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[OrlanisWorks]

You could help the community in ways of volunteering and donations, with peaceful demonstrations too. Plenty of things that can slowly help improve things.

Ooooooor you could go harass people trying to educate themselves in a library, being an asshole and stroking your ego, thinking you're fighting the good fight.

E: I'm purposefully avoiding considering them legit BLM. I don't think there would be general endorsement of this kind of activity.

 

[JDSN]

In that case I'll wait for evidence before holding BLM to task for this. I know a lot of people, and I mean A LOT, even people here on this forum, who would love to take the opportunity to make negative reports about BLM that didn't actually happen.

I knew the OP seemed familiar.

Pretty horrible if true, some of the stuff sounds straight up assault.

 

[Slayven]

But this is what people will see and hear about the most. This only hurts them and someone with influence in the movement needs to stop it somehow.

It only hurts them in the eys of people who already have a bias against them.

The "See I was about to value black lives, but then this happens. So fuck black people" people.

 

[RyanW]

So the original article is pretty clear. Unless there is a different version of events presented by the BLM side. This is the only account of it we have on record.

Surely there are security cameras set up in the library? May not have sound but at least from there we can see how aggressive they were

 

[Croatoan]

Aren't they being just as racist as the people they claim are racist? I mean, just assuming a white person is racist because they are white is...racist.

I don't understand what they hope to come out of this. Yelling obscenities at people, in a library of all places, does nothing to help your cause and only paints your organization in a negative light.

That they attacked college students, who tend to be fairly progressive, is odd too. Are we sure this is a real BLM group?

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

The racial tirade from the BLM could've been something where they weren't being serious. They were pretty much flipping roles, but I dunno. I guess we need more contex.

Or maybe they weren't really BLM members?

 

[superdeluxe]

I thought the Dartmouth Review was a legit student newspaper sourcing all this, but the website is dead and they have like 3k followers on twitter. Massive grain of salt with all those quotes.

You are going to use a website being down and the number of twitter followers they have to call in question if that is the student run college paper?

 

[adj_noun]

Surely there are security cameras set up in the library?

Maybe, maybe not. It's not exactly a universal thing as far as I know.

Even when they're there, sometimes they're just for show.

 

[Kinyou]

Wonder what the librarians did.

Probably rolled up in a fetal position.

 

[marrec]

So along with the tone of the original article and this Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dartmouth_Review

I think we can safely say that the source for all this is absolutely biased. Based on video evidence of the protests and what little I can find on social media, I haven't seen anything to prove the physical violence or the repeated verbal harassment that the original article claims.

 

[zeemumu]

The conspiracy theorist in me wants to believe that someone paid off a bunch of people to announce that they were part of BLM and gain negative publicity.

 

[GnawtyDog]

It only hurts them in the eys of people who already have a bias against them.

The "See I was about to value black lives, but then this happens. So fuck black people" people.

It hurts them in that sense but it also hurts them in other ways. They "appear to be disorganized", "leaderless" and have "no idea of what targets to pick". Add the "slurs" into the mix, that's no way to help your cause. Next thing you know they'll crash a wedding. but but.... it will only hurt them with people who are already biased... smh.

 

[Pai Pai Master]

This would be incredibly shitty of them but there's not a lot of corroborating sources

 

[BennyBlanco]

Or maybe they weren't really BLM members?

What exactly is a BLM member? It's a hashtag. It's not like they have membership cards and a hierarchy. Similar to OWS.

 

[Shao Kahn on the Lawn]

It only hurts them in the eys of people who already have a bias against them.

The "See I was about to value black lives, but then this happens. So fuck black people" people.

Not really. One can simultaneously hold the belief that there is something truly wrong about how frequently and systematically black people are brutalized at the hands of police while also believing that BLM is squandering its opportunity to make a substantive impact by succumbing to unforced errors.

It's no different than believing that income inequality is out of control in the United States while being critical of the way OWS was managed.

What exactly is a BLM member? It's a hashtag. It's not like they have membership cards and a hierarchy. Similar to OWS.

Perhaps that's part of the problem. Whenever you have a decentralized and unofficial power structure you run the risk of people behaving poorly under the shadow of your banner yet you can't say they're not a member because membership is so poorly defined.

 

[ISWThunder]

Wait, Beats are a symbol of oppression? Is the weight of a billion dollars slowly crushing Dr Dre?

 

[DietRob]

But this is what people will see and hear about the most. This only hurts them and someone with influence in the movement needs to stop it somehow.

I'm doubting that this really happened. Even if it didn't people opposing BLM will run with it.

 

[Jason's Ultimatum]

What exactly is a BLM member? It's a hashtag. It's not like they have membership cards and a hierarchy. Similar to OWS.

Not really familar with the group. I was originally going to use the word protester.

 

[LiquidSword]

So along with the tone of the original article and this Wikipedia article:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dartmouth_Review

I think we can safely say that the source for all this is absolutely biased. Based on video evidence of the protests and what little I can find on social media, I haven't seen anything to prove the physical violence or the repeated verbal harassment that the original article claims.

Yep pretty much. People will still only read the op though and write their paragraph about how BLM are the real racists lol

 

[marrec]

Wait, Beats are a symbol of oppression? Is the weight of a billion dollars slowly crushing Dr Dre?

The only person saying that so far is the writer of the original article on the Dartmouth Review and it isn't sourced or in quotes at all.

So... no?

 

[Jawbreaker]

Let's wait for the facts.

 

[Slayven]

It hurts them in that sense but it also hurts them in other ways. They appear to be disorganized, leaderless and have no idea of what targets to pick. Next thing you know they'll crash a wedding.

Once again only appears to people who don't care. And only get thier news from fox, breitbart, and CNN.

BLM pretty much is doing good things around the country everyday, but the news ain't going to cover that.

 

[Kenstar]

BLM came into my yard and punched my dog in the face true story see more at http://www.LIEberalsaretheDevil.org...;_Want_To_Kill_All_Whites_AND_THEIR_DOGS.html

 

[KadeYuy]

Must have been a real awkward moment for the students having sex in the stacks.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Well this seems horribly misguided.

 

[DonasaurusRex]

The facade is crumbling, they can't even stay consistent, whoever backs them must be near finished with using those assholes.

 

[Prime crotch]

The racewars are coming!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zsem2M_eCxw

 

[GnawtyDog]

Once again only appears to people who don't care. And only get thier news from fox, breitbart, and CNN.

BLM pretty much is doing good things around the country everyday, but the news ain't going to cover that.

Par for the course - in the 60s it was practically the same in the South. More reason to avoid messing up. Conservative media is not going to give the movement an inch, but war. And "liberal media" will only get behind it if it has some sort of structure and organization they can feel safe about getting behind. I am not sure BLM provides that. That's just the reality.

 

[-COOLIO-]

The racial tirade from the BLM could've been something where they weren't being serious. They were pretty much flipping roles, but I dunno. I guess we need more contex.

Or maybe they weren't really BLM members?

I don't like there's any kind of vetting process for being a member. Hashtag activism is actually a pretty cool thing but the downside is that anyone can misrepresent the cause. At the end of the day, you can really only judge such a movement by it's vocal majority.

 

[marrec]

Once again only appears to people who don't care. And only get thier news from fox, breitbart, and CNN.

BLM pretty much is doing good things around the country everyday, but the news ain't going to cover that.

More to the point, there were multiple protests going on at Dartmouth the entire day that only get briefly mentioned in the original article (and not at all elsewhere) and it seems that this incident involved a small number of the previous protesters breaking off and going into the library.

Also, all evidence we have points to them simply being disruptive in the library, not violent or verbally abusive.

 

[Veritigo_X]

thier facade is crumbling, they can't even stay consistent, whoever backs them must be near finished with using those assholes.

This is one small group of people part of a much larger movement. Plus, we don't know how true it is since the source is pretty suspect as pointed out above. But go ahead and use this as an example of BLM "crumbling."

 

[Vanillalite]

 

[bishoptl]

The Washington Times? I'll wait for corroboration from a better news source, thanks.

 

[anaron]

I hope the larger BLM movement denounces these losers. These individuals are doing a crap job in representing a legitimately great message and cause with this.

 

[Dennis]

Protesters reportedly shouted “F– you, you filthy white f–-” “f– you and your comfort” and “f– you, you racist s–.”

Great way to make allies there.

"One woman was reportedly pinned to a wall by protesters who shouted “filthy white b–-” in her face."

wtfff

If true, I would assume this is stuff that could get you expelled?

 

[B-Dubs]

The Washington Times? I'll wait for corroboration from a better news source, thanks.

Exactly. The Washington Times is a rag that isn't worth the paper it's printed on. Even buying it as toilet paper would be a waste of money. I have no idea how this isn't a banned source on GAF all things considered.

 

[888]

Not in jail? Since when can you crash a library at a university shouting slurs?

I guess given the numbers of the group in this specific incident, unless cops were there on the spot that's practically impossible. Since well, if I have to take a guess, not all engaged in such act?

Right. I guess they don't respect Safe Spaces..

I didn't hear any slurs but you can barely hear anything over the chanting. I agree with others. This only acts as an irritant to people who may otherwise be on board with your cause.

 

[Veritigo_X]

The Washington Times? I'll wait for corroboration from a better news source, thanks.

Won't stop the usual suspects from jumping at it like it's gospel.

 

[Kid Kamikaze10]

What exactly is a BLM member? It's a hashtag. It's not like they have membership cards and a hierarchy. Similar to OWS.

BLM is actually an organization. It was one before it was a hashtag. There are founders and multiple chapters in different states.

 

[quesalupa]

Not all BLM

There's gotta be a better way to phrase that.

 

[GnawtyDog]

Right. I guess they don't respect Safe Spaces..

I didn't hear any slurs but you can barely hear anything over the chanting. I agree with others. This only acts as an irritant to people who may otherwise be on board with your cause.

Edit: NVM, there is a video...

 

[DietRob]

There's gotta be a better way to phrase that.

Yea, now that I read it there certainly must be.

doh..

 

[-COOLIO-]

BLM is actually an organization. It was one before it was a hashtag. And there are founders and multiple chapters in different states

Legitimately didn't know it was organization before it was a hashtag.

 

[spock]

Video showed nothing that was claimed. Hopefully its a bunch of nonsense and not true. However I do wonder why protest there? Seems like you could find places that make more sense to protest at then the Dartmouth library, unless it was convenience thing, lol.

 

[Shao Kahn on the Lawn]

I hope the larger BLM movement denounces these losers. These individuals are doing a crap job in representing a legitimately great message and cause with this.

I imagine they're doing what we're doing here in that they're trying to piece together whether or not there's any truth to the accusations. The video didn't show any of what was claimed but it didn't show the entire event either.

 

[MikeDown]

at first I read the title wondering why people would be protesting the Bureau of Land Management

 

[Tertullian]

I thought the Dartmouth Review was a legit student newspaper sourcing all this, but the website is dead and they have like 3k followers on twitter. Massive grain of salt with all those quotes.

The Dartmouth Review has a long Wikipedia article. The Controversies section is... interesting and relevant.

 

[marrec]

I actually have very little doubts that some angry protesters were probably more verbally offensive than what had been heard earlier in the day. However to use what was a short incident involving a very small number of protesters at the end of a long day of protesting to write an article that ends thusly:

Open eyes and attuned minds will let us spot the difference between legitimate efforts to spark racial progress, and outbursts of the aimless antipathy that dozens of our peers of all races were subjected to.

Is pretty fucking shady.

Looking through their "Latest" articles, there is only ONE on the protests and it's this one. The whole thing is laden with barely concealed contempt for the BLM movement and social progress as an idea.

So yes, if someone was verbally abusing other students for their seeming apathy toward the protests, they should be chastised... but luckily the BLM movement and the movement for social progress is about more than just individual protesters making white people feel uncomfortable... even if Dartmouth Review refuses to acknowledge that fact.

 

[RPGCrazied]

Yeah, flipping off the camera, that is going to help matters.

I would have just left the room if I was there.

 

[GnawtyDog]

The Washington Times? I'll wait for corroboration from a better news source, thanks.

Wouldn't be the first time when it comes to the slurs addition, anything to sweeten up a good smear on the headlines.

Picking these targets tho... the movement opens itself up for smears of this kind. A fly can be a source.