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Box Office 07•11-13•14 - getting a #1 movie so easy a monkey can do it. Hail Caesar!

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Camwi

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On the way to Dawn, I saw an old woman coming out of the theater for "America" crying, and I said to my wife "What the hell is America?"

Watched Dawn, loved it.

Walking out of the theater, we saw a huge group of old white people with walkers coming out of America, saying how great the movie was.

Got home, googled it, then said, "OHHH, now I get it!"
 

~Kinggi~

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I've been having this conversation all the time IRL, pls tell me I'm not crazy...

It makes sense. Dawn is a start, rise is embracing your power and taking over. The titles are fucking switched lol.

Wonder if its because they didnt know if they would do a second one.
 
You always seem to underestimate Hunger Games, man :)

I think Mockingjay has a REALLY good shot of breaking a bil.

If it goes like HP and Twilight the Part 1 movie won't do much better and then the Part 2 movie is the one who does great.

HGMJP2 should clear the billion mark easily.
 

NR1

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Just got back from Apes and I was very pleased with the film. Easily the best film of the summer. Rise was good, but Dawn was amazing. Smart, interesting, and touching. You actually care for the apes!
 

kswiston

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You always seem to underestimate Hunger Games, man :)

I think Mockingjay has a REALLY good shot of breaking a bil.

It would need to clear 575-600m overseas when the last one did 440ish. That's a big increase for 1 year, and not something that any similarly timed franchise managed (pirates, twilight, Harry Potter, etc). Also, a lot of these big increases have been largely coming from big increases in China. Catching Fire performed poorly over there, making less than $30m, and coming in flat compared to the gross of the first film.
 
Apes taking over B^)

glad to see, fantastic movie, now give me a third one

Apes from san fran vs the world apes, if the virus spread then the apes from different countries should have got it, boom koba vs ceaser part 2, if hes alive
 
It's seemingly has great legs though. It started out looking like a minor bomb but it's already made back its budget domestically. I loved Dawn of the Planet of the Apes and hope it had good legs as well. I'm really surprised how well both it and its predecessor turned out.

100% of a domestic grossing doesn't go to the studios so it hasn't made back its money.
 

tuffy

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It's sad to see "America" has made 8 million.
Considering D'Souza's previous "agenda" film made 33 million back in 2012 and Michael Moore's made 119 million in 2004, one could argue these things resonate more in presidential election years than not.
 

DarkFlow

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Considering D'Souza's previous "agenda" film made 33 million back in 2012 and Michael Moore's made 119 million in 2004, one could argue these things resonate more in presidential election years than not.
Yeah, most people don't give a shit about politics until presidential elections.
 
Transformers knocked off, Boyhood and Dawn of the Apes doing well? Good weak for movies.

Everyone go see Boyhood. Especially if you somehow stomached through 166min of Bayformers, cause both movies are the same length ;)
 

~Kinggi~

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There seems to have been a rapid expansion of international money making these last 5 years. Honestly i think movies are making more money than ever, taking in the "premiere" experiences like 3d and imax and how every market apparently gets a release. Failing domestically doesnt mean you wont make a lot of profit. It never used to be like this. Plus all the digital distro release opportunities now that are starting to grow.
 
one thing that sorta bugged me about the Apes movie titles, shouldn't Dawn come before Rise?

I've been having this conversation all the time IRL, pls tell me I'm not crazy...

Aren't they fucking synonyms?


EDIT: In context to the movies and titles. They mean the same thing. Both are referring to a new day in which apes come to rule.

Next movie will be named "Ascension of the Planet of the Apes"
 
http://www.deadline.com/2014/07/20t...ffice/?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=facebook
Fox just announced that it was the first studio to cross the billion dollar mark at the box office this year with a total tally of $1.015B, thanks to Dawn of the Planet of the Apes pushing it past that threshold this weekend with what is expected to be a $73M to $74M three-day. The tally, according to the studio, does not including Fox Searchlight. It does include, however, one of the biggest hits of the summer (and the year) — X-Men: Days of Future Past which has grossed a total of $229M+ since opening May 23 with a $90M three-day weekend.
 

hirokazu

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HTTYD2 still isn't out here in china. so that could rise considerably.

It's over $140m behind the first movie though (I'm not sure if they added last week's foreign take to that yet.) It still has a number of smaller territories to open in too, but my guess is it'd have to do over $90m in China to even have a chance at catching up in total international gross.

Speaking of which, what's the most reliable way to find release dates in China? It seems some movies they don't have release dates for a long time, for example, HTTYD2 only got a release date announced today for August 14. Is it because they have to wait for state approval and all that?
 

kswiston

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It's over $140m behind the first movie though (I'm not sure if they added last week's foreign take to that yet.) It still has a number of smaller territories to open in too, but my guess is it'd have to do over $90m in China to even have a chance at catching up in total international gross.

South Korea and Germany are not smaller territories. The first film made $40M in those two countries. Spain and Italy accounted for another $20M. Those plus holdovers will bring the overseas total to at least $300M. Add China on top of that. HTTYD2 could still beat the first movie's take.
 
It makes sense. Dawn is a start, rise is embracing your power and taking over. The titles are fucking switched lol.

Wonder if its because they didnt know if they would do a second one.

They had stuff in the first movie that was just set up for sequel movies (spaceship news story, Koba being introduced despite his very small role). I just see it as the apes rise up in the first movie, and in the second movie their rule over the world begins to dawn.
 

Alrus

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HTTYD 2 is suffering the same fate as KFP 2, I expect the end result will be the same. Diminished grosses domestically and slightly higher ones worlwide thanks to the international markets. Both sequels were expected to perform much better than their originals.

Edge of Tomorrow's grosses would have been okay if the movie's budget wasn't as insane, maybe they can still eke out a small profit with rentals and sales though. So it's not an outright disaster.

Maleficient is probably going to cross 700m, that's pretty insane.
 

Jacob

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Mockingjay will definitely increase overseas, the real question in regards to it, and the possibility of it breaking a bill, is if it can do the unfathomable feat of getting 3 straight 400m movies domestically.

It's never been done.

True, but if you account for inflation, Star Wars and LOTR have both managed three (SW has had six straight if you ignore the animated spin-offs). Of course, something that has only been done by SW and LOTR is still incredibly rare. I don't think anyone would have imagined we'd even be having this discussion about The Hunger Games before the first movie came out.
 
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