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[yurinka]

Nobody but me taking in even slight consideration any possibility of MHTriG being released on Wii?
After all Tri has been already released on Wii and sold quite well, so in my opinion it would me the most natural choice, with a strong userbase and good chances to outsell the previous version.

Besides it would be much easier and cheaper just to stick to the Tri version as it is, instead of having to port it to other platforms or rebuilding it from scratch(3DS, Vita), or having to downgrade it(PSP).

Wii version did it decently, so it's possible. But PSP versions sell like 4x more and they won't ignore it. 3DS is not performing as Wii did back in the time when they cancelled MH3 for PS3 and moved it to Wii. And difference between Vita and 3DS budgets isn't the same that back in the time was between Wii and PS3.

So I assume they will prefer PSP way or Vita way (with virtually free PS3 port). And maybe a 3DS port, specially if it's released in PSP.

 

[Jinfash]

Yeah, Rhythm Thief. Parts of other rumors were confirmed too (Shining Blade trademark, Vita in 2010) and with every Nintendo rumor they said announced in September, playable at TGS, which also sort of alludes to the 3DS Conference that was just confirmed.

No, that was a separate rumor.

I think the list is legit as well, although Bayo de-confirmation might have put a slight dent on its legitimacy, but I'm still hoping that Inaba was just trying to fight shoddy journalism back.

 

[StuBurns]

The reason I don't believe the Tri Portable for 3DS with P3rd HD for PSV rumour is that's effectively ignoring by far the most important platform, the PSP. It's not going to get a P3rd HD SD, because they already have it. Giving the 3DS an exclusive and ignoring your three million strong consumer base is utterly asinine.

I'm not saying Capcom aren't that stupid, but they shouldn't be.

 

[Fantastical]

My body is ready for Resident Evil 6, so I hope we get to see it in some form. I'm more than a little afraid of what Capcom might planning for it, though.

 

[StuBurns]

Between the RE5 DLC, and what it looks like they're doing with the 3DS game, I am very excited to see RE6. RE5 itself was lame, but I think they'll get it right this time.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

The reason I don't believe the Tri Portable for 3DS with P3rd HD for PSV rumour is that's effectively ignoring by far the most important platform, the PSP. It's not going to get a P3rd HD SD, because they already have it. Giving the 3DS an exclusive and ignoring your three million strong consumer base is utterly asinine.

I'm not saying Capcom aren't that stupid, but they shouldn't be.

 

[StuBurns]

The kind of money hat needed would be obscene, Nintendo are going to win anyway, giving Capcom a hundred million dollars isn't going to help.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

The kind of money hat needed would be obscene, Nintendo are going to win anyway, giving Capcom a hundred million dollars isn't going to help.

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/stock/meeting/110629qa/04.html

Nintendo wants to win in style. And how an exclusive Monster Hunter isn't going to help? LOL

That game ALONE is the reason why PSP is performing well in Japan right now. Let's not.

 

[ezekial45]

Does that mean they're going to cancel DmC?

Why would they do that?

 

[StuBurns]

http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/stock/meeting/110629qa/04.html

Nintendo wants to win in style. And how an exclusive Monster Hunter isn't going to help? LOL

That game ALONE is the reason why PSP is performing well in Japan right now. Let's not.

A hundred million dollars is like thirty pokemon games. Yes, MH would help them, an exclusive MH would help them more, but they could use the money far more wisely I imagine. They didn't have a Monster Hunter this time, and they've sold like double the PSP.

 

[StuBurns]

Don't they have to eventually make the transition to the next-gen, before a competitor copies the idea and puts enough effort in it ? Also putting your by far biggest portable franchise exclusivly on a handheld that's not even out yet doesn't seem particularly smart to me either.

I wouldn't be surprised if they released a MH game on 3DS and PSV, maybe only to see on which platform to focus with the franchise.

While the install bases of both handhelds are crap, there's no need to drop PSP support. They can support all three platforms quite easily. Unless as Sammy Samusu suggested, a moneyhat is involved.

 

[madmaxx350]

Don't they have to eventually make the transition to the next-gen, before a competitor copies the idea and puts enough effort in it ? Also putting your by far biggest portable franchise exclusivly on a handheld that's not even out yet doesn't seem particularly smart to me either.

I wouldn't be surprised if they released a MH game on 3DS and PSV, maybe only to see on which platform to focus with the franchise.

I don't think they'd want to fragment the install base by releasing two exclusives MH. The way I see it happening is if a new extension happens , I see it coming out on 3DS, Vita and PSP(where they will get way more sales than anywhere else).

 

[Phonomezer]

Looking forward to more Dragon's Dogma.

 

[Grimmy]

While the install bases of both handhelds are crap, there's no need to drop PSP support. They can support all three platforms quite easily. Unless as Sammy Samusu suggested, a moneyhat is involved.

The smartest thing Capcom can do is bring out MHP3G on both the PSP and the PSV, and have the two versions playable with one another.

A 3DS version doesn't make sense to me at all. As said before, why fragment the user base?

 

[The Mana Legend]

Nintendo handhelds already basically own Dragon Quest and Pokemon. I can't imagine what it would be if Monster Hunter joined their ranks.

 

[StuBurns]

The smartest thing Capcom can do is bring out MHP3G on both the PSP and the PSV, and have the two versions playable with one another.

A 3DS version doesn't make sense to me at all. As said before, why fragment the user base?

Why would it have to? It's true I don't know of any games that allow play between PSP and 3/DS but if anyone has the pull to do it it's Capcom with MH I imagine.

 

[Father_Brain]

Why would it have to? It's true I don't know of any games that allow play between PSP and 3/DS but if anyone has the pull to do it it's Capcom with MH I imagine.

I cannot imagine that either Nintendo or Sony would ever allow this, no matter how big the title in question.

 

[muu]

The smartest thing Capcom can do is bring out MHP3G on both the PSP and the PSV, and have the two versions playable with one another.

A 3DS version doesn't make sense to me at all. As said before, why fragment the user base?

Fragmentation is probably the least of their worries. In an ideal world they'd be playable cross platform, but we don't live in one, and so far it seems they're able to sell PSP, Wii and MO iterations just fine. The way they're pushing MHF it's probably one of their biggest money makers, just like the way FF11 has been for Square-Enix.

Not releasing MH for 3DS will be similar to Activision making MW3 a Xbox exclusive. It might prevent fragmentation, but you're going to end up with a lot of new Battlefield devotees. No need to unnecessarily give Monster Hunter clones the chance to establish their franchises.

 

[lunchwithyuzo]

The reason I don't believe the Tri Portable for 3DS with P3rd HD for PSV rumour is that's effectively ignoring by far the most important platform, the PSP. It's not going to get a P3rd HD SD, because they already have it. Giving the 3DS an exclusive and ignoring your three million strong consumer base is utterly asinine.

I'm not saying Capcom aren't that stupid, but they shouldn't be.

If it happens it'll be the result of both big moneyhats and previously inked deals. No doubt Nintendo has Tri locked down ironclad, given it never migrated to PS3/360 and P3 was changed to such a degree as to be basically an entirely different game (this wasn't really the case with P1-2 either). Likewise I've no doubt Sony's locked down P3 too... essentially Capcom's given Nintendo and Sony their own games, and are playing off that wherever possible with ports. It's not in essence a console/handheld spli, it's a Nintendo/Sony split.

Later on, maybe we'll still see PSP/PS3/Vita get P3G, and even Tri G HD Version for Wii U?

 

[StuBurns]

I cannot imagine that either Nintendo or Sony would ever allow this, no matter how big the title in question.

Why? Sony and MS allowed play together in FFXI.

 

[Father_Brain]

Fragmentation is probably the least of their worries. In an ideal world they'd be playable cross platform, but we don't live in one, and so far it seems they're able to sell PSP, Wii and MO iterations just fine. The way they're pushing MHF it's probably one of their biggest money makers, just like the way FF11 has been for Square-Enix.

Not releasing MH for 3DS will be similar to Activision making MW3 a Xbox exclusive. It might prevent fragmentation, but you're going to end up with a lot of new Battlefield devotees. No need to unnecessarily give Monster Hunter clones the chance to establish their franchises.

This ignores that MHP's enormous popularity is founded on local multiplayer, not online. Unless Nintendo and Sony allowed cross-platform play between PSP/Vita and 3DS, a multiplatform MHP absolutely would fragment the user base in a way that's far more significant than the fragmentation between 360 and PS3 CoD players.

 

[theMrCravens]

Where is Mega Man 11?

100% this.
I need my 8-bit retro fix soon.

 

[madmaxx350]

Fragmentation is probably the least of their worries. In an ideal world they'd be playable cross platform, but we don't live in one, and so far it seems they're able to sell PSP, Wii and MO iterations just fine. The way they're pushing MHF it's probably one of their biggest money makers, just like the way FF11 has been for Square-Enix.

Not releasing MH for 3DS will be similar to Activision making MW3 a Xbox exclusive. It might prevent fragmentation, but you're going to end up with a lot of new Battlefield devotees. No need to unnecessarily give Monster Hunter clones the chance to establish their franchises.

The question wasn't that they wouldn't release on 3DS but some people really believe that 3DS will get a new exclusive tri expansion while Vita would get a port of MHP3 which to me doesn't make any sense, if a new expansion was being worked on the PSP would definitely get it, there is no way it'd be 3DS exclusive.

 

[Father_Brain]

The question wasn't that they wouldn't release on 3DS but some people really believe that 3DS will get a new exclusive tri expansion while Vita would get a port of MHP3 which to me doesn't make any sense, if a new expansion was being worked on the PSP would definitely get it, there is no way it'd be 3DS exclusive.

If Nintendo hadn't nailed down Tri exclusivity, I have little doubt that a PS3 port would have been announced ages ago.

 

[Grimmy]

Fragmentation is probably the least of their worries. In an ideal world they'd be playable cross platform, but we don't live in one, and so far it seems they're able to sell PSP, Wii and MO iterations just fine. The way they're pushing MHF it's probably one of their biggest money makers, just like the way FF11 has been for Square-Enix.

Not releasing MH for 3DS will be similar to Activision making MW3 a Xbox exclusive. It might prevent fragmentation, but you're going to end up with a lot of new Battlefield devotees. No need to unnecessarily give Monster Hunter clones the chance to establish their franchises.

I'm not sure if I buy your logic. The 3DS has certain strengths, and even though it has more horsepower now, I don't really know if it's really all that suited to having MH-type games on it. And as mentioned, I think Capcom fragmenting its MH userbase will do great harm to the longevity of the series.

To me the dual analog gives the Vita an edge when it comes to these types of games - I'm sure some people will be relieved that "the claw" is relegated to the dustbin of history (I will be!). If given a chance, would I play an MH on the Vita or the 3DS? The answer seems kinda obvious.

But then, there are other games that I think are good for 3DS and I can't see it on the PSVita, like Phoenix Wright. Both should stay on their respective handhelds, IMO.

This ignores that MHP's enormous popularity is founded on local multiplayer, not online. Unless Nintendo and Sony allowed cross-platform play between PSP/Vita and 3DS, a multiplatform MHP absolutely would fragment the user base in a way that's far more significant than the fragmentation between 360 and PS3 CoD players.

Exactly. You put it very succinctly.

 

[DCharlie]

Giving the 3DS an exclusive and ignoring your three million strong consumer base is utterly asinine.

depends what Capcom's deal with Nintendo was - if it was for a one off Monster Hunter exclusive (with a portable allowed) and -thats it- then yeah - they aren't going to ignore the PSP base for a second.

However, if they are tied into a multi game contract with nintendo for MH then it'll be interesting to see what they do especially if it's a game for 3DS where they can't make a PSP equivalent version.

Ideally for Capcom it looks like doing MH4th PSP/3DS with MH4th HD for PSV/PS3 would be the way to go. All depends what deals were done and are being done i guess.

This ignores that MHP's enormous popularity is founded on local multiplayer, not online. Unless Nintendo and Sony allowed cross-platform play between PSP/Vita and 3DS, a multiplatform MHP absolutely would fragment the user base in a way that's far more significant than the fragmentation between 360 and PS3 CoD players.

If MH4th or whatever came out on the 3DS and the PSP then i think the 3DS version would fair pretty badly. It'd pick up sales from curious new players in Japan who managed to ignore the PSP version but it seems unlikely it would significantly fracture the existing userbase if the MH platform of choice has a version (if released same date)

 

[StuBurns]

depends what Capcom's deal with Nintendo was - if it was for a one off Monster Hunter exclusive (with a portable allowed) and -thats it- then yeah - they aren't going to ignore the PSP base for a second.

However, if they are tied into a multi game contract with nintendo for MH then it'll be interesting to see what they do especially if it's a game for 3DS where they can't make a PSP equivalent version.

Ideally for Capcom it looks like doing MH4th PSP/3DS with MH4th HD for PSV/PS3 would be the way to go. All depends what deals were done and are being done i guess.

How long would it take to get a MH4 to market? We have to be talking a year even if they announce it at TGS, and another six months for portable iterations. MH is the only thing PSP has that matters. Without a title the PSP won't be viable by the time they'd be ready to ship a MHP4th I think.

 

[MiamiWesker]

They better reveal Resident Evil 6. Starring Barry Burton.

 

[Father_Brain]

If MH4th or whatever came out on the 3DS and the PSP then i think the 3DS version would fair pretty badly. It'd pick up sales from curious new players in Japan who managed to ignore the PSP version but it seems unlikely it would significantly fracture the existing userbase if the MH platform of choice has a version (if released same date)

Oh, no doubt. By multiplatform, I was thinking 3DS/Vita, not PSP/3DS.

 

[DCharlie]

How long would it take to get a MH4 to market? We have to be talking a year even if they announce it at TGS, and another six months for portable iterations. MH is the only thing PSP has that matters. Without a title the PSP won't be viable by the time they'd be ready to ship a MHP4th I think.

depends what it's based on - and what they've been doing. MH3rd PSP is pretty good but needs more content basically. An MHP4th with the return of a slew of old monsters (a la Unite) and a heavy smattering of new bosses, some gameplay tweaks, could all be done on the existing engine. PSV/PS3 HD path is pretty much set so that expands the demographic and assumedly the 3DS could handle the port too.

I don't see any reason for Capcom to throw their hat in with -just- the 3DS or -just- the Vita, given the size of the PSP fanbase coupled with the fact that worst case Vita could run PSP version via B/C.

You are right though - it all depends on timing - if Capcom can shunt out a new MH quickly then it'll do well, if it goes into next year it'll be interesting to see what platforms it comes out on.

I don't expect to see a true PS3/X360/Wii/Wii U game - PS3 might get frontier, X360 will get updated Frontier of course, but i think they probably see other avenues as better money makers. Economically, the PSP/PSV/PS3HD/3DS route looks like where they could hit the $$$ but yeah - timing , timing, timing.

By multiplatform, I was thinking 3DS/Vita, not PSP/3DS.

yeah, that's going to be interesting to watch - will be interesting to see what decission people make on platform if Vita/3DS happened.

 

[muu]

This ignores that MHP's enormous popularity is founded on local multiplayer, not online. Unless Nintendo and Sony allowed cross-platform play between PSP/Vita and 3DS, a multiplatform MHP absolutely would fragment the user base in a way that's far more significant than the fragmentation between 360 and PS3 CoD players.

I agree that the success it attained as a 'communication tool' of sorts was due to exclusivity to the PSP, but I still don't see multiple iterations doing more harm than good. Few years down the road when it's 3DS vs PSV and the PSP is out of the picture, there's going to be a lot of people that's got one handheld but not the other. If you ignore the 3DS side, you're going to give 3DS versions of say, God Eater or Phantasy Star Portable, a chance to become 'the game' for pockets of communities where the 3DS vastly outnumber PSV. Give it time and MH's leading title position may not be as dominant as it is now.

If you were mostly meaning that it's too early for a 3DS version, I'd definitely agree with that. They could release MHP3G for PSP/Vita, sell 4million units and THEN think about sending a jab to anyone that dares try selling clones on the 3DS.

 

[StuBurns]

depends what it's based on - and what they've been doing. MH3rd PSP is pretty good but needs more content basically. An MHP4th with the return of a slew of old monsters (a la Unite) and a heavy smattering of new bosses, some gameplay tweaks, could all be done on the existing engine. PSV/PS3 HD path is pretty much set so that expands the demographic and assumedly the 3DS could handle the port too.

I guess it's semantics, to me a MHP4th would be a portable version of a new console game, what you're asking for is MHP3rdG basically, which the rumours suggest is 3DS exclusive. That's what I saw as unlikely, because it'd put a new PSP iteration to probably two years away, at which point the PSP will be dead. The PSV might have a five million install base in Japan two years from now of course, in which case they'd be back selling high numbers. But it seems like leaving $100M on the table to not get another iteration out on PSP next year.

I don't see any reason for Capcom to throw their hat in with -just- the 3DS or -just- the Vita, given the size of the PSP fanbase coupled with the fact that worst case Vita could run PSP version via B/C.

I can think of two good reasons to only foster one user base, technologically the devices are very different. Going PSV only means they can put MH4 on the consoles (or even just PS3 possibly to truly unify the user base), and easily port to PSV. The other reason, which I just alluded to, is to avoid fragmenting the player base. The whole monster hunter party concept could be hurt by being on platforms that don't allow play between them. If Sony and Nintendo bro up and allow people to play cross platform that's not an issue of course.

You are right though - it all depends on timing - if Capcom can shunt out a new MH quickly then it'll do well, if it goes into next year it'll be interesting to see what platforms it comes out on.

I don't expect to see a true PS3/X360/Wii/Wii U game - PS3 might get frontier, X360 will get updated Frontier of course, but i think they probably see other avenues as better money makers. Economically, the PSP/PSV/PS3HD/3DS route looks like where they could hit the $$$ but yeah - timing , timing, timing.

To me I see them pushing for the game to take off worldwide, to do that it needs to be on the consoles. To be massive on handhelds they've already shown they can do it on PSP alone. So PS360 for MH4, PSV for MHP4th would be where I'd see them go I think.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

Some of you keep mentioning the "splitting the userbase" theory and all I have to say is: PSP is about to die, it's the end of that o called userbase.

Now we are talking about two new platforms, drop the PSP thing please.

 

[Grimmy]

If you were mostly meaning that it's too early for a 3DS version, I'd definitely agree with that. They could release MHP3G for PSP/Vita, sell 4million units and THEN think about sending a jab to anyone that dares try selling clones on the 3DS.

Sorry, but it's been repeated in this thread a few times, and I don't understand this logic. Why do people assume that MH has to be on the 3DS in order to prevent clones from selling? And why do people think these 3DS clones will actually turn out well or sell?

Some of you keep mentioning the "splitting the userbase" theory and all I have to say is: PSP is about to die, it's the end of that o called userbase.

Now we are talking about two new platforms, drop the PSP thing please.

You must be joking. You obviously don't follow Media Create. The PSP is far more alive than a system that's about to get a new DQ

 

[StuBurns]

Some of you keep mentioning the "splitting the userbase" theory and all I have to say is: PSP is about to die, it's the end of that o called userbase.

Now we are talking about two new platforms, drop the PSP thing please.

I think you misunderstand what people are saying.

 

[Lance Bone Path]

yeah, that's going to be interesting to watch - will be interesting to see what decission people make on platform if Vita/3DS happened.

It would make more sense to lump 3DS in with the PSP and the wii, and lump the vita in with the PS3, if they have any interest in expanding the series in the west.

Just my opinion, but making another monster hunter game for the wii is pointless if the wii u is coming out soon.

 

[nns3d]

Where is Mega Man 11?

The same place Viewtiful Joe 3 is.

Spoiler

 

[Sammy Samusu]

I think you misunderstand what people are saying.

Nah, I know some people are mentioning future games on 3DS and PSV, but Capcom will be the first to pull the plug if a multiplatform format doesn't work. Which handheld are they going to choose? Who knows.

If Nintendo DS was capable of running Monster Hunter, I'm sure Capcom would have tested that platform as well. I don't buy the splitting userbase theory, sorry.

I'm just going to sit and wait for the next Monster Hunter game, cause this 3DS vs Vita discussion is growing old, bye!

 

[Spiegel]

Some of you keep mentioning the "splitting the userbase" theory and all I have to say is: PSP is about to die, it's the end of that o called userbase.

Now we are talking about two new platforms, drop the PSP thing please.

PSP will easily last until the theoretical G version of MHP3 is released. MHG was released 10 months after MH and MHP2G 13 months after MHP2

The real question is if Capcom plans to release a G version or not.

As I said before the most sensible financial option (imo, of course, and if big moneyhats aren't involved) would be:
- MHP3 for PSP announced at the TGS
- Released 4-6 months later

After that, Capcom can port the game to any of the 2 new handhelds and wait until the userbase is big enough to release MHP4.

That's why these MH3G 3DS rumors and missing the oportunity of launching MHP3G on PSP because of that makes little sense to me, even if everything points to MH3G being real.

But yeah, I'm growing tired of these MH discussions. At least we won't have to wait long to know what Capcom is going to do.

 

[Lance Bone Path]

Nah, I know some people are mentioning future games on 3DS and PSV, but Capcom will be the first to pull the plug if a multiplatform format doesn't work. Which handheld are they going to choose?

iPhone. Look forward to Monster Hunter Dynamic Hunting G.

 

[Sammy Samusu]

iPhone. Look forward to Monster Hunter Dynamic Hunting G.

 

[HYDE]

I hope the DMC 1/3 HD remakes, like RE 4, rumors pan out.