Wow, all this to a guy who's actually heading over to Cleveland this afternoon for the weekend for a graduate school interview/visit.
Well it sounds like you'll fit right in with the rest of the out of town students who come here for the education, and subsequently packs up and moves to somewhere the job market is stable and accomodating of progressive industries.
Cuyahoga county is consistently posting major population losses because of this.
For the Cleveland natives, is it really that bad? Even so, how are the costs of living? I'm thinking about going there for graduate school and maybe stay for a PhD, since I studied up on Cleveland and didn't see it as too bad (mostly by watching the Drew Carey Show).
Oh christ no!
Drew Carrey is a fucking liar!
Getting Cleveland advice from Carrey is like getting travel tips on Germany from Leni Riefenstahl.
Let's put it this way. . . If Cleveland "
rocked", wouldn't you stick around? Cleveland doesn't rock. It only pretends to rock, and New York still benefits from most of the major Rock Hall induction celebrations, and Cleveland is the only f@cking city that would let that shit slide. Cleveland = Weaksauce!
Cleveland has a total shit talent retention rate. At current count, we've got Eric Meyer, Harvey Pekar, Derek Hess, and
*shudder* Lebron James. I shudder at Lebron only because he attracts fair weather fans. The minute he gets traded or says, "F@ck you Cleveland you don't respect me" like Boozer; Cleveland is once again f@cked.
Oh, and we got Sharon Reed, but we've always had fairly hot news women. Just Reed was the first one to take off her clothes and make the national news.
The education scene is quite nice, and the cost of living is very affordable.
If you can dig into a career and make it, you'll likely live out your days in placid splendor. We do have a small pocket of wealth here, we don't have crazy riots, and you can bet your ass we're pretty low on the scale of places terrorists want to attack.
"
I will destroy the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame and cripple American civilization!", an unwitting Osama bin Laden.
Although we might make a good target for the excellent part we played in the major East Coast
Black Out of 2003.
Generally people in Cleveland that are well off, are satisfied. However, those people tend to be the ones living in the suburbs of Cleveland where the hobos, prostitutes, and drug dealers aren't. Park their expensive cars in the enclosed secured parking garages when they come into Cleveland proper to see Lebron, or whatever other fair weather attraction is in town at the moment.
So far as actual culture and living goes, Cleveland is the pits. Unless you only are interested in clubbing on the weekends. There's no shortage of flesh farms. However, if you just want to go to a nice restaraunt, or a nice little establishment with some ambiance where you can chill out and have some fun - it ain't happening.
I've lived here all my life, so I've got the qualifications. My current life plan is get back to school, get the f@ck out of Cleveland. That's mainly because Cleveland has no outlet/market for creative folks.
There are places in Cleveland that are worth checking out, but you'll need to hunker down and find them. I generally find the West Side of Cleveland is more suited to my tastes. The Ohio City area. You go too far west and you're in the super pinchy suburbs. You go too far east and you'll either be dodging bullets or bagels.
The weather is split. Personally, I'm feeling the need for warmer climates. Summers aren't too bad, and winter is just hell. Sure, our winter isn't as bad as those in the northern most extremities, but being by the lake earns us extra spiteful shitty weather points. My stance on this issue is:
F@ck Snow. All of it. Snow falls. Snow flurries. Sno Cones.
I'm trying to get more active in local politics, not as a candidate for mayor; but in the context of educating myself on local politcal figures. Right now we're under the rule of a clueless bitch who's primary political platform is pinning her hopes on pipedream prospects of an emerging biomedical industry, casinos (
They're courting the actual Native American groups for this, and if I were a Native American I'd totally leverage my ability to "save" this city against the racist Indians mascot - anyone reading from the reservation is free to take me up on that), and stop light cameras.
Having done some limited travelling to slightly larger cities, I've discovered that Cleveland is indeed the pits. Unless you're looking for cheap living and being the butt end of jokes.
It's called the "Comeback city". Yeah, come back when there's something to see. :lol
move to toledo you can work with me!
I'm eyeballing the Southern States. I don't want to move to Red territory, but I figure I'm already in Red territory - which is ironic as it just demonstrates this regions propensity for self abuse - so I can at least move some place that's Red and has warmer climates year round.