Templar Wizard
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im coming to the end of season2, and i KNOW its going to be a cliff hanger ending, but what are the chances of a third?
Carnivale season3, will there be?
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Not sure. HBO has until sometime in June to decide. I'm pretty sure the last episode matched Deadwood in ratings, so I'm betting HBO will give it another go. Hell, The Wire is getting a fourth season, and even though I'm sure that's cheaper, it had much worse ratings. With Six Feet Under and The Sopranos ending soon, they might want to keep some solid shows around as well in case their upcoming new ones fail to connect.
It appears that HBO will be experimenting with showing its original series on nights other than Monday, so that could be a good sign. They may bring the shows back and just show them on a more sparse night, and not opposite Desperate Housewives on Sundays. The last season of Six Feet Under will be on Monday nights, so I'm guessing that they're hoping to see whether that can be a viable night.
So, personally, I'm going to be rather surprised if it doesn't return.
It appears that HBO will be experimenting with showing its original series on nights other than Monday, so that could be a good sign. They may bring the shows back and just show them on a more sparse night, and not opposite Desperate Housewives on Sundays. The last season of Six Feet Under will be on Monday nights, so I'm guessing that they're hoping to see whether that can be a viable night.
So, personally, I'm going to be rather surprised if it doesn't return.
After the season finale a few weeks ago, I started looking around to see if they signed on for another season. Nothing is concrete, but seems that rumors are that it will NOT, in fact, be renewed. Deadwood has already been signed for a 3rd season though.
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It better be renewed. I also think it would be a smart move on HBO to keep it around for at least another season or two for the reasons Dan stated above. The show has a pretty strong and loyal fanbase.
FINALFANTASYDOG
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Templar Wizard said:
I don't know, season 2 really resolves all the mysteries, we already know and understand everything, now it's just where do we go with that info.
Since Carnivale was entirely built upon mystery, now that the curtains have become visible, there's not much of a place to go, long long plodding segments don't work without mystery.
I mean you cut out the last 2 minutes of the season finale and the series is basically finished, all questions answered. It was kinda actually a let-down, with so much build-up to those mysteries to just have half of them resolve in a monologue at the start of the season and without any real drama, and then to have our climatic battle last like 2 minutes and really be anti-climatic.
Star Wars : A New Hope wraps things up nicely too. Doesn't mean there wasn't a lot more story afterwards.
Carnivale was planned from the very start as a six season series, in the form of three "books", as Dan Knauf has stated. There's plenty more story, and it should have been obvious throughout most of season two where the story would be heading (
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Carnivale was planned from the very start as a six season series, in the form of three "books", as Dan Knauf has stated. There's plenty more story, and it should have been obvious throughout most of season two where the story would be heading (
as in, Sophie and her role as the Omega
FINALFANTASYDOG
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Dan said:
I don't know, I just have major problems with what excatly is the point of many countless minutes of people staring at each other to build tension and mystery only to go , as an aside, oh btw here's all the answers.
If you are going to build up mysteries, you should at least unravel them slowly and take advantage of the fact they are mysteries. Not just make it seem like the entire point of not telling you earlier was to make you think something great was afoot and confuse you. Then give everything away in a two minute speech.
Is it just me or does Carnivale has some wacky wacky pacing? Nothing Happens in Season one, and then by season two's end basically everything story-wise has happened, yet it still somehow manages to make it feel like we've seen very little happen.
Like when Scudder was found and then Management DIED THE NEXT EPISODE, My mind was going FOR PETES SAKE, if they went at season one's pace this would have taken at least till season three to happen
Don't get me wrong, I love the show, I just wish they could have worked on pacing and giving more drama to uncovering mysteries, prehapes that's why I wanted it to slow down, so it would last longer.
Season one's pace was absolutely necessary in order to establish the world and the couple dozen important characters. Once the world, characters, relationships and situations had been established, then you start moving with the plot. That said, I hardly think nothing happened in the first season. Both Ben and Justin had large character arcs and made a lot of progress mentally and in terms of their role in the world.
The only time the show is particularly confusing is when you overthink things. Even Knauf says this.
Sure, many mysteries were somewhat resolved by the end of season two. Still, if you think they were all so nicely wrapped up, you weren't paying enough attention. This was just the beginning.
The only time the show is particularly confusing is when you overthink things. Even Knauf says this.
Sure, many mysteries were somewhat resolved by the end of season two. Still, if you think they were all so nicely wrapped up, you weren't paying enough attention. This was just the beginning.
FINALFANTASYDOG
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Dan - Any links to interviews with Kanuf? (or message boards where I can see all of his posts)
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I think HBO might have had something to do with the superspeed that Season 2 played out at, I'm sure a condition of their renewal was to make it a little more action packed, they took a lot of heat for moving so slow in Season One.
I remember shortly after the series started reading an interview in which someone asked if Ben and Brother Justin would ever meet/fight in the show. He said that wouldnt happen at least 3 or 4 years :lol
I remember shortly after the series started reading an interview in which someone asked if Ben and Brother Justin would ever meet/fight in the show. He said that wouldnt happen at least 3 or 4 years :lol
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I sure as hell hope so.
Here's a chat transcript: http://www.mooncross.net/carnivale/transcripts/chat_knauf.htmlFINALFANTASYDOG said:
And here's an interview: http://www.mooncross.net/carnivale/bally/dan.html
Part 1 and Part 2 of another lengthy interview with Knauf after season one ended.
Some interviews with other cast: http://www.mooncross.net/carnivale/bally/index.html
He also posts occasional tidbits on HBO's own Carnivale forum, but those forums suck and you can't search by poster. He frequently makes appearances during the CarnyCon's other chats, but only the main one with him was saved.
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Dan said:
Yes! The Interview brings up another major thing that bothered me, about all this building up of Dominos, only to just seemingly flip over random ones to the side before the final showdown so our dominos falling down look less pretty.
Wouldn't it have been great if management was in the final battle somehow? but more my problem is I think That Balthus could have been used a bit more, he's built up so much and then to just have him half-hapzardly cut in half in a second, and have his death serve no purpose whatsoever(maybe he's not really dead?).
Another Thing that Bothered me: The carnivale all says that have to get out of town as qucikly as possible, before people find out what they did. UMM... DID ANYBODY ELSE notice THE RAMPAGING Savior going and randomaly killing off his flock the night before? you think that might make some of people that were running away from him have second thoughts.
Another Thing that Bothered me: The carnivale all says that have to get out of town as qucikly as possible, before people find out what they did. UMM... DID ANYBODY ELSE notice THE RAMPAGING Savior going and randomaly killing off his flock the night before? you think that might make some of people that were running away from him have second thoughts.
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