cj_iwakura
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NG. I'm getting better, but the second form is, yeah, chaos.
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Bloodborne |OT+5| Grant Us Eyes!
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Headless Bloodletting Beast , DONE
wow,he was easy,i thought he will be super hard
took me 3 tries because i chickened out on the last hit and he one hit KO me.
also,the queen is extremely easy,
WTF? why the first boss is extra hard and the rest are easy?
now time to get the platinum.
only the final boss is left.
wow,he was easy,i thought he will be super hard
took me 3 tries because i chickened out on the last hit and he one hit KO me.
also,the queen is extremely easy,
WTF? why the first boss is extra hard and the rest are easy?
now time to get the platinum.
only the final boss is left.
Here I am, fighting Orphan again, too.
Anyone enjoying this fight? For me it hast written bullshit all over it. Same level of bullshit as the Nameless King in DS3.
I know I will beat him after some tries, but I also know that it will be just like, yeah, whatever.
I really love the whole Fishing Hamlet level, but Orphan is just aweful. The sound is really annoying, it's chaos, the camera can't keep up, all in all not a good ending of this otherwise amazing DLC.
Anyone enjoying this fight? For me it hast written bullshit all over it. Same level of bullshit as the Nameless King in DS3.
I know I will beat him after some tries, but I also know that it will be just like, yeah, whatever.
I really love the whole Fishing Hamlet level, but Orphan is just aweful. The sound is really annoying, it's chaos, the camera can't keep up, all in all not a good ending of this otherwise amazing DLC.
StoppedInTracks
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StrawberryJam
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Just fought Bloodletting Beast for the first time. Intense fight. Camera plus charge attack is a bad combo. Did not expect that grab attack from between his legs, all I could do was laugh. Good fun though.
Edit: Then went and fought Gehrman to the song Hearts On Fire and the fight began right at the start of the song and finished at the end. So accidentally well timed.
Edit: Then went and fought Gehrman to the song Hearts On Fire and the fight began right at the start of the song and finished at the end. So accidentally well timed.
Hats off,fellow Hunters
that's was a good game
when i first finished the game,immediately bought the scythe,however i didn't get the trophy for all weapons,so there must be missing one,i don't remember missing one,then i saw that i was missing the wheel.
i was sure that i got it when i found that hunter dead,maybe i should killed him first?
anyway,thank you everyone for the help,not gonna bother with the rest of the chalice dungeons.
i have big backlogs i need to make it less.
oh,that in the lower area? not the headless one? i was also surprised when he grabbed me when i was below him,the headless one doesn't grab you,but he is much harder.
that's was a good game
when i first finished the game,immediately bought the scythe,however i didn't get the trophy for all weapons,so there must be missing one,i don't remember missing one,then i saw that i was missing the wheel.
i was sure that i got it when i found that hunter dead,maybe i should killed him first?
anyway,thank you everyone for the help,not gonna bother with the rest of the chalice dungeons.
i have big backlogs i need to make it less.
oh,that in the lower area? not the headless one? i was also surprised when he grabbed me when i was below him,the headless one doesn't grab you,but he is much harder.
DorkLord54
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I only started enjoying it once I got as aggressive as him. He's definitely one of the few fights in the game that truly benefits from Bloodborne's more offensive-minded combat.
Also, just got past Layer One of Defiled. Not ready for Defiled Watchdog or Amygdala again.
Only because you find a way to deal with him doesn't make the boss any better. It's terrible and I really enjoy a challenge.
I like Orphan overall. Definitely a hard fight, and he kicked my ass for hours. He does benefit from sneaking in little hits between attacks. If you don't really really hunt for openings to sneak in even small hits, it's hard to harm him much because he's so fast.
It's also nice that he can be parried, but it's not so easy to do that you can rely on it.
IIRC you keep your levels and all equipment except for certain progression items like door keys. So yes, you'll have all your existing weapons and armor.
All enemies are stronger though, and give more souls to match.
First. Orphan can one hit kill you and that's utter bullshit no 1. and he can combo you in a way so you can't escape. And rng decides about the follow ups what makes it even more ridiculous.
This, the fucking screams and the camera piss me off. As always with this fuck. I hate it. Really hate it.
This, the fucking screams and the camera piss me off. As always with this fuck. I hate it. Really hate it.
DorkLord54
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Get a weapon that can stagger him. I beat him again yesterday with a +10 LHS, and its greatsword mode staggered him in two hits during both phases.
Dave_6
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Nice, thanks. I'm just trying to figure out how I could use each of the weapons with them leveled up so I guess that's how.
I find most of his openings quite small, but some are large enough to get a backstab on once you know where to dodge. A small, fast weapon seems to help get those little hits in. I used the BoM against him.
Some of his attacks combo, yes, but I think most attacks shouldn't oneshot you unless it's that really really delayed overhead smash on counterhit. That one hits really hard.
Keep in mind that mashing dodge while you're down makes you get up faster. That can let you escape some followups. If you're not knocked down, some followup moves that look like they're going to combo you can actually be dodged to save yourself as long as you time that second dodge right. Many of the DLC bosses have moves where you can take a hit to the face and escape death by dodging the followup, as long as you don't panic dodge immediately after taking the hit.
I know all that, and still, it's only working sometimes. Thats why it's bullshit. It's totally random at times.
I stopped trying, I don't want to get mad at a game I love so much because of one boss. But Orphan is fake hard, not skill hard like the other bosses. That's what I hate most about it.
cj_iwakura
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I've been using the Threaded Cane. Works good on the first form... second not so much.
I don't get it. Even trying to look at it somewhat objectively, there is nothing fun, beautiful or interesting. There isn't even good music, it's only this idiot screaming. I think it's the worst boss of the souls games I played.
Ludwig the rape horse for example was a nightmare, I tried to kill him for a week I think on my first playthrough. But hell I don't feel mad about it, the fight was awesome. The music, the visuals, everything. And I died because I played bad. Not because of bullshit.
StrawberryJam
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Not the headless one just the regular version for now. Dreading the later bosses of the Chalice Dungeons from what I've read here, but looking forward to it.
About Orphan of Kos, It's the only boss in the main game I've not beaten. It just got to the point where I thought 'fuck this, theres no more bosses after this to fight, whats the point?' I'm going to try again, but I never found the fight fun like I did with Maria or Gehrman or most any other Souls boss.
If you want to get the platinum,you are going to love a certain Pthumerian Descendant.
DorkLord54
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What's the faster way to get red jelly: Lower Loran or Great Isz?
Great Isz,just because of the second layer boss
However,great Isz need two Pearl Slug in addition to the materials.
DorkLord54
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Yeah, I was weighing Abhorrent rematch vs Royal Alien Vanguard, and Great Isz sounds better.
StrawberryJam
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Again, I think I thought the easier version of Pthumerian Descendant?. So many horrors await me in the rest of the Chalice Dungeons.
Orochinagis
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Put him near to a wall, instant win
CalhounBurns
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From the Central Yharnham lamp go through the shortcut gate and down towards the brick trolls. Take them out, they usually yield 2 vials each. Take the elevator down to the bridge but turn right and take the ladder down instead. Go through the tunnel and take out the boar who will usually yield 2 vials then continue through the tunnel and take the exit on the left wall. Go up the ladder to the opposite side of the bridge. The troll will unleash the flaming boulder and always get hit by it, knocking him down and nearly killing him. Finish him off (more vials) and the shield villager. The boulder will almost always kill everything on the bridge and one of them will usually drop a vial.
At this point you can either run down the bridge to collect what may have dropped and double back to take out the 2 enemies just before Gascoigne or you can get them first and then head to the bridge. If you're doing multiple runs it's faster to use a bold hunters mark to reset but if you're good to go you can either head back to the Central Yharnham lamp or the Oedon Chapel one, depending on how you ended the run.
I wanna upgrade a whole bunch of weapons to +9, +10 if possible to try them out with arcane based build. Where do I farm for mats? Ive done the main story except the last boss and killed the first DLC boss.
Ive mained Ludwigs sword and Tonitrus pretty much the whole game and I want to expand. The Wheel feels destructive even without proper gems and upgrades!
Ive mained Ludwigs sword and Tonitrus pretty much the whole game and I want to expand. The Wheel feels destructive even without proper gems and upgrades!
The DLC areas and the messengers in the Hunter Dream will give you materials for +9. I wouldn't recommend +10 to just try out some weapon because the damage increase isn't that significant but the blood rock is expensive. +9 is fine to mess around for a while.
The Wheel is cool but it isn't very good because in this game heavy weapons don't make much sense. Most of the enemies get staggered even with the blades of mercy, so the heavy weapons are basically pointless since you can deal much more damage with fast weapons and still stagger most enemies.
It has good synergy with arcane in its transformed state though.
The Wheel is cool but it isn't very good because in this game heavy weapons don't make much sense. Most of the enemies get staggered even with the blades of mercy, so the heavy weapons are basically pointless since you can deal much more damage with fast weapons and still stagger most enemies.
It has good synergy with arcane in its transformed state though.
StoppedInTracks
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cj_iwakura
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Kos slain. Thank God.
cj_iwakura
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When is it ever safe to attack Laurence's second form?
Basically after any attack. He has no combos at all other than his crawling moves. That said he does like to follow up some of his attacks with a swipe, but you have lots of time to react and can usually get a hit in between attacks.
The swipe with his smaller arm has an extremely long recovery time, but if you stay close you can punish everything he does. Always dodge to the side if you don't want to get obliterated by his crawl or the overhead slam. The crawl is always either 3 stomps (usually with a swipe follow-up) or 7 where the final stomp is delayed.
You need to know how to dodge everything if you're up close, of course, but he has less than 10 moves and none of them require good reflexes.
cj_iwakura
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My big problem is even getting in close, the only time I've managed to safely land a hit is if I happen to be on the side when he starts spraying lava.
Dodge his attacks sideways, but close the distance while he's recovering from his last attack. Alternatively, you can just let him come to you. Once you're up close the only time you should run away is if you're close to the walls and won't be able to escape a crawl attack.
This video should give you an idea of the distance you want to maintain. Not every weapon can be as aggressive as the Threaded Cane but the positioning is useful to know.
cj_iwakura
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I feel like we're talking about a different boss... If I get even close to him, I'm dead.
Ah, that video helps me get an idea of how to dodge the lava. Thanks.
cj_iwakura
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And done. Thanks, this was invaluable. Just need to find all the weapons and the DLC is done.
Awesome! Good luck with the Rakuyo.
Orochinagis
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cj_iwakura
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Wow. I almost beat the game without visiting Upper Cathedral Ward. I would've missed it if not for item hunting.
cj_iwakura
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Got 'em. R2 Threaded Cane from the ledge. To hell with that mess.
Orochinagis
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There are two secret zones there
AB in a nutshell
I hate that boss, so little window to attack unless you use LHB
The OP strat for that boss is to beasthood up with the Saw Cleaver, stand underneath him and roll like a madman whenever he does something. In addition to being the ugliest enemy in the game, there's no way to beat him that doesn't feel janky.
cj_iwakura
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That's certainly a short ending... even for From.
Just embarrassed the heck out of Isz Ebrietas with the Whirligig Saw
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