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Blizzard confirms 'Titan' as their new MMO.

Zzoram

Member
hamchan said:
WoW can survive with its dated graphics because of its wonderful art. The game looks quite amazing at times.

It's not just the art that makes dated WoW graphics work. It's low system requirements so anyone who wants to play can do it.
 

Akia

Member
charlequin said:
It's also worth noting that shortly after this chart was rumored to have leaked out of China, the general manager of Blizzard's China business was fired for breach of confidentiality.

Interesting
 
Zzoram said:
To make a new IP their next expensive MMO is quite the gamble for a company with 3 franchises that are perhaps the largest in the PC world.

It makes more sense to design a new IP from the ground up around the MMO gameplay they want to implement than it does to make some random unrelated game, hope it takes off, and then spin the MMO they really wanted to make off from that.
 

GDJustin

stuck my tongue deep inside Atlus' cookies
Zzoram said:
It's not just the art that makes dated WoW graphics work. It's low system requirements so anyone who wants to play can do it.

I play WoW decently well on a Mac laptop from March 2006, with sliders set to medium/low. Get about ~20 FPS, which is jarring at first but now I don't notice.

For me, WoW & blizzard win by default. There are no other MMOs that are this playable on my system.

Even more amazingly, SC2 runs on this machine, too. I nearly couldn't believe it.
 

Talon

Member
ZealousD said:
If I had to hazard as guess as to what Starcraft Phoenix is, I think it might be a remake of the Starcraft 1 campaign using the SC2 engine. Probably rerecord lines from the new voice actors and release it as a $60 campaign or something.
Fixed.
 

jambo

Member
Fredescu said:
Common sense like LOTRO dropping subs and making more revenue as a result? That sort of common sense?
That's all well and good, but Blizzard customers are already ok with paying sub fees so Blizzard will keep charging monthly.
 

Fredescu

Member
jambo said:
That's all well and good, but Blizzard customers are already ok with paying sub fees so Blizzard will keep charging monthly.
I'm fairly sure they're not aiming this game at "Blizzard customers".
 
jambo said:
That's all well and good, but Blizzard customers are already ok with paying sub fees so Blizzard will keep charging monthly.

considering wow was originally going to be free to play, I think they'll take the opportunity to explore it this time around.
 
les papillons sexuels said:
considering wow was originally going to be free to play, I think they'll take the opportunity to explore it this time around.
That was before they knew that they would have more subscribers then every other mmo combined.
 

Zzoram

Member
There is nothing wrong with a subscription if they do a lot of content updates between expansions and offer a good service constantly upgraded, and Blizzard does do that with WoW. You certainly get your money's worth. For the cost of a movie ticket and popcorn, you can play WoW even 10 hours a month and feel like it was money well spent.
 

Stahsky

A passionate embrace, a beautiful memory lingers.
Fredescu said:
I'm fairly sure they're not aiming this game at "Blizzard customers".


What does this even mean? Of course they would. Why would any company outright not try and appeal to their entire audience plus a new one?

And subs are coming. F2P is the backdoor plan. They can get away with subscriptions, so they'll do it.
 

Fredescu

Member
EvaPlusMinus said:
What does this even mean? Of course they would. Why would any company outright not try and appeal to their entire audience plus a new one?
It means that they're not specifically targeting WoW, Starcraft 2, or Diablo 3 players. They've even said they're looking for a "broader audience". This means that the payment habits of WoW players will be irrelevant to their decision as to whether they go with paid subs or not.
 

J-Rzez

Member
Gaylord Sweetwood said:
They will need to overhaul the WoW Graphics Engine if they want the game to continue on. Adding new water textures will not cut it come 2013.

I agree, but I don't expect them to do the massively needed overhaul. It looks long in the tooth now, it did for a couple years now. But there will obviously be a large difference in engine quality when Titan does launch compared to what WoW will be (it's been out forever), so they really need to take a hard look at the engine in WoW, especially to have them both co-exist like they're claiming.
 
darkpaladinmfc said:
blizzard-product-slate-leaked.jpg


Diablo III and Heart of the Swarm seem to be planned for late 2011, at least one of them is bound to get delayed. Also, Titan and the fifth WoW expansion in the same quarter means it is likely Titan will be veeeery different to WoW.

WoW mobile?
 

itxaka

Defeatist
Then, 2 wow expansions on the same year? That doesn't sound right no?

Maybe the first one is a complete redo of the world again to update outlands and northrend up to date with the cataclysm? And the second a real expansion?

I guess they only got the titans left as an arch enemy for the game as I can't point any other enemies that can up deathwind destroying all azeroth :lol


Edit, delete that, it's wow movie on the same year, not an expansion.
 

Stahsky

A passionate embrace, a beautiful memory lingers.
Fredescu said:
It means that they're not specifically targeting WoW, Starcraft 2, or Diablo 3 players. They've even said they're looking for a "broader audience". This means that the payment habits of WoW players will be irrelevant to their decision as to whether they go with paid subs or not.


Broader does not equal not aiming for the blizzard audience. One cannot assume new payment options simply because they are looking for a broader group.


Anyways, we've got what, three bits of info on this? That it's a new IP, has a broader audience goal, and has a codename. It's a shame we won't see anything on this for a long time now.
 

Luigiv

Member
darkpaladinmfc said:
blizzard-product-slate-leaked.jpg


Diablo III and Heart of the Swarm seem to be planned for late 2011, at least one of them is bound to get delayed. Also, Titan and the fifth WoW expansion in the same quarter means it is likely Titan will be veeeery different to WoW.
Wait a moment... WOW movie?...

If that's being done by their internal CG team then HELL TO THE FUCKING YEAH!
 

StuBurns

Banned
Luigiv said:
Wait a moment... WOW movie?...

If that's being done by their internal CG team then HELL TO THE FUCKING YEAH!
That's not a secret, and no, live action.

EDIT: Unless that was a joke, in that case, nice one.
 

wwm0nkey

Member
Luigiv said:
Wait a moment... WOW movie?...

If that's being done by their internal CG team then HELL TO THE FUCKING YEAH!
Its a Live-action movie about Arthas leading up to the events of him becoming the Lich King.
 

Luigiv

Member
StuBurns said:
live action.
wwm0nkey said:
Live-action

:'(

Anyway wasn't meant to be a joke or implying it was some sort of sercret, it was just the first that I had personally heard of it so I had to say something (somehow missed it the first time I saw that image :lol).
 

Zizbuka

Banned
Yoshichan said:
This is exactly what Blizzard should NOT be concentrating on.

Their trio is something you do not want to fuck with. Just leave it alone, Blizzard.

Yeah, next thing they'll take one of their flawless trio and turn it into a MMO..........
 

Fredescu

Member
EvaPlusMinus said:
Broader does not equal not aiming for the blizzard audience. One cannot assume new payment options simply because they are looking for a broader group.
It doesn't and you can't. Not what I was saying.
 

StuBurns

Banned
Luigiv said:
:'(

Anyway wasn't meant to be a joke or implying it was some sort of sercret, it was just the first that I had personally heard of it so I had to say something (somehow missed it the first time I saw that image :lol).
I was just covering my back for an embarrassing post in retrospect. I was surprised someone who would be interested in a WoW movie wouldn't have also heard they were making one if that makes sense.

They're been working on it for a while. It's a serious budget major production, I wouldn't give up hope just yet, they're taking is mad serious.
 

zombieshavebrains

I have not used cocaine
wwm0nkey said:
Its a Live-action movie about Arthas leading up to the events of him becoming the Lich King.

So its a Warcraft III movie...

And Blizzard has a lot of the genres nailed. Sci-fi=Starcraft. High fantasy=Warcraft. Dark almost medieval=Diablo. What genre can Titan be?
 

V_Arnold

Member
SalsaShark said:
but i mean going by my calculations they already have all the money that exists in the world

right ?


i mean this is just greedy

Yeah, fuck them for trying to develop even mor awesome games. So horrible, greedy.
 

Dynoro

Member
zombieshavebrains said:
So its a Warcraft III movie...

And Blizzard has a lot of the genres nailed. Sci-fi=Starcraft. High fantasy=Warcraft. Dark almost medieval=Diablo. What genre can Titan be?
Modern Warfare crossover?
I sure hope not - please don't let Activision near this
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
voltron said:
Blizzard confirm a new MMO and this thread is barely 2 pages?

/confused

We already knew they were making a 2nd one for years. This thread just reconfirm it for the 10th time with some codename that means nothing.
 

Luigiv

Member
StuBurns said:
I was just covering my back for an embarrassing post in retrospect. I was surprised someone who would be interested in a WoW movie wouldn't have also heard they were making one if that makes sense.

They're been working on it for a while. It's a serious budget major production, I wouldn't give up hope just yet, they're taking is mad serious.
Oh that's because I have no interest in a WoW movie at all. What I'm interested in is this stretched out to a feature length (which isn't going to happen by the looks of it).
 

hiryu

Member
I highly doubt this is a first person shooter MMO. The two main developers on the WOW team left it to start working on Titan and neither one has any experience with first person shooters.
 

Scrow

Still Tagged Accordingly
hiryu said:
I highly doubt this is a first person shooter MMO. The two main developers on the WOW team left it to start working on Titan and neither one has any experience with first person shooters.
pretty sure it has been confirmed a while ago, by blizzard staff that it is in fact an FPS

their previous experience doesn't necessarily confirm anything one way or another.
 

Painraze

Unconfirmed Member
hiryu said:
I highly doubt this is a first person shooter MMO. The two main developers on the WOW team left it to start working on Titan and neither one has any experience with first person shooters.

Also, the early builds of Titan used the WoW engine. Hardly an engine to start with if you are making a first person shooter.
 

Scrow

Still Tagged Accordingly
Painraze said:
Also, the early builds of Titan used the WoW engine. Hardly an engine to start with if you are making a first person shooter.
have you seen the different gameplay and mechanics WoW is capable of? no reason they couldn't use it for early prototypes.
 

Bisnic

Really Really Exciting Member!
There is one WoW quest in particular in Uldum where you are on a plane, and are basically in first person mode, and you gotta shoot down enemies with your machine gun.
 
EvaPlusMinus said:
What does this even mean? Of course they would. Why would any company outright not try and appeal to their entire audience plus a new one?

And subs are coming. F2P is the backdoor plan. They can get away with subscriptions, so they'll do it.
they've seen that most people only play one MMO at a time. if they aim Titan at their WoW audience they just self cannibalise. if they aim it at people that aren't playing WoW, then they grow their audience with less self cannibalisation.

the problem with MMO FPS is demonstrating what you get for your extra money. FPS have free to play mid scale games with stat tracking etc. RPGs didn't have that when the MMO thing started.

planetside was a good game, but it failed.

RPGs aren't as much about individual egos. you often have a team of characters. people that like them often come from a D+D background and are used to not being THE hero.

that's a big problem with MMO and the FPS crowd, and i say this as someone that loves FPS and not MMOs. FPS games are often called 'ego' shooters for a reason. people that play them (even online) all want to be 'THE' guy. the guy that wins. the guy that saves the universe, and how do you pull that off in an MMO?
 

Draft

Member
Hmm.

Blizz might be victims of their own success here. WoW was Everquest distilled and refined, dare I say, perfected. What will be Blizzard's "inspiration" for Titan? WoW killed the MMO market.
 

webrunner

Member
zombieshavebrains said:
So its a Warcraft III movie...

And Blizzard has a lot of the genres nailed. Sci-fi=Starcraft. High fantasy=Warcraft. Dark almost medieval=Diablo. What genre can Titan be?

Ancient Greek noir.


Anyway, there were some rumors about an online version of the wow TCG floating around (before the grid leak), so it's probably that.
 

ahoyhoy

Unconfirmed Member
hiryu said:
I highly doubt this is a first person shooter MMO. The two main developers on the WOW team left it to start working on Titan and neither one has any experience with first person shooters.

Yeah, cuz they brought on the entire original Planetside team to help with development

/end dream
 
Draft said:
Hmm.

Blizz might be victims of their own success here. WoW was Everquest distilled and refined, dare I say, perfected. What will be Blizzard's "inspiration" for Titan? WoW killed the MMO market.
it could be planetside, but you have to do something to appeal to the FPS crowd.

still with levelling for equipment etc now something even mainstream FPS players are used to, perhaps people would be more open to an MMOFPS now than they were in 2003... but i just don't think that FPS players are on average hardcore enough to want to pay a monthly sub.

it's always been a much more casual genre.
 

Scrow

Still Tagged Accordingly
plagiarize said:
they've seen that most people only play one MMO at a time.
for this reason alone, when blizz says Titan is a "casual" MMO, i think they really mean it. i think blizz's strategy will be to make it so that Titan is an MMO you can play while also still playing your "main mmo", which of course Blizz will hope is WoW.

i could see Titan being as casual as, i dunno... Team Fortress 2. The sort of game you can jump in and out of and still get heaps of entertainment in those short bursts.

it's also for this reason that i suspect Titan will be F2P. blizz are not going to expect people to pay a subcription fee for WoW and Titan.

but there's an alternative i've imagined. I could see Blizz doing something a little different. Perhaps they will roll the subscriptions fees for their MMOs into one payment and charge a subscription fee for the Battle.net service instead of each game individually. The battle.net subscription can include WoW time and Titan time.

So, for example, lets say you've just bought your first Blizz game, Diablo III. You create a battle.net account to play D3 and it costs you nothing to do so, other than the price of the game itself. Eventually Titan comes out and you buy that, your second blizz game. Now you pay $14.99 a month on your battle.net service to play Titan. If you ever cancel the subscription, battle.net is free again but you can't play Titan until you resubscribe. Then you decide to see what all the fuss was about with WoW all those years ago. You buy WoW and once again pay $14.99 a month on your battle.net account to play WoW. Eventually you decide you want to play WoW and Titan, so you reactive the Titan subscription. Now you pay $22.99 a month, which allows you to play both WoW and Titan, but you're getting the second MMO at half-price subscription (only paying $8 more per month for it). Cancel either one of the MMOs and it drops back down to $14.99 a month.

Perhaps in the future blizz releases a third MMO and you want to play all three. With all three MMOs activated the price of the battle.net subscription goes up to $26.99 (you're only paying $4 more per month for this new MMO). After a few months you're completely burnt out on Blizz's MMOs and you decide to cancel ALL subscriptions. The cost of your battle.net service drops to $0 per month again and you decide to pickup the new Diablo expansion pack, which has no subscription fee.

it's a kind of scaling subscription model for multiple MMOs, with each new MMO added to your subscription getting cheaper. Customers aren't paying through the nose for subscriptions, blizzard gets more money. everyone is happy.
 
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