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[Royal_Phalanx]

The online abuse and threats to her life began within minutes of last week’s high court ruling. Miller had taken the government to court and won; to trigger article 50 without parliament’s consent was, the judges agreed, unlawful. She didn’t take the death threats seriously at first. “It sounds awful, but they’re kind of normal nowadays, aren’t they?” Following her appearance opposite Nigel Farage show on last Sunday’s The Andrew Marr show, however, they began targeting her family and children, and Miller went to the police.

“It felt surreal. I thought: I did a court case about preserving the rule of law and the British constitution, and now on a Sunday afternoon I’m walking into a police station.”

She left her husband and children outside in the car, thinking it would take a few minutes. “And the next moment, CID are telling me to send them home because I’d be there for hours. They are taking it very, very seriously.”

She asks me not to disclose the full range of extraordinary security measures CID have imposed, several of which I had never heard of before, and she has been told to avoid all public places, even the tube.

With her office and staff bombarded by abusive calls and hate mail, Miller is having to run her life and her business from her club, less a VIP sanctuary for her than gilded prison. “We knew it would be bad. But nothing like this, obviously.”

In the past nine days, Miller has been attacked in the press as a “foreign-born immigrant” trying to “subvert” British democracy, and the three judges who ruled in her favour denounced as “enemies of the people”. Farage has called for pro-Brexit protesters to march on the supreme court in December when it hears the government’s appeal, and warned of anger “we have never seen in this country in our lifetime” and civil disorder if the ruling is upheld.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/nov/11/article-50-claimant-gina-miller-safe-outside-brexit

Extremely concerning stuff. With a hopeless opposition and the Tories abandoning the centre and listening to its fringe ideologues, just like Labour is doing, except people nationally are supporting the Tories more than ever, it seems like presenting a pro-EU case is an increasingly fruitless position. People in Trump threads have been saying to fight for the future you want to have, but it seems hopeless. The left is doomed for over a decade at least, the country seems to be taken over by a nationalistic wave and our rights to live and work in the EU are being stripped from many of us against our consent. I don't see the pendulum ever swinging back. I would try my luck in the EU, Canada, etc, with another citizenship being my long term goal but I won't be in a position where I can emigrate any time soon. Most of the world isn't doing too much better in terms of politics either.

 

[Huw_Dawson]

Yup - this is the reality of a radicalized political situation. Liberals and moderates are the enemy now for many.

The Lib Dems at least will never stop presenting the pro-EU case

 

[Zvonimir Boban]

She didn’t take the death threats seriously at first. “It sounds awful, but they’re kind of normal nowadays, aren’t they?”

 

[PipefishUK]

I looked into it and was surprised to discover that I was entitled to an Irish passport - I applied, was accepted and got one a few months after the referendum.

If I was single - I'd be using that. I'd be gone. Seriously.

Fuck this country at the moment.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Anything happens to her, they should shutdown those right wing nationalist tabloids like the daily mail and the sun and telegraph.


When will the rest of the media refer to them as nationalist socialist tabloids?

 

[Jonnax]

I looked into it and was surprised to discover that I was entitled to an Irish passport - I applied, was accepted and got one a few months after the referendum.

If I was single - I'd be using that. I'd be gone. Seriously.

Fuck this country at the moment.

Lucky you. My other passport is American. (・へ&#12539

This is awful but the 'journalists' with all those disgusting front pages knew exactly what they were doing. They're probably celebrating.

 

[Klocker]

Wow had no idea. I've been so engrossed in Trump fear that I didn't realize.

The two are not far removed. my opints is sadly that the terrorists have done their job very well sowing terror and fear in hearts in minds putting us all against ourselves with this Nationalist behavior. Doing exactly what they wanted us to do.

I hope people calm down in both sides in both countries and realize we are being played by fear of others.

 

[autumnleaf]

Sounds about right. All the while the PM, Government and rags like the Sun and Mail continue to stoke the fire.

 

[lazygecko]

Seeing as UK politicans are now getting shot on the streets, those fears are sadly well warranted.

 

[Breakfast at Noon]

He reckons we are going to riot for Brexit?

Lol no, us British are lazy cunts and won't riot when we need to let alone against something most have changed their minds on.

 

[Ashes]

Sounds about right. All the while the PM, Government and rags like the Sun and Mail continue to stoke the fire.

Have you heard about the ''stop funding hate campaign"?

 

[Joni]

Anything happens to her, they should shutdown those right wing nationalist tabloids like the daily mail and the sun and telegraph.


When will the rest of the media refer to them as nationalist socialist tabloids?

There is a rest of the media in the UK? Everyone of them looks bad when they get posted here. Outside of the Guardian maybe.

 

[watershed]

Disgusting and another example of the inhuman hate of the right.

 

[Xisiqomelir]

Following her appearance opposite Nigel Farage show on last Sunday’s The Andrew Marr show

Stupendous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgIib_Uj1T4

 

[Fruitster]

There is a rest of the media in the UK? Everyone of them looks bad when they get posted here. Outside of the Guardian maybe.

No newspaper in the UK has any merit if you are looking for factual analysis. They are all twisted by either right wing or left bias, either preaching hate and mistrust, or covering their ears and eyes to issues and telling us the status quo is just fine.

On the topic, utterly dreadful that Gina Miller is receiving threats against her life.

 

[Stilton Disco]

It's just insane how bare faced the leave campaigns hypocrisy is toward completely ignoring the British rule of law and sovereignty in such a serious matter, instead wanting to blindly follow EU rules and trigger article 50 without any or planning on whether it's a good idea and in the countries best interests.

Also it's a sad testament to just how fucked up we've all become as a society that this poor woman expected death threats, and it's only the severity of them that took her by surprise.

I really wish I could just leave Britain, I really worry about getting stuck here simply due to time running out before I can get the cash together and not have commitments here.

 

[TsunamiOfSwagger]

No newspaper in the UK has any merit if you are looking for factual analysis. They are all twisted by either right wing or left bias, either preaching hate and mistrust, or covering their ears and eyes to issues and telling us the status quo is just fine.

For the life of me, I can't think of one place to get news that is pure fact and doesn't offer its opinion directly or indirectly.
Is there one?

 

[daviyoung]

For the life of me, I can't think of one place to get news that is pure fact and doesn't offer its opinion directly or indirectly.
Is there one?

Reuters? Associated Press?

 

[liquidtmd]

Anything happens to her, they should shutdown those right wing nationalist tabloids like the daily mail and the sun and telegraph.

Even if someone killed her tomorrow - I imagine even that wouldn't make these pieces of shit publications pause and draw breath.

'The controversial figure was tragically assassinated and whilst we mourn her, we can't help but ask our audience whether if she hadn't of taken this ill advised action this would have happened'.

The above quoted is my hypothetical on the kinda tone they would strike based on the garbage they post.

The human filth that writes for them wouldn't think twice.

 

[Omikaru]

The press in this country is out of control. Until we find a way to put their vile excesses on a leash with sensible legislation that doesn't hamper their right to report factual news, things will only continue to go south in this country.

Cameron should've implemented Leveson's recommendations in full when he had the chance. Yet again, this is all his fault.

 

[Lord Thrappleper The 49th]

There just comes a point where eventually you have to take a stand and do something against all this hate and intolerance. I would start by dismantling the daily mail. A paper that is known world wide for spewing hate and lies. Why have them there?
Freedom of press my ass they're barely a legitimate business. They just want to stand in a street and shout 'immigrants are bad black people are bad gay people are bad burn them all!'

 

[Symphonia]

He reckons we are going to riot for Brexit?

Lol no, us British are lazy cunts and won't riot when we need to let alone against something most have changed their minds on.

You're obviously too young to remember the riots of 2011.

 

[Kelthink]

Stupendous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgIib_Uj1T4

Farage still able to be a lying liar, I see.

Must be so annoying for Miller there, having to bite her tongue on nearly everything she says, for fear of further demonization from the fascist rags.

 

[TsunamiOfSwagger]

Reuters? Associated Press?

No idea. Not trying to be a smart arse, I'm just tired of opinion pieces being fobbed off as news fact.
I will look at the suggestions.

 

[Bert]

No newspaper in the UK has any merit if you are looking for factual analysis. They are all twisted by either right wing or left bias, either preaching hate and mistrust, or covering their ears and eyes to issues and telling us the status quo is just fine.

On the topic, utterly dreadful that Gina Miller is receiving threats against her life.

Thus kind of nonsense if why we got Trump and Brexit. Ridiculous reductionism. Of course there's good press and bad press in the UK. Pretending the Mail and the Sun are like the Guardian and the Economist is just ludicrous.

Telling people "all press is bad" removes one of the fundamental pillars of democracy. Same as making out "all politicians are the same". It gives the fuck wit with a YouTubr channel as much cache as the award winning journalist. This is how conspiracy theory nonsense starts taking over.

And God dammit, we are British. We are better than that.

 

[ClosingADoor]

Farage has called for pro-Brexit protesters to march on the supreme court in December when it hears the government’s appeal, and warned of anger “we have never seen in this country in our lifetime” and civil disorder if the ruling is upheld.

What the hell? Farage, your own damn courts made a ruling. It is literally what you want, British courts ruling in Britain, without any EU stuff. Now that isn't good enough also?

Incite more violence and distrust against the democratic systems of Britain. What an idiot. Guy is a danger to that nation.

Stupendous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgIib_Uj1T4

Miller: We have a representative democracy.
Farage: [laughs]

That says it all really.

 

[8bit]

Meant to post this in another thread, but I'll leave it here.

 

[-Plasma Reus-]

Farage has called for pro-Brexit protesters to march on the supreme court in December when it hears the government’s appeal, and warned of anger “we have never seen in this country in our lifetime” and civil disorder if the ruling is upheld.

Is he threatening the courts? He's threatening the courts.

 

[StayDead]

These are the people who wanted Brexit:

Ignore the one in the middle, but the top and bottom comments (top was replying to me saying something about 30% of the population doesn't make a majority) are the reason why this country is completely awful. I don't normally respond to news article comments, but I found it so easy to point out these people complaining that our own government get to vote on this entire thing as disgraceful, when their entire reason for voting for Brexit was to give more power back to our government is unreal.

One guy claimed that this is the government being totalarian by having a vote. If you think this is totalarian why the hell did you vote to give them more power? I have actually lost all faith in anyone who voted Brexit. I don't want to talk to them, I don't want to acknowledge they exist and honestly the quicker I can get out of this hellhole the happier I'll be. It really doesn't surprise me people like the above are also sending death threats to people. Sickening. Absolutely sickening.

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As a side note I've noticed this happen not only with Brexit, but also the whole Trump election that somehow anyone who has ever so slightly humanist views (mainly left wing ones) are being ostracised and laughed at by the people who are racist, sexist and downright awful people. Why is wanting to be more liberal suddenly such a disgusting thought? Why is wanting everyone to be nice to each other so hard to want and understand? I've been "liberal" my entire life. My grandparents and my parents raised me to love and care for others no matter where they were from or what they do for a living. I understand racism and sexism is still widespread and while these people are allowed to pass their shitty views onto their children it's probably not going to go away, but why do people not have brainpower enough to sit and think about what vile shit they're spewing and ignore what the daily mail is feeding them?

 

[8bit]

These are the people who wanted Brexit:

Ignore the one in the middle, but the top and bottom comments (top was replying to me saying something about 30% of the population doesn't make a majority) are the reason why this country is completely awful. I don't normally respond to news article comments, but I found it so easy to point out these people complaining that our own government get to vote on this entire thing as disgraceful, when their entire reason for voting for Brexit was to give more power back to our government is unreal.

One guy claimed that this is the government being totalarian by having a vote. If you think this is totalarian why the hell did you vote to give them more power? I have actually lost all faith in anyone who voted Brexit. I don't want to talk to them, I don't want to acknowledge they exist and honestly the quicker I can get out of this hellhole the happier I'll be. It really doesn't surprise me people like the above are also sending death threats to people. Sickening. Absolutely sickening.

Not to mention the EU has existed since 1993, not since he/she/it was born.

 

[Guerrillas in the Mist]

Is he threatening the courts? He's threatening the courts.

British courts at that!

 

[DontBeThatGuy]

Stupendous:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zgIib_Uj1T4

Now that the US election is over, I'm back to reading comments because fuck it, and yep, the right-wing in the UK are also fuuuuuuuuuucked.

 

[nekkid]

These are the people who wanted Brexit:

Ignore the one in the middle, but the top and bottom comments (top was replying to me saying something about 30% of the population doesn't make a majority) are the reason why this country is completely awful. I don't normally respond to news article comments, but I found it so easy to point out these people complaining that our own government get to vote on this entire thing as disgraceful, when their entire reason for voting for Brexit was to give more power back to our government is unreal.

One guy claimed that this is the government being totalarian by having a vote. If you think this is totalarian why the hell did you vote to give them more power? I have actually lost all faith in anyone who voted Brexit. I don't want to talk to them, I don't want to acknowledge they exist and honestly the quicker I can get out of this hellhole the happier I'll be. It really doesn't surprise me people like the above are also sending death threats to people. Sickening. Absolutely sickening.

---

As a side note I've noticed this happen not only with Brexit, but also the whole Trump election that somehow anyone who has ever so slightly humanist views (mainly left wing ones) are being ostracised and laughed at by the people who are racist, sexist and downright awful people. Why is wanting to be more liberal suddenly such a disgusting thought? Why is wanting everyone to be nice to each other so hard to want and understand? I've been "liberal" my entire life. My grandparents and my parents raised me to love and care for others no matter where they were from or what they do for a living. I understand racism and sexism is still widespread and while these people are allowed to pass their shitty views onto their children it's probably not going to go away, but why do people not have brainpower enough to sit and think about what vile shit they're spewing and ignore what the daily mail is feeding them?

Remember a time when it was largely intelligent people that were capable of using PCs and accessing the internet?

I blame Apple for making it accessible to morons.

 

[Lucreto]

Now that the US election is over, I'm back to reading comments because fuck it, and yep, the right-wing in the UK are also fuuuuuuuuuucked.

Ha, I am the same. I avoided off topic since Tuesday and no radio since Tuesday as well.

Unlike the US election this is far more entertaining.

 

[8bit]

Remember a time when it was largely intelligent people that were capable of using PCs and accessing the internet?

I blame Apple for making it accessible to morons.

Eternal September has been going since 1993.

 

[nampad]

I wonder how much these threats are followed upon. We all know they are coming from idiots so they had to fuck up somewhere down the line.

 

[Beefy]

The press that said the twisted shit are the ones to blame. They stoked the fires with their disgusting front pages. Fuck them and fuck the scum that are harrassing Miller.

 

[Lime]

This is absolutely horrendous.

 

[Broken Joystick]

Meant to post this in another thread, but I'll leave it here.

why is he getting airtime
why

 

[Joni]

why is he getting airtime
why

THanks to the Anglosaxon voter, he won two elections this year.

 

[jelly]

I wonder how much these threats are followed upon. We all know they are coming from idiots so they had to fuck up somewhere down the line.

It only takes one idiot or unhinged person. Look at Cox who was killed. They might not want to lay the blame soley on the politicians and media but they put people into a frenzy with lies and hate, somebody snapped and killed her. The fact that little has changed since then is absolutely disgusting, it's time to fine and see major repercussions for media and politicians who lie, misled and stir hatred.