make you bisexual, but the fact that there are people willing to do so does not diminish the existence and validity of bisexuality as an orientation.

See also the Kinsey scale.

 

[Kiriku]

I think for some people bisexuality is a transition phase towards turning homosexual. Or rather...accepting their homosexuality.

 

[Star Power]

 

[Lemurnator]

This is the most retarded logic ever. I can't understand how anyone can possibly make sense of it.

Mind you that simply being willing to kiss people of your own gender in a public place does not make you bisexual, but the fact that there are people willing to do so does not diminish the existence and validity of bisexuality as an orientation.

See also the Kinsey scale.

The logic behind it is they like being sexually pleased by another person and it doesn't matter what gender that person is because they just like being sexually stimulated, they don't care about social norms. I never said it was good logic, I just threw it out there. I asked the question because I didn't already knew the answer, if I did I wouldn't have brought it up and embarrassed myself.

I've never heard of bisexuallity reaching beyond just sexuality though. I don't associate bisexuality with love like I do homosexuality because I've rarely heard it talked about in that way. From what is expressed in (some) parts of American culture, gay people are sexually attracted to one another AND love eachother. Bisexuality just seems like a lust thing.

I'm wondering perhaps if a bisexual on this board or someone who just knows a bit more on the subject than I do can explain that to me.

 

[Lemurnator]

 

[Star Power]

It burns.

 

[Lemurnator]

I don't want to drift too far off topic what what is it about me exactly that you don't like?

 

[Star Power]

Nothing, I just felt like posting that image. Don't mind me. I'll be taking my leave now.

 

[maharg]

I've never heard of bisexuallity reaching beyond just sexuality though. I don't associate bisexuality with love like I do homosexuality because I've rarely heard it talked about in that way. From what is expressed in (some) parts of American culture, gay people are sexually attracted to one another AND love eachother. Bisexuality just seems like a lust thing.

This is just plain wrong. If it were the case, the implication would be that bisexual people never fall in love, which is absurd. The logic you're using is a classic argument that used to be often applied to gay people as well (essentially stemming the idea that all sex that does not stem from desire for reproduction is pure lust).

What I'm challenging you to do here is to examine the reasons you came to that conclusion and figure out for yourself why it makes no sense. When you figure out where you made a leap that can't be substantiated, you'll understand a lot more about where your ideas come from.

 

[Lemurnator]

This is just plain wrong. If it were the case, the implication would be that bisexual people never fall in love

With people of same gender.

 

[maharg]

Now explain why that logical divide makes any sense at all.

 

[Lemurnator]

This is just plain wrong. If it were the case, the implication would be that bisexual people never fall in love, which is absurd. The logic you're using is a classic argument that used to be often applied to gay people as well (essentially stemming the idea that all sex that does not stem from desire for reproduction is pure lust).

What I'm challenging you to do here is to examine the reasons you came to that conclusion and figure out for yourself why it makes no sense. When you figure out where you made a leap that can't be substantiated, you'll understand a lot more about where your ideas come from.

Hey dumbfuck, look at the part of my post with the question marks.

I'm asking a question and offering my input for others to help correct or build an answer onto to prevent getting answers to questions I didn't ask.

Asking a question with open minded input, not making a statement. Either you just like to be offended or are unfamiliar with the question mark. Fucking hypersensitive asshole.

 

[whytemyke]

i think that most people use it as a fad attention-getter. I'm not saying that it doesn't exist in some people who truly are capable of seeing beauty in either gender, regardless of their own.... just that in most cases it seems to be a fad thing. I can't tell you how many chicks I know who say they're bi just to get attention.

Cuz we all know that once a chick says she's bi, every guy automatically thinks he's gonna have a 3 way with her and her best friend who models for Playboy.

 

[maharg]

:lol

 

[Lemurnator]

Stop breathing.

 

[Willco]

It must be a slow day at the house.

 

[totoro'd]

 

[Lemurnator]

It must be a slow day at the house.

At my aunts house, and yeah it is.

I'm on a Simpsons binge. ALL SECOND SEASON IN ONE SITTING!

 

[siege]

I know someone who claims he is bisexual and I've asked him about it before. He claims to have no attraction to men at all, it's purely sexual. He just enjoys pleasuring and being pleasured by both genders. He's able to have a relationship with a woman, but at the same time have sex with a man. Again, there is no attraction or feeling for the man what so ever.

 

[teh_pwn]

My guess is that it's genetic. This is why the argument

"if gay people are genetically that way then why haven't they died out? They should have. BY THE FIST OF GOD I SHALL SMITE THEM!"

doesn't work IMO. Because it's not an on/off thing. There's much grey to it.


Edit:

http://www.lgbtcampus.org/resources/training/kinsey_scale.html

If the source is correct, in Kinsey's time there were a considerable amount of bis. This site suggests somewhere between 18-37% of the men were bisexuals.

 

[pollo]

my girlfriend told me back in the 8th grade when she went through her "gangster" phrase 4 8th grade guys butt fucked each other to prove they were men ala the greeks.

funniest shit ive ever heard of in my life :lol

 

[p_xavier]

My guess is that it's genetic. This is why the argument

"if gay people are genetically that way then why haven't they died out? They should have. BY THE FIST OF GOD I SHALL SMITE THEM!"

doesn't work IMO. Because it's not an on/off thing. There's much grey to it.

Look up the Kinsey scale.

It's the same thing as a left-handed person, it's genetic but it can skips generations.

 

[Lemurnator]

Or it can be a recessive trait like my cf. I have several siblings and I'm the only one with CF but both my parents carry the cf gene. Maybe gayness is like that too.

 

[aoi tsuki]

Bisexuality just seems like a lust thing.

A lot of people say the same about homosexuals.

On a side note, i think it's interesting and sad that when someone is homosexual (gays especially), people think that they want to fuck everyone of the gender their attracted to. Not the same for us straights.

On the note of bi guys, here's a story from a blog i read some time ago:

I had two groups of friends, a gay group (due to a longtime friend "coming out") and a straight group. One night a little before I met She Said, both groups were sitting at a bar together. A chance meeting between two groups turned into a dozen people getting very drunk together. I was catching comments on the edges of the conversations though, disparaging comments coming from both directions. I thought we were all modern urban hipsters, we all could handle it. Then I went home with my friend __________ (the one with the HUGE cock), and half-knew we were going to end up in bed. And we did. We fucked until we passed out, and then got up in the morning and fucked again. I gave him a ride home and walked him hand in hand up to his step. It was broad daylight and the city sidewalk was full of people going to work but I didn't care so I we hugged and kissed in front of the world, just two friends who had a nice one night stand.

Word got around to both groups, but I was cool with the shit I was going to get. I always wanted to have sex with a guy when the chance came up. I was good looking and single and I'm glad it was with who it was with.

Then shit hit the fan. From every direction.

My gay friends called me names and accused me of "slumming" and "exercising straight privilege", whatever that means. My straight friends abandoned me, just stopped calling and stopped returning calls. I lost a dozen friends because I fucked another man. Was it worth it? No. Hell no. Not even close. I still burn inside with rage thinking about it.

And to this day if I saw any of those ignorant bigoted fuckers, both straight and gay, I would not hesitate one second to spit right in their fucking face. Friends don't delete their friends from their lives because of sexual choices. The only one I am still friends with is the friend who I had sex with, and we hooked up a few times afterwards (I still dream sometimes of sucking his cock) but nothing was the same.

Moral of the story? No matter how cool and accepting and progressive you think your friends are, watch your step. Some two-faced fuckers (straight or gay) will drop you if you scare them. They think that you want to fuck them, so they vanish. It hurts. It hurts bad enough that there have been times years later that I cried my eyes out about it, and I'm the kind of person who could get their arm cut off and not cry. I'm a tough motherfucker, but the heart can be surprisingly weak when friends decide to shit on you. It makes you question yourself over and over and over.

 

[nitewulf]

it would really depend if both chicks are hot.

heh.

eh, i dont know how to answer this question. i know i have a thing for aesthetics, and thus i like pretty guys. and i have also noticed nowadays "pretty" is in. guys wear tight jeans, they walk with a bit of a sway, and they wear purses. and they have the emo hair. most of these guys arent actually gay in any way, yet they act very feminine. i think its that feminine nature that attracts me, along with the aesthetics. they even talk pretty. i just bumped into a guy (not on purpose) at this concert the other day, and he was so soft about it, like held my hand and said, "oh i am so sorry" with such a soft gesture. i cant help but being attracted!
yet i dont find effeminate gay men or most men attractive at all.
and i know i love women. i mean, hell, i'm hitting on women every opportunity i get. this weekend i almost got a glass of wine thrown at me (in a joking manner) because i jokingly propositioned a girl for sex in exchange for money. well it goes deeper than that, she knows i find her attractive, and she has a boyfriend, and she is going to harvard yaddi yadda.
so the thing is, i think due to my sexual desires, i can actually overlook the sex of my partner, as long as i feel i am being wanted, and i find the other person's aesthetics appealing.
this is a big admission.
i know i am not gay, i dont know if i can be classified as bisexual, just take it as you will.

 

[p_xavier]

A lot of people say the same about homosexuals.

On a side note, i think it's interesting and sad that when someone is homosexual (gays especially), people think that they want to fuck everyone of the gender their attracted to. Not the same for us straights.

I knew many "bisexuals", but they changed to being "gay" after 3-4 years. True bisexuality is rare. Many guys fuck other guys, but have girlfriends; it's only because they are to afraid to coming out. Doing psychology work with teens and adults points to me that bisexuality is just an insecurity.

 

[teh_pwn]

Care to back that up?

Kinsey's work shows that 4-6% of his test subjects were a 6, and 12-14% were a 3-5.

 

[p_xavier]

Care to back that up?

Kinsey's work shows that 4-6% of his test subjects were a 6, and 12-14% were a 3-5.

I only work a gay distress center for a few months, and I'm an electrical engineer, so I'm really not the best in psychology. But concrete research on bisexualty is really hard, in the sense that it's not fully accepted to be gay yet. I've sleeped with many guys who you would considered bisexual, but the fact is many told me they could never tell their parents, or it would harm them in their jobs. So is that bisexuality, or simply a fear to go through our feelings?

I sleeped with a few girls, but only because I wanted to have sex with someone, not because they were girls in the first place. Does that make me bisexual? I don't think so, I was thinking of guys the whole time.

 

[nitewulf]

damn, its got to have something to do with engineering!
i think i just found the correlation. :lol

 

[btf1980]

Bi-sexual men are just men in denial of their gayness. They are gay, flat out. Where i'm from, there is no in between. I don't care how many chicks you've boinked, once you start playing hide the salami up the hershey highway, you're done. You're gay and that's that. If you disagree with this, then look in the mirror, see that reflection in the mirror? You're gay!!!

 

[p_xavier]

Bi-sexual men are just men in denial of their gayness. They are gay, flat out. Where i'm from, there is no in between. I don't care how many chicks you've boinked, once you start playing hide the salami up the hershey highway, you're done. You're gay and that's that. If you disagree with this, then look in the mirror, see that reflection in the mirror? You're gay!!!

Well, if peer pressure is present, you can act on it. I know a guy whose mother wanted a gay son so badly, he tried it once even if he was straight. It's the same thing with bisexual women I thin, peer pressure had them hooked.

 

[nitewulf]

I know a guy whose mother wanted a gay son so badly, he tried it once even if he was straight.

what

 

[FoneBone]

An insane amount of ignorance in this thread. Especially from btf1980.

 

[p_xavier]

what

Well, I lived in Québec, so the place is really female-centred, and many women here prefer to have gay sons, because they dress better, don't have daughters in law, and can go shopping with them...

Yes, it's stupid.

 

[teh_pwn]

haha

:lol

 

[nitewulf]

Well, I lived in Québec, so the place is really female-centred, and many women here prefer to have gay sons, because they dress better, don't have daughters in law, and can go shopping with them...

Yes, it's stupid.

uhhh....sorry i asked.
well, canada...go figure.

 

[Koshiba]

Eh.. I guess bisexuality is different for alot of people. For me, I'm bisexual for the most part. I'm attracted to both male and female. But in a way, when in a relationship, I don't exactly consider myself to be completely bisexual. Since I choose to be with only one person, meaning I should really only be interested in just that person. So depending on if that person is male or female..

As for the whole "cool thing", I've been bisexual for as long as I can remember. I stopped going to school in the 7th grade also so I'm not too sure about how bad the whole "it's cool to be bi" thing is now. Though I did see it a bit back then too. Alot of bisexual people I've noticed felt it was right to be with both a guy and a girl at once but hey, that's just not me.

 

[btf1980]

An insane amount of ignorance in this thread. Especially from btf1980.

Take note of this guys username "FoneBone". Yup, he is "TEH GAY" errrr "Bi-sexual". :lol

This is a public announcement to all the "bi" guys, just accept yourself for who you are. There's no in between, either you suck dick or you don't. Once you've been sexually involved with a cock other than your own, yup...you are gay.

 

[btf1980]

Well, if peer pressure is present, you can act on it. I know a guy whose mother wanted a gay son so badly, he tried it once even if he was straight. It's the same thing with bisexual women I thin, peer pressure had them hooked.

Peer pressure for sodomy? I call bullshit....anyone who gives into that wanted it in the first place.

 

[nitewulf]

tread carefully dude, this place is VERY gay friendly.

 

[human5892]

HAHA TAKE THAT FONEBONER

 

[teh_pwn]

Junior member alert.

 

[Mike Works]

uhhh....sorry i asked.
well, canada...go figure.

Quebec.

Not Canada.

Quebec.

 

[btf1980]

tread carefully dude, this place is VERY gay friendly.

Who said I wasn't "gay friendly"? I just think bi-sexual guys are gay guys in denial. That means i'm unfriendly to gays? Give me a break.

 

[nitewulf]

well you made fun of a respected member, and you are making blanket statements without proof. yes, you can think whatever you want, but you are making statements without proof nonetheless, in a forcefull manner. and in effect, mocking bisexuals. because your tone regarding homosexuals is obviously not flattering.
personally i dont care, so i didnt reply to you.
but you should tread carefully for those specified reasons, mods dont like that stuff around here.