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Carmageddon: Reincarnation Kickstarter by Stainless Games [Ended, $625K funded]
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My first too, but there is now way I'm not backing this ^^ Carmageddon 1 and 2 was awesome.
CharmingCharlie
Member
I don't see anything on Kickstarter that states it should purely be used to raise money "to get a project going that would otherwise be doomed". Stainless are trying to produce a game and they want to avoid (if possible) any publisher interference.
I would even say getting a publisher to back a game like Carmageddon would be incredibly difficult in this day and age. I can't think of any publisher that would take an IP like Carmageddon onto their books due to its controversial themes.
They want to make the game, they need money to do that (they have already spent over $300,000 getting the name back). So they have turned to Kickstarter to see if they can get the fans to fund it. I honestly don't see the problem, hell if you pledge $15 you get a copy of the game when it is released so it is kinda like a super advanced pre-order.
At the end of the day I want to see Carmageddon on my PC and if that means I have to make an "advanced payment" for my copy of the game then that isn't a huge thing to ask of me. I hope you change your mind
Fallout-NL
Member
They've got a 600 horsepower Carmageddon Range Rover? Sounds like they spent their money on the wrong things.
MrCunningham
Member
Keep the physics a bit exaggerated like the original, but update the car damage models.
Also bring back the cows that run away from you at light speed! But this is awesome and unexpected. I will probably back it later. Though what is interesting about this game is that they already have part of it funded , as the lead designer said in the video, and are looking at Kickstarter to pay the rest of the bills.
Resistance100
Member
Finally a Kickstarter project i want to help out
Hope they do a good job of it
Hope they do a good job of it
this is an incredibly stupid post given the fact that they left Eidos at the beginning of 00s and bought the rights from Square Enix in 2011. They weren't making a game for a publisher. They bought the rights last year to make the game themselves. FFS research before you post.
Teknopathetic
Member
"What games has he been involved in since Carmageddon? I'm sure he's a very nice, honest, hard-working gentleman, but I'd hate to find out one year from now that he ran out of money and can't complete the game."
I don't know what games he personally has worked on, but his company made the first Magic the Gathering: Duels of the Planeswalker and Risk: Factions, on top of a bunch of other XBLA games.
I don't know what games he personally has worked on, but his company made the first Magic the Gathering: Duels of the Planeswalker and Risk: Factions, on top of a bunch of other XBLA games.
I *think* that only applies for situations where the people donating are doing so in the hope of future revenue, but I may be wrong. And I don't think it's illegal as much as requires more oversight. That said, I may be talking complete rubbish.
In short: It's not illegal so much as not legal. It's not against the law, it's just not *covered* by the law. I think.
VibratingDonkey
Member
The way it's worded it sounds like this is more about securing full creative control than funding the game's existence.
I really liked Carmageddon 2, but that was over a decade ago. Not fully convinced they've still got what it takes to make a good, relevant Carmageddon game. But I'm enticed enough to go for a discounted pre-order.
I really liked Carmageddon 2, but that was over a decade ago. Not fully convinced they've still got what it takes to make a good, relevant Carmageddon game. But I'm enticed enough to go for a discounted pre-order.
superdeluxe
Member
Ks is making me poor!
Joseph Merrick
Member
err I'll wait with backing until they can confirm if they're planning for it to be steam only or not
Hell he didn't even need to research, they say it in the video.
AzureSkies
Member
Would I be able to pledge $15 or $25 if I'm in Canada?
Foliorum Viridum
Banned
I'm not donating but I hope it gets made.
Noisepurge
Member
oh don't be such a sourpuss
still doesn't explain that custom Range Rover and all ;D(backed for 15$)
Backfoggen
Banned
I'll check that out, but I got the original working in Windows 7 using some ddraw.dll file made by fans. It works great, forgot how awesome the game is.
Pity it's without powerups and the author appears to have ceased development.
Backfoggen
Banned
Damn, I could have sworn that when I tried it way back it had everything. That's a shame.
Anyways apperantly Stainless had to jump through some hoops to get on Kickstarter.
http://www.edge-online.com/news/stainless-hopes-fund-new-carmageddon-through-kickstarter
Anyways apperantly Stainless had to jump through some hoops to get on Kickstarter.
http://www.edge-online.com/news/stainless-hopes-fund-new-carmageddon-through-kickstarter
CharmingCharlie
Member
Max Damage had a bit of good news to share on Twitter :-
https://twitter.com/#!/Max_Damage/status/200229833056329729
I have never bothered with any kickstarter's before but I imagine raising 100 grand in the space of 24 hours is pretty good going/ Obviously it will slow down eventually, but the 400k target is looking feasible right now with 28 days to go.
As a fine gentlemen of the British Isles may I take the opportunity to say that this country sucks balls. I really cannot understand why it is "illegal" for this kind of thing in the UK. But then 99% the crap the Government pulls these days is completely moronic.
Max Damage said:
https://twitter.com/#!/Max_Damage/status/200229833056329729
I have never bothered with any kickstarter's before but I imagine raising 100 grand in the space of 24 hours is pretty good going/ Obviously it will slow down eventually, but the 400k target is looking feasible right now with 28 days to go.
As a fine gentlemen of the British Isles may I take the opportunity to say that this country sucks balls. I really cannot understand why it is "illegal" for this kind of thing in the UK. But then 99% the crap the Government pulls these days is completely moronic.
It's very good going. We've had a few projects that have completely blown things away in the first 24 hours (I think DFA was on a million by that point), but breaking the $100k barrier that rapidly is definitely a good sign.
I think his post there was about Kickstarter's rules, not the UK's laws.
Why did they can the XBLA version? Licensing costs? Considering their last few games have been on XBLA, and that the programming would be almost identical to the PC version, it seems like a bit of a cop out. Hell, they're probably even designing the controls around the 360 controller. Hopefully they'll change their mind at some point, it's about time consoles got a (decent) Carmageddon.
It's expensive to put games on XBLA and sales are way way down on that platform.
The game was originally announced for "today's platforms", but that was when Stainless was optimistic about finding a co-developer/publisher to help fund development. From what's been said about just how far the $400k (minus fees and expenses) will allow Stainless to go, it seems that development will be iterative, in which case PC exclusivity is the wisest choice until the entire game is complete.
MrCunningham
Member
Wow.
At this rate, it will be funded in 4-5 days. I wonder if they have any special initiatives planed after that? Mac version, Linux version? Console/ iOS ports?
At this rate, it will be funded in 4-5 days. I wonder if they have any special initiatives planed after that? Mac version, Linux version? Console/ iOS ports?
I expect it to die down somewhat soonish to a more steady rate, but it's quite possible it'll be funded by then.
Given they're going for an iterative development process, it makes stretch goals a little awkward; how do you promise new gameplay features that couldn't just be assumed as "something that was coming in the next iteration anyway"? If they delay the game to add new features, how is that any different from just releasing one iteration later along the schedule?
To that end, I'm expecting stretch goals to be something tangential to the game itself; ports, as you suggested, would be the most obvious choice. If they do want stretch goals in the form of new features, I'd imagine they'd have to be something that's not directly 'adding more stuff to the game'; I can't help but think that toolsets for importing skins, models and maybe even levels would be distinct enough that they're not simply part of the iterative development plan but still something that it'd be plausible that the scope was being expanded to include.
A boxed product has been added at $150 tier!
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stainlessgames/carmageddon-reincarnation/posts
http://www.kickstarter.com/projects/stainlessgames/carmageddon-reincarnation/posts
Vert boil
Member
subversus, I edited the new tier into my previous post if you want to update the OP - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=37673635&postcount=77
153k, Glad this is going so well.
153k, Glad this is going so well.
MmmSkyscraper
Unconfirmed Member
I just got the original Carmageddon working with a 360 controller, it's fantastic. Any chance of a gog.com release?
Nice!
Nice!
I'd assume the rights to the original games would have remained with SCi, who in turn would have been absorbed ultimately into Squeenix - in other words, I think the right deals are in place for it to happen.
MrCunningham
Member
It's painful when so many old classics like this one get lost through ownership rights. The same thing with the original Wasteland. We will probably never see that one back in retail (on services like GOG) ever again either.
When the Wasteland 2 Kickstarter began I thought I'd try to track down a copy. Got lucky on an ebay auction for the Ultimate RPG Archives for <£20, but most of the copies I found were significantly more than that.
Oh, excellent. I'm sure they've got a measured and calm response to this story.