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Can someone explain Bachelor partys to me?

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I know that it's pretty much standard procedure to either go to a strip club or have strippers over for one, but what I don't quite understand is why you would want that if you are marrying a women you (supposedly) love. I think everyone will agree (religious or otherwise) that when you marry a women it is because she is like no other girl out there and makes you feel good all the time, so what I don't quite understand is why you would want to be around other girls like that, isn't that sort of like saying "Yeah, honey you're cool and all, but these girls' tities/butt/whatever are bigger and better than yours!"

I would like to clarify that I don't look down on people who would do that, but I've never understood why you would want to. BTW, how long exactly has bachelor partys been around?
 

bishoptl

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"Son, why do you hate freedom?"
 

Fuzzy

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My cousin got married in August and he made $2500 CAD from his bachelor party, that's why.
 

Xenon

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I think everyone will agree (religious or otherwise) that when you marry a women it is because she is like no other girl out there and makes you feel good all the time


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Its to symbolise your last day of freedom before you are to be tied down to a completely exclusive relationship. Basically you jam in all of the debauchery possible in a day as from the wedding onward you won't be able have those experiences anymore.

In my expericences most bachelor parties are thrown for the friends of the groom instead of the groom himself. They seem to have far more fun buying the guy drinks and putting him into extreme situations than he actually ends up enjoying it.
 

Azala

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Well I always figured the last day of freedom was the day before we made a relationship exclusive, so add me to the group that would genuinely call off my own wedding if there was a single scantilly clad or gyrating female at my fiance's party. Heaven forbid a group of guys (one of which claims to love and respect me and knows my feelings), can't get together and find a way to enjoy their own company.
 

AntoneM

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the tradition of it extends back to when the majority of people actually stayed married, hence the whole last day of freedom means the last day they could feasbly get out of the relationship, not the last day they could sleep around with anyone they want.
 

Blackace

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Because it is an excuse to fuck up? After this date, you'll never have another one again.

Like you said you are getting married because the woman you are marrying is something different, but is that saying you will never ever look at another woman's body again?

Even married women say things like "Johnny Depp is so sexy." Is that wrong? I don't think so, just because you are married doesn't mean your body just shuts down...

One of my favorite saying came from my boss when I was 22 or so when I caught him peaking at a nice looking young (20 years younger than him too) "I may be married but I'm not dead yet."

I think that sums it up nicely
 

GLoK

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Azala said:
Well I always figured the last day of freedom was the day before we made a relationship exclusive, so add me to the group that would genuinely call off my own wedding if there was a single scantilly clad or gyrating female at my fiance's party. Heaven forbid a group of guys (one of which claims to love and respect me and knows my feelings), can't get together and find a way to enjoy their own company.

Jesus Lord Christ, I wouldn't give you an onion ring, let alone an engagement ring with an attitude like that. Then again, I don't think I could marry anyone so insecure in themselves that they'd flip out over me seeing a stripper. Hell, I haven't even dated someone who's had a problem with my rare outtings to the peelers.

If I'm marrying someone, there's a lot more to it than how big their titties are, or how good they can spin around a pole. There's obviously a little more to the relationship. When I go see the peelers, I'm there purely to hang out with a bunch of guys, drink, and see some boobies dance around on a stage.
 

aoi tsuki

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Azala said:
Well I always figured the last day of freedom was the day before we made a relationship exclusive, so add me to the group that would genuinely call off my own wedding if there was a single scantilly clad or gyrating female at my fiance's party. Heaven forbid a group of guys (one of which claims to love and respect me and knows my feelings), can't get together and find a way to enjoy their own company.
Yeah, i've gotta agree. i've seen the appeal of the parties, but if you're committing yourself to someone, why would you risk temptation of breaking that commitment?

Blackace said:
Because it is an excuse to fuck up? After this date, you'll never have another one again.

Like you said you are getting married because the woman you are marrying is something different, but is that saying you will never ever look at another woman's body again?

Even married women say things like "Johnny Depp is so sexy." Is that wrong? I don't think so, just because you are married doesn't mean your body just shuts down...

One of my favorite saying came from my boss when I was 22 or so when I caught him peaking at a nice looking young (20 years younger than him too) "I may be married but I'm not dead yet."

I think that sums it up nicely
Does that mean i can sleep with the stripper(s) at my bachelor party and get away with it? There's a difference between finding a woman who's not your wife hot, and finding her in your lap, grinding her ass/tits/etc. in it. If my girlfriend's cool with it, then i am too. But i think engagement/marriage is a little more serious, and requires a greater commitment than just having a girlfriend/boyfriend.
 

GLoK

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aoi tsuki said:
Yeah, i've gotta agree. i've seen the appeal of the parties, but if you're committing yourself to someone, why would you risk temptation of breaking that commitment?

Bah, The test of a man's faith is not whether he can avoid situations where temptation is present, but whether he can avoid temptation in a situation where it is present.

Does that mean i can sleep with the stripper(s) at my bachelor party and get away with it? There's a difference between finding a woman who's not your wife hot, and finding her in your lap, grinding her ass/tits/etc. in it. If my girlfriend's cool with it, then i am too. But i think engagement/marriage is a little more serious, and requires a greater commitment than just having a girlfriend/boyfriend.

Whoa whoa whoa. Go easy there, who said anything about the stripper being in your lap? The last Bachelor Party I went to, there was a stripper THERE, and she'd offer lap dances if you wanted them, but she never so much as touched the Groom to be.

Unless I missed a memo, there's no pre requisite that you get a lap dance as a Groom to be at a Bachelor party.
 

aoi tsuki

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GLoK said:
Bah, The test of a man's faith is not whether he can avoid situations where temptation is present, but whether he can avoid temptation in a situation where it is present.
Why place yourself in a situation where you're going to be tempted?

GLoK said:
Whoa whoa whoa. Go easy there, who said anything about the stripper being in your lap? The last Bachelor Party I went to, there was a stripper THERE, and she'd offer lap dances if you wanted them, but she never so much as touched the Groom to be.

Unless I missed a memo, there's no pre requisite that you get a lap dance as a Groom to be at a Bachelor party.
Okay, fair enough. But then again, see my first reply.
 

Azala

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GLoK said:
Jesus Lord Christ, I wouldn't give you an onion ring, let alone an engagement ring with an attitude like that. Then again, I don't think I could marry anyone so insecure in themselves that they'd flip out over me seeing a stripper. Hell, I haven't even dated someone who's had a problem with my rare outtings to the peelers.

If I'm marrying someone, there's a lot more to it than how big their titties are, or how good they can spin around a pole. There's obviously a little more to the relationship. When I go see the peelers, I'm there purely to hang out with a bunch of guys, drink, and see some boobies dance around on a stage.

I never saw it as an issue of insecurity, but respect. Most strippers aren't exactly as they appear on television, but much more down to reality. Nor do I think they're going to want to steal anyone's boyfriend. They're thinking about taxes and laundry, or even drugs, at the most how to get more cash from you but certainly not anything more sexual or romantic. It's not exactly threatening. It's more ethical than anything for me. It's outside my comfort level. It's outside what I feel a serious relationship is - exclusive. I'm also probably a bit old fashioned and prefer that if my partner wants some sexual play he can get it from me. I'll happily run the gambit.

Outside of that, I don't see how hanging out the with guys and having a good time MUST include naked or half naked women, or licking things off their bodies or so forth. If they are really that unimportant, than the male bonding can happen anywhere. But it seems to me there is a certain degree of titillation there, and it goes above and beyond admiring beauty on the street. It's far more intimate. A bachelor party or a standard night out on the town should not be a license to explore or engage in activities outside the regular confines of an exclusive relationship.

There's nothing wrong with admitting two people are just too far apart ideologically. I'm not going to take it personally if you don't want to buy me dirt. If we're that far apart in ideals, we'll both be happier this way. *wink* If you're girlfriend is fine with you engaging in such activities, and you'd be comfortable with her doing the same, then more power to you both. As long as both parties agree.
 

ChrisReid

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Synbios459 said:
I know that it's pretty much standard procedure to either go to a strip club or have strippers over for one

Nope, I'm pretty sure most "bachelor parties" don't actually bother with strippers, and not everyone has a party to begin with. The people who have strippers for bachelor parties on the eve of their marriage are the same people who went to strip clubs before they got married and are the same people who will continue to sneak them in from time to time afterwards. *

* Was best man in my best friend's wedding last year. No strippers.
 

GLoK

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Azala, it's not that it must be there, in fact I'd say a majority of the time a group of guys would rather just go hang out at a pub. But it's always fun to round up the group and go to the peelers no less. But I digress, agreeing to disagree will have to do here.

To me, this is akin to getting angry that your husband reads the occasional smut rag or watches some porn every so often. I may cherish the woman I marry until the end of time, and never think to go against that, but I doubt very much if I'll cherish her to the point that I'll never want to see another naked woman.

and yes, to clarify, both parties do agree. I'm not the type to sneak around with my business. I'm up front in all my doings, and if my doings (in general, not just going to a strip joint)are not accepted.. well.. hey, it was fun while it lasted, better luck on your next relationship.

ChrisReid said:
Nope, I'm pretty sure most "bachelor parties" don't actually bother with strippers, and not everyone has a party to begin with. The people who have strippers for bachelor parties on the eve of their marriage are the same people who went to strip clubs before they got married and are the same people who will continue to sneak them in from time to time afterwards.

Eh, you're assuming that in all these cases, it's required that you sneak off to such events. Not really the case. My now married friend and I have gone to the peelers once or twice since his marriage 4 years ago. He loves and cherishes everything about his wife, and this is just another place for him to go blow off some steam.

His wife knows about it every time, and she doesn't care in the least. She knows at the end of the night, he's coming home to her, and he wouldn't risk that for a quick fling. I know it too, because I've seen his strength of faith tested.

aoi tsuki said:
Why place yourself in a situation where you're going to be tempted?

Because some things really aren't that tempting. I've been to the strippers a handful of times, seen some seriously gorgeous women dancing around naked infront of me, and never once been tempted to do anything other than hoot and holler.

It's also not a problem if you're able to brush temptation aside in favor of rational thinking. If you're the type that'll boink anything that makes itself available to you, and you have no control over that fact.. yeah.. I could see you taking a pass on any temptation.

But don't assume that's the case for everyone.
 
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