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Captured 17-Foot Python Holding 87 Eggs Shows Invasive Power of Species

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ReaperXL7

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Captured 17-Foot Python Holding 87 Eggs Shows Invasive Power of Species, Biologists Say

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It has been known for a while that pythons are invading the Everglades and feasting on all manner of cherished species in Everglades National Park. Now scientists at the University of Florida have nabbed the longest one found yet: a 17-foot-long female carrying a record 87 eggs.

The python is 17.5 feet long and weighed 164.5 pounds, the university said in a statement. After being captured in March, tagged, and let loose to spy on its brethren, the snake was picked up again in April and later euthanized, then dissected in a necropsy earlier this month. That’s when they found the eggs.

Three of the 87 eggs found in the oviducts of the 17-foot-long Burmese python captured in the Everglades in 2012.

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“This thing is monstrous, it’s about a foot wide,” said Florida Museum herpetology collection manager Kenneth Krysko in the statement. “It means these snakes are surviving a long time in the wild, there’s nothing stopping them and the native wildlife are in trouble.”

Authorities have known for quite some time that Burmese pythons are gobbling up the fragile ecosystem’s animals—ranging from raccoons and birds to deer, bobcats, alligators and other hapless creatures. But this catch in particular demonstrates the snakes’ chokehold on their surroundings.

A study published by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) the journal PNAS: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America in January documented the toll on local wildlife. Without natural predators, this invasive species may be set to decimate its adopted environment, biologists say.

“I think one of the important facts about this animal is its reproductive capability,” Park biologist Skip Snow said in the statement. “There are not many records of how many eggs a large female snake carries in the wild. This shows they’re a really reproductive animal, which aids in their invasiveness.”

The previous record, the university said, was 16.8 feet long with 85 eggs.

http://indiancountrytodaymedianetwo...vasive-power-of-species-biologists-say-129533

There is video of the capture at the bottom of the page in the link.

What say you Gaf? do you think if it's possible to do something about a single species that could seriously endanger it's surronding ecosystem should it be done? I'm not sure how I feel about wiping out a species is a good idea, but if there was a way to control the population I don't think i'd be opposed.
 

Grakl

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I think that it's poisonous to have something like this ravaging an ecosystem, but killing off species is usually bad for biodiversity.

edit:
Oh, I didn't know that it wasn't native. Yeah, killing it off is probably fine. I need to read the nonbolded parts as well.

Stop quoting me, lest you make me feel self-conscious.
 

Dali

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Why wouldn't you be for wiping out the species if possible in this particular case? They aren't native and are killing all the native animals.
 

Grakl

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Oh, I didn't know that it wasn't native. Yeah, killing it off is probably fine. I need to read the nonbolded parts as well.
 

Rentahamster

Rodent Whores
What say you Gaf? do you think if it's possible to do something about a single species that could seriously endanger it's surronding ecosystem should it be done?
Eat 'em

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=466983

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I think that it's poisonous to have something like this ravaging an ecosystem, but killing off species is usually bad for biodiversity.

How is killing off a species that isn't supposed to be there in the first place bad for biodiversity? It's the presence of the foreign species that is messing up the biodiversity to begin with.
 

ReaperXL7

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Why wouldn't you be for wiping out the species if possible in this particular case? They aren't native and are killing all the native animals.

Well personally i'm actually undecided about wiping them out for quite a few reasons, some of which i'd just get blasted on Gaf for. In this case I actually somewhat think it might be needed due to fraiglity of the everglades overall, but I always remember those stories/ or episodes of shows where one non-native animales are let loose, then you keep releasing more to fix the issue but it only ends up making it worse.

Though I admit that I have little knowledge in how they would be wiped out to begin with, or the population be brought under control. It's a dangerous situation for sure though.
 

MThanded

I Was There! Official L Receiver 2/12/2016
Well personally i'm actually undecided about wiping them out for quite a few reasons, some of which i'd just get blasted on Gaf for. In this case I actually somewhat think it might be needed due to fraiglity of the everglades overall, but I always remember those stories/ or episodes of shows where one non-native animales are let loose, then you keep releasing more to fix the issue but it only ends up making it worse.

Though I admit that I have little knowledge in how they would be wiped out to begin with, or the population be brought under control. It's a dangerous situation for sure though.
I'm interested in this.
 

Razek

Banned
Well personally i'm actually undecided about wiping them out for quite a few reasons, some of which i'd just get blasted on Gaf for. In this case I actually somewhat think it might be needed due to fraiglity of the everglades overall, but I always remember those stories/ or episodes of shows where one non-native animales are let loose, then you keep releasing more to fix the issue but it only ends up making it worse.

Though I admit that I have little knowledge in how they would be wiped out to begin with, or the population be brought under control. It's a dangerous situation for sure though.

I guess I just can't really think of any reasons why they should be allowed to continue. It seems there is quite a bit of evidence that leaving them in the wild would be absolutely disastrous. You're sure you wouldn't like to share?

Edit: I'm generally curious. It could be a fun discussion.
 

Suikoguy

I whinny my fervor lowly, for his length is not as great as those of the Hylian war stallions
I wonder if putting a bounty on them would make enough of a dent...

They are apparently tough to hunt.
 
We need to find a way to export that meat to other countries. Claim the meat has magical properties and turns you into a grower.
 

Biff

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A study published by the U.S. Geological Survey (USGS) the journal PNAS: Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America in January documented the toll on local wildlife. Without natural predators, this invasive species may be set to decimate its adopted environment, biologists say.

....The journal's acronym... is... PNAS?
 

ReaperXL7

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So i'll ask this, how would they be able to get rid of these snakes without risking the endangerment of the everglades in the process? I would think things like poisons, and or traps would have too much of a possibility to capture or injure animals other than the pythons. I suppose hunting them would be the best option, but how would you know if you've gotten rid of them completely?

I fully admit that i'm not as knowledgeable as i'd like to be on how a situation like this would be handeled in a safe manner without the risk of effecting the ecosystem around it.
 

Amakusa

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For some reason, I REALLY REALLY want to toss that bad boy on a grill with some onions, bell peppers (green and red)Hot and spicey BBQ sauce. The Mid section, with eggs still inside, no skin, all meat and eggs. I'm hungry right now... should have went to lunch *sighs*
 

Razek

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So i'll ask this, how would they be able to get rid of these snakes without risking the endangerment of the everglades in the process? I would think things like poisons, and or traps would have too much of a possibility to capture or injure animals other than the pythons. I suppose hunting them would be the best option, but how would you know if you've gotten rid of them completely?

I fully admit that i'm not as knowledgeable as i'd like to be on how a situation like this would be handeled in a safe manner without the risk of effecting the ecosystem around it.

The snakes are most likely here to stay. However, the goal is to control the population to an extent where they can not cause any ecological harm. Getting rid of every snake is impossible. From my research, the goal seems to be:
  1. Conduct research using a variety of traps, locators, and other monitoring techniques to figure out the pythons breeding areas and population sites.
  2. Use special traps to capture pythons.
  3. Make it permissible and advisable to kill any found pythons.
  4. Pay bounties for location of the snakes (I smell a TV series).

Whether the traps are going to cause harm to other creatures or not, I'm not sure at this point.

I obtained my information from:
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/uw286
 

ReaperXL7

Member
The snakes are most likely here to stay. However, the goal is to control the population to an extent where they can not cause any ecological harm. Getting rid of every snake is impossible. From my research, the goal seems to be:
  1. Conduct research using a variety of traps, locators, and other monitoring techniques to figure out the pythons breeding areas and population sites.
  2. Use special traps to capture pythons.
  3. Make it permissible and advisable to kill any found pythons.
  4. Pay bounties for location of the snakes (I smell a TV series).

Whether the traps are going to cause harm to other creatures or not, I'm not sure at this point.

I obtained my information from:
http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/uw286

Interesting, i'd more than likely be all for getting rid of them if they can ensure as little impact on the everglades as possible, so if these steps could do so than I would not see an issue with them.

On another note (due to that link) I was not aware that these pythons were on a path to endangerment themselves due to pet trade. If these snakes became truely endangered would that make selling them illegal? It's sad to see situations like this happen largely due to people buying animals that should not be "pets" to begin with.
 
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