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How is everyone seeing their order for the KS8000? Mine still isn't showing up no matter what I try. I didn't order until Saturday night though so maybe that's the issue?

TLZ said:
You can leave it unopened and sell it to someone who wants it on here. No big deal.
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I'll probably just hold on to it. I'd feel horrible if something was wrong with the panel.
 
Marty Chinn said:
Another thing is it has a terrible limited view angle. Anything more than 20 degrees off center causes a color shift.
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Yes but as its a VA panel it has better blacks and higher contrast than an IPS panel. If you are sitting in front of your TV (which you likely would be 99% of the time) its not an issue. There are pros and cons to each technology. The almost inky blacks on this thing is awesome to me.

From rtings review.

http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/samsung/ku6300

8.9 Contrast

Black : 0.018 cd/m2
White : 97.4 cd/m2
Contrast : 5411 : 1
The blacks are deep on the Samsung KU6300, which offers a high contrast ratio and a better picture quality.

LEARN ABOUT CONTRAST
9.8 Black Uniformity

Std. Dev. : 0.535 %
Our unit has an almost perfect black uniformity. No clouding or flash lighting can be seen.

Compared to a similar model that is IPS.

http://ca.rtings.com/tv/reviews/sony/x700d

6.0 Contrast

Black : .101 cd/m2
White : 100.2 cd/m2
Contrast : 992 : 1
The contrast ratio is bad. This TV has an IPS panel which generally have worse contrast than VA panel, but for the X700D, this is on the lower end. Blacks appear gray when seen in a dark room.

LEARN ABOUT CONTRAST
6.4 Black Uniformity

Std. Dev. : 2.419 %
Black uniformity is below average for an LED TV and is comparable to its bigger sibling the X750D. Even if there is a lot of clouding on our test picture, the clouding is pretty much even on all the screen and when viewing normal content, the picture quality is still good and you can't really notice it. That being said, we have seen a lot worse on other IPS TVs.

The Sony 800D that people rave about here is a VA panel also.
 
jrush64 said:
What is EPP? I'll check that model. I need the TV to be multi voltage though. Also that sony tv is a new model this year.
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An employee purchase program called Perks at Work. Oh I didn't realize it was a new model. Either way reviews aren't favorable to the KS8000. Just ask on here if someone can send you an invite for EPP and they will get you hooked up. There should still be tons of people with codes to give.
 
WordsintheWater said:
Ordered mine on a Wednesday late, never got shipping information, TV arrived that Friday and only after it arrived did I get a notice it shipped with tracking info haha. Don't pay too much attention to what it says on the site.
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Same thing happened to me when I ordered a SSD the other month. Didn't get a notification until the day of. Fucking that better not happen with this TV. I need to know to be home to receive it >:(
I assume you ordered the 65" version?

Aztechnology said:
Either way reviews aren't favorable to the KS8000.
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wut
 
zedge said:
Yes but as its a VA panel it has better blacks and higher contrast than an IPS panel. If you are sitting in front of your TV (which you likely would be 99% of the time) its not an issue. There are pros and cons to each technology. The almost inky blacks on this thing is awesome to me.
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Well for just my point of reference, my current TV has better black levels and viewable from any angle with no degradation so hearing 20 degrees off center sounds extremely limiting.

Madness said:
Pretty much every VA panel and edge lit panel is the same. Even the KS8000 has poor viewing angles that degrades beyond 20 degrees.
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Well I'd never touch an edge lit panel for my personal main driver either but that's getting beyond the scope. I guess I shouldn't expect much out of a TV that cost $330. I'm just disappointed in the misleading HDR specification on it.
 
Flandy said:
Same thing happened to me when I ordered a SSD the other month. Didn't get a notification until the day of. Fucking that better not happen with this TV. I need to know to be home to receive it >:(
I assume you ordered the 65" version?
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Yup 65", by luck my mom was home when it came in. She was just about to leave for work. The Fedex guy gave no shits and just left it on the patio at the front of the house, didn't have her sign or anything. If she wasn't home anyone could have walked by and seen it. I think maybe you should just call Samsung's support they may have more info then the site.
 
Marty Chinn said:
Well for just my point of reference, my current TV has better black levels and viewable from any angle with no degradation so hearing 20 degrees off center sounds extremely limiting.



Well I'd never touch an edge lit panel for my personal main driver either but that's getting beyond the scope. I guess I shouldn't expect much out of a TV that cost $330. I'm just disappointed in the misleading HDR specification on it.
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What TV do you have? And where is this TV $330? The 55 inch?
 
Marty Chinn said:
As far as I can tell, the 6300 doesn't support wide color gamut so it's not really qualifying as an HDR set IMO. It seems more like it can take the signal but it can't properly display it. I'm not even sure what the point is without wide color gamut.
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HDR stuff looks great on the 6300 series. Movies, Forza 3, etc. all look great. It uses dithering to approximate the colors the panel can't natively show.

There's a big difference between the HDR/non-HDR on it. You're talking out your ass.
 
zedge said:
What TV do you have? And where is this TV $330? The 55 inch?
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My main driver is currently a Pioneer Kuro Elite Pro-111FD. The Samsung is the 40" version and my company just ordered a few of them from PCRichard.com for that price. They're experimenting with trying out 40" 4K TVs for monitor usage so when they told me they bought some HDR 4K TVs I got excited until I looked into what they bought.

inner-G said:
HDR stuff looks great on the 6300 series. Movies, Forza 3, etc. all look great. It uses dithering to approximate the colors the panel can't natively show.

There's a big difference between the HDR/non-HDR on it. You're talking out your ass.
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I'll reserve judgement until I test it out, but all indicators is it's half assed HDR. It's not a worthwhile without a 10-bit panel to me. I personally would never bother with an entry level TV for reasons like this. It's an automatic deal killer. Also both rtings and 4k seem to confirm it being extremely limited in it's implementation of HDR.

Although the KU6300 support HDR10 input, it does not really benefit from it, since it does not support a wide color gamut and it cannot really get highlight very bright.
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First of all, there is the lack of full high dynamic range technology in the entire KU-Series TV range. Like the KU7500, KU7000 and KU6500, the KU6300 comes with HDR but in a much more loosely defined sense of the technology. None of these TVs offer high dynamic range that matches the quality defined either by HDR10 standards from the UHD Alliance or by Dolby’s Dolby Vision rubric. Furthermore, none of these 4K TVs offer Wide Color Gamut technology and as a result, their overall value is reduced slightly.
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If you're happy with it, that's cool, but it's not even close to being acceptable for my main driver. For the record, the Samsung KS8000 probably wouldn't even qualify either. So no, I'm not talking out of my ass.
 
Marty Chinn said:
My main driver is currently a Pioneer Kuro Elite Pro-111FD. The Samsung is the 40" version and my company just ordered a few of them from PCRichard.com for that price. They're experimenting with trying out 40" 4K TVs for monitor usage so when they told me they bought some HDR 4K TVs I got excited until I looked into what they bought.



I'll reserve judgement until I test it out, but all indicators is it's half assed HDR. It's not a worthwhile without a 10-bit panel to me. I personally would never bother with an entry level TV for reasons like this. It's an automatic deal killer. Also both rtings and 4k seem to confirm it being extremely limited in it's implementation of HDR.





If you're happy with it, that's cool, but it's not even close to being acceptable for my main driver. For the record, the Samsung KS8000 probably wouldn't even qualify either. So no, I'm not talking out of my ass.
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Thats a nice set, not cheap either.

Its all personal preference and budget at the end of the day. You have higher standards than I do that's for sure. But this thread should be open to discuss all options of 4K TVs for all budgets etc. The 6300 (6290 from Best Buy) is still a awesome budget 4K set well suited to gaming. I am honestly over the moon with how good the picture is on this. I never owned a VA panel before. My last TV was an LG IPS which was good but the screen would be grey when it was black background etc. This TV is deep black and much brighter, plus the 4K obviously makes a big difference. HDR also improves the picture quite a bit. I know I will likely never buy another IPS panel that's for sure. Here in Canada the higher end models like the 8000 are twice the price of this set, not worth cost to me. Hopefully OLED becomes cheaper so my next set will be one.
 
Marty Chinn said:
I'll reserve judgement until I test it out, but all indicators is it's half assed HDR. It's not a worthwhile without a 10-bit panel to me. I personally would never bother with an entry level TV for reasons like this. It's an automatic deal killer. Also both rtings and 4k seem to confirm it being extremely limited in it's implementation of HDR.
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It may not be 10 bit, but it is better than even more expensive TVs in other ways.

It has lower input lag than the OLED sets (and Sony sets I think) and it can do HDR in Game Mode.
Can also handle 4K/60Hz at 4:4:4 Chroma if you want to hook a PC up to it - not all sets will.
 
Marty Chinn said:
My main driver is currently a Pioneer Kuro Elite Pro-111FD. The Samsung is the 40" version and my company just ordered a few of them from PCRichard.com for that price. They're experimenting with trying out 40" 4K TVs for monitor usage so when they told me they bought some HDR 4K TVs I got excited until I looked into what they bought.



I'll reserve judgement until I test it out, but all indicators is it's half assed HDR. It's not a worthwhile without a 10-bit panel to me. I personally would never bother with an entry level TV for reasons like this. It's an automatic deal killer. Also both rtings and 4k seem to confirm it being extremely limited in it's implementation of HDR.





If you're happy with it, that's cool, but it's not even close to being acceptable for my main driver. For the record, the Samsung KS8000 probably wouldn't even qualify either. So no, I'm not talking out of my ass.
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inner-G said:
It may not be 10 bit, but it is better than even more expensive TVs in other ways.

It has lower input lag than the OLED sets (and Sony sets I think) and it can do HDR in Game Mode.
Can also handle 4K/60Hz at 4:4:4 Chroma if you want to hook a PC up to it - not all sets will.
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It is 10bit though. It just doesn't have expanded color gammut. It can still display the 10 bit gradients, it's just not nearly as vibrant. Still a phenomenal TV for that price and will work quite nicely as a monitor.

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I'm doing it this weekend. Going in. I've finally justified buying one of these things cause really... gaming is something I do every day. I game almost every damn day and all weekend so it's not like I won't get my value.

Definitely going Samsung cause ill be coming from a Panasonic Plasma which had super low input lag and I don't want to notice a difference, that would really take the wind outta my sails. Just cant decide between 6300 and ks8000.... ks8000 is slightly outta my budget when considering I have to buy the ps4 pro also.

Kinda off topic... but how soon can we expect sports to start broadcasting in 4k? specifically NFL and college football. Is that still years down the road?
 
I bought a sony 65" x850d and was wondering for hdr gaming or gaming in general if i should stick to rtings settings page or you guys have any suggestions? (Only going to use a ps4 pro on it.)
 
zedge said:
Thats a nice set, not cheap either.
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I agree, it's not a cheap set and I don't expect most people to go to that level. It's just now that I have had it, it's hard to take steps backwards in some areas. I have my eye on the Sony Z9D, but even that's beyond what I think I'm willing to spend right now as it's even pricier than what my current set cost at the time. I'll elaborate more in a bit though.

Its all personal preference and budget at the end of the day. You have higher standards than I do that's for sure. But this thread should be open to discuss all options of 4K TVs for all budgets etc. The 6300 (6290 from Best Buy) is still a awesome budget 4K set well suited to gaming. I am honestly over the moon with how good the picture is on this. I never owned a VA panel before. My last TV was an LG IPS which was good but the screen would be grey when it was black background etc. This TV is deep black and much brighter, plus the 4K obviously makes a big difference. HDR also improves the picture quite a bit. I know I will likely never buy another IPS panel that's for sure. Here in Canada the higher end models like the 8000 are twice the price of this set, not worth cost to me. Hopefully OLED becomes cheaper so my next set will be one.
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I agree it's a personal preference, but let me elaborate on my stance on the whole thing. IMO, my first recommendation is to not buy a TV now; it's premature. The HDR standards just got defined this year. Only a few sets actually conform to those guidelines and things are in flux. Most don't stack up. I firmly believe next year is the first viable year that someone might be able to select from a wide range of decent HDR capable sets that are up to the quality level that they should be. The dust is still settling and I think it's premature to buy now. If money is your concern, don't buy now.

That said, if you must buy because your set just died, then I'd first recommend the Sony Z9D if money is no object, then the LG OLEDs if you don't want to spend quite that much and if you're more on a budget look at some of the higher end Samsungs and finally on the lower end the Samsung KS8000, maybe the Vizio P series, and then the only one under a thousand if you wanted to go cheap would be the Sony 800 model. I couldn't IMO in good conscious recommend the Samsung 6300 to anyone who was looking for a TV to buy today because of how it handles HDR. I believe HDR is a big thing and getting something that's so far off from what is going to be offered to me is just throwing your money away when there are better options out there now and there will be a lot of better options next year.
 
Andodalf said:
Any good options in the 30 - 40 inch range? I play at a desk, so I essentially want a largeish monitor with 4k and HDR.
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I don't believe any TV under 40" has HDR. Your best buy is the Sony 800 model if you want something inexpensive and small. As I said above, my personal recommendation is wait until next year when there will be more models to choose from.
 
Marty Chinn said:
I don't believe any TV under 40" has HDR. Your best buy is the Sony 800 model if you want something inexpensive and small. As I said above, my personal recommendation is wait until next year when there will be more models to choose from.
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Yeah, That seems like the way to go! Right now I actually just use the old PlayStation Display, 1080p at a really nice size for a desk, But sitting so close to it means that even at sub 30" pixels are noticeable.
 
Marty Chinn said:
I agree, it's not a cheap set and I don't expect most people to go to that level. It's just now that I have had it, it's hard to take steps backwards in some areas. I have my eye on the Sony Z9D, but even that's beyond what I think I'm willing to spend right now as it's even pricier than what my current set cost at the time. I'll elaborate more in a bit though.



I agree it's a personal preference, but let me elaborate on my stance on the whole thing. IMO, my first recommendation is to not buy a TV now; it's premature. The HDR standards just got defined this year. Only a few sets actually conform to those guidelines and things are in flux. Most don't stack up. I firmly believe next year is the first viable year that someone might be able to select from a wide range of decent HDR capable sets that are up to the quality level that they should be. The dust is still settling and I think it's premature to buy now. If money is your concern, don't buy now.

That said, if you must buy because your set just died, then I'd first recommend the Sony Z9D if money is no object, then the LG OLEDs if you don't want to spend quite that much and if you're more on a budget look at some of the higher end Samsungs and finally on the lower end the Samsung KS8000, maybe the Vizio P series, and then the only one under a thousand if you wanted to go cheap would be the Sony 800 model. I couldn't IMO in good conscious recommend the Samsung 6300 to anyone who was looking for a TV to buy today because of how it handles HDR. I believe HDR is a big thing and getting something that's so far off from what is going to be offered to me is just throwing your money away when there are better options out there now and there will be a lot of better options next year.
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Fair enough but the 6300 has lower input lag than the 800D. Quite a bit too. I think I would sacrifice the 10bit for that, plus the larger size of course. Probably wait a couple years now for a new one. This will do me fine for 4K and gaming.
 
zedge said:
Fair enough but the 6300 has lower input lag than the 800D. Quite a bit too. I think I would sacrifice the 10bit for that, plus the larger size of course. Probably wait a couple years now for a new one. This will do me fine for 4K and gaming.
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I'd rather sacrifice neither. Both are important. That's why I recommend not buying at all right now. I don't want to constantly upgrade so I'd rather get it right the first time and we are right on the cusp of quality HDR being common just like apps built into the TV are now. You almost can't buy a TV without them now and pretty soon decent HDR will be the same.
 
Flandy said:
I'm confused? The ks8000 is better? You said it reviews weren't favorable for the ks8000. Looks favorable to me?



What cancellation rumors? Link?
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Does what I said not mean what I think?

I said reviews were not favorable to the KS8000. As in not favorable when compared to.


_RT_ said:
Bought the ks8000 via epp this weekend. Reading about cancelation rumors. Anyone here hit with that yet?
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Mine says prepping for shipment.
 
zedge said:
Fair enough but the 6300 has lower input lag than the 800D. Quite a bit too. I think I would sacrifice the 10bit for that, plus the larger size of course. Probably wait a couple years now for a new one. This will do me fine for 4K and gaming.
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Yeah - size is another deciding factor. I got the 65" for a G, almost no other name brand 4K/HDR sets go that low.

There's really only a small amount of HDR content out there - 99% of the media we consume at our house is SDR and will be for a long time. Having a bigger screen is nice for all content, regardless of color space.

If money was no object, you wouldn't have to pick and choose, but in the real world you have to weigh the pros/cons and pick what works best for your specific use-case.
 
spannicus said:
Tried to get tv through perks at work said i have to be an employee what gives? I was sent an invite. Maybe they caught on?
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sviri said:
Can someone give me an invite to the sale on that TV?
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Deal is over. They have removed perksatwork and even though you may see employee pricing, it won't give you the deal.

You will never see those prices again. $750 for a 55" KS8000, $1279 for a 65" version etc. Unheard of. Nothing on black friday will even touch that.
 
Madness said:
Deal is over. They have removed perksatwork and even though you may see employee pricing, it won't give you the deal.

You will never see those prices again. $750 for a 55" KS8000, $1279 for a 65" version etc. Unheard of. Nothing on black friday will even touch that.
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Damn sucks being broke.
 
Why do we have quite a few 4k HDR TVs but no one was smart enough to release monitors for the launch of PS4 Pro/ XB1 S?? -_-
 
Whats this talk about cables? My 6 year old fat HDMI's may not cut it for the KS8000? lol I thought about getting those slim Monoprice ones for aesthetic reasons anyways but it would be wacky if my old cables end up being an issue.


My KS8000 order says "preparing for shipment" so thats good news. I haven't read anything about cancellations so I hope everyone's orders go through.
 
My KS8000 shipping status has been "on hand destination station" since Friday. It was also at JFK 6 am Friday so I mean wtf it should be delivered by now.
 
Original Famous Ray said:
Whats this talk about cables? My 6 year old fat HDMI's may not cut it for the KS8000? lol I thought about getting those slim Monoprice ones for aesthetic reasons anyways but it would be wacky if my old cables end up being an issue.


My KS8000 order says "preparing for shipment" so thats good news. I haven't read anything about cancellations so I hope everyone's orders go through.
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it may be an older 1.4 cable, yeah

the Pro will come with a new cable, but if you need a longer one and want to be safe you could just order one of these:

http://www.monoprice.com/product?c_id=102&cp_id=10240&cs_id=1024021&p_id=15430&seq=1&format=2

cheap and HDMI certified
 
Original Famous Ray said:
Whats this talk about cables? My 6 year old fat HDMI's may not cut it for the KS8000? lol I thought about getting those slim Monoprice ones for aesthetic reasons anyways but it would be wacky if my old cables end up being an issue.


My KS8000 order says "preparing for shipment" so thats good news. I haven't read anything about cancellations so I hope everyone's orders go through.
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You need cables with at least 18 Gbps to transmit the data of 4K and HDR (HDMI 2.0a). It's the same way that you wouldn't try to get HD with component cables. AmazonBasics ones work great, however.
 
I think my order might have been shipped? Received notification from FedEx. It weights about 25lbs. Can't login on Samsung website but order number seems to match.
 
I ordered mine Nov. 5th even though its showing the 6th on the website. I got charged but it still says pending on my statement as well. Good to hear others are getting calls and what not though. I haven't been able to stop refreshing samsungs site either lol. I want it now so I can SEE. My order still says Preparing order for shipment.
 
Just got the LG OLED E6 to replace my 65 inch Plasma ST50. The plasma was a great TV with a great picture, but the LG is on another level. Never seen such blacks. The remote control is great and WebOS will change the way I use the TV; so fast and easy to use. I can jump from Directv to Netflix to Plex to etc etc so quickly.

I debated whether to get the E6 or the B6, and I'm so glad we went with the E because of the 3d. I know 3d is considered a gimmick by most, but the 3d on this set has totally blown me away. I've never seen 3d like this. Our old plasma had 3d, and it was ok, not great, but the picture seemed dark and a bit fuzzy and it was a total pain to keep the glasses charged and ready.

The E6 uses the passive glasses that are super lightweight and do not need to charged. The picture is very bright and I soon forget I even have the glasses on. That is a complete change from the plasma. We have always bought the blue rays that have all the versions, 3d, digital, dvd.... and I'm so glad we did. Watched 3d Finding Nemo and Zootopia yesterday and it was incredible.

I've always thought 3d was kinda cool, but this is the very first time it actually enhanced the movie watching experience. I highly recommend it if your even slightly interested.
 
NYHorn36 said:
My KS8000 shipping status has been "on hand destination station" since Friday. It was also at JFK 6 am Friday so I mean wtf it should be delivered by now.
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Shipped through AGS? Call them and ask for the number for the local hub station, that way you can schedule a delivery.

I did that yesterday with mine since it arrived at the local hub yesterday morning. Set up delivery for Wednesday between 12-5
 
Hmm I think my order has been cancelled. I noticed that the pending charge on my account has been removed and all of the funds are available.

Has this happened to anyone else? I ordered the ks8000 55 for 729.

I'm hoping it wasn't cancelled :-(
 
tommyguns said:
haha! ignore my reply above then;)

When did you schedule yours for?
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According to my tracking it says tomorrow between 9 and 3. Luckily I have a live-in super that can get packages while I'm at work, and can help me lug heavy stuff like this tv (109 lbs) up 5 floors.
 
Domcorleone said:
Hmm I think my order has been cancelled. I noticed that the pending charge on my account has been removed and all of the funds are available.

Has this happened to anyone else? I ordered the ks8000 55 for 729.

I'm hoping it wasn't cancelled :-(
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Just checked my statement again and my pending charge is still there. Maybe something happened?
 
How are you guys tracking your orders? I googled "Samsung track order" and found a page where you can enter your order # and email, but that won't work for me. Is there another way?
 
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