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[kumanoki]

Is it just me, or is PIXAR really phoning it in on this one? C'mon. After the wildly imaginative and charming powerhouses like Toy Story, Monsters Inc., Toy Story 2, Little Nemo, and Mr. Incredible, Pixar is doing a story about....Nascar? NASCAR?!

I imagine it went a little something like this at the Disney studios that day:

Disney: Okay. We need something BIG. Toy Story was great. A movie about toys! What could be better? How about a movie about cars? People like cars....Hey! Nascar! That will appeal to the majority of Americans! Talking cars that race! It'll be great. We can call it The Littlest Nascar. No! Glory Story! No, too vague. Something simple.....hmmm....I got it! Cars!

Pixar: Yeah. Okay, okay. Jesus. Cars it is. Assholes.


Anthopomorphic redneck cars? With fvcking teeth? WTF were they thinking?! Oh, this is exactly the type of image I want. It's like Uncle Tom's Cabin all over again---with REDNECKS!

 

[olimario]

It's more than just NASCAR.
It's multple stories that intertwine and all lead to one grand conclusion (most likely)
And as it's been said before, Pixar teaser trailers dont usually come close to the final product.

 

[kumanoki]

It's more than just NASCAR.
It's multple stories that intertwine and all lead to one grand conclusion (most likely)
And as it's been said before, Pixar teaser trailers dont usually come close to the final product.

Stop being an enabler!

 

[Socreges]

I decided to check out the trailer...

http://www.apple.com/trailers/disney/cars/

Ugh. It's not much of one, but I can't help being put off and unimpressed.

 

[Wario64]

Teasers don't mean anything. The teaser for The Incredibles was nothing special but it was still an awesome movie

 

[J2 Cool]

Pixar is untouchable until I leave a movie of their's without a smile on my face.

 

[Dan]

Olimario really doesn't know what he's talking about. As always.

The plot -- Think Doc Hollywood... with cars. The hotshot racer has an accident on the way to the track, ends up in a small lowkey town and ends up learning what's important in life from beatup old 50s and 60s cars. Something close to that.

Also, Disney really doesn't tell Pixar what to do on the creative end. At all. This movie stems from John Lasseter's love of cars, not Disney's interest in targeting middle America.

 

[rareside]

I thought this was an ad to sell Chevron gasoline.

 

[kumanoki]

Also, Disney really doesn't tell Pixar what to do on the creative end. At all. This movie stems from John Lasseter's love of cars, not Disney's interest in targeting middle America.

Oh, yeah? Well, John Lasseter is pissing me off. And I'm sure it has a whole hell of a lot to do with Disney's bottom line, otherwise they wouldn't okay the movie.

This smacks of the cars from the creator of Wallace & Gromit. (Chevron)

 

[olimario]

Olimario really doesn't know what he's talking about. As always.

The plot -- Think Doc Hollywood... with cars. The hotshot racer has an accident on the way to the track, ends up in a small lowkey town and ends up learning what's important in life from beatup old 50s and 60s cars. Something close to that.

Also, Disney really doesn't tell Pixar what to do on the creative end. At all. This movie stems from John Lasseter's love of cars, not Disney's interest in targeting middle America.

I've heard it mentioned several times that this will follow several stories.

 

[MIMIC]

Just to pre-empt some bullshit: If someone refers to the idiom of "tooting their own horn," and claim "no pun intended," I will systematically administer a well-rounded beat down.

 

[marsomega]

I thought this was an ad to sell Chevron gasoline.

:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

Was thinking the same thing.

 

[Dan]

I've heard it mentioned several times that this will follow several stories.

Everything I've read from real credible sources is that the movie follows Owen Wilson's character to a small backwater town where he learns that there are more important things in life than being the hotshot racer. This isn't Magnolia. It's a linear movie with a clear-as-day protagonist.

The only statements from credible sources remotely similar to yours are the ones stating that a band of cars have adventures on Route 66, which from what I know is sorta true from a certain point of view and perhaps at a certain point of the story, but really, it's Owen Wilson's movie, straight up.

David Ogden Stiers apparently plays the town's mayor, who as some of you may know, also played the mayor in Doc Hollywood.

 

[Dante]

John Lasseter is directing this one, it's well known that he's a huge car buff.

 

[fugimax]

John Lasseter is the man. Hands down.

If you are interested in the development of Pixar as a company, btw, I suggest you read/listen to The Second Coming of Steve Jobs. A good part of the book is dedicated to Pixar and is actually very very interesting. I think you can buy it off amazon, but the audiobook is on iTunes.

 

[Mama Smurf]

The trailer did nothing to capture my interest, but I'll still go and see it. Only because of their past efforts though, it's a pretty poor trailer except for the fact that it has the word "Pixar" in it.

I hope it's not another A Bug's Life. What a pile of shit that was.

 

[Fresh Prince]

The trailer did nothing to capture my interest, but I'll still go and see it. Only because of their past efforts though, it's a pretty poor trailer except for the fact that it has the word "Pixar" in it.

I hope it's not another A Bug's Life. What a pile of shit that was.

A Bug's Life >>>>>>>>Antz according to some in this forum

 

[Dan]

If you are interested in the development of Pixar as a company, btw, I suggest you read/listen to The Second Coming of Steve Jobs. A good part of the book is dedicated to Pixar and is actually very very interesting. I think you can buy it off amazon, but the audiobook is on iTunes.

Duly noted, thanks, I'll be looking into it. Amazon does indeed have it in paperback.

 

[Mama Smurf]

A Bug's Life >>>>>>>>Antz according to some in this forum

I preferred Antz, but neither was that great.

What's after Cars anyway? Toy Story 3?

 

[FortNinety]

Hey people, wait for the movie to come out to shower the hate. And don't be surprised when it when it does come out, that it rocks.

 

[Fresh Prince]

Hey people, wait for the movie to come out to shower the hate. And don't be surprised when it when it does come out, that it rocks.

I agree with this statement, by all indications it seems different from the Pixar formula

Spoiler

until or if there's a fcuking final rescue.

 

[Dan]

What's after Cars anyway? Toy Story 3?

Ratatouille in summer of 2007. It's about a rat that lives in an upscale Parisian restaurant where an eccentric chef works. It's being directed by Jan Pinkava, who directed the Geri's Game short.

Toy Story 3 and 4 are in the works by Disney, without any involvement of Pixar.

 

[ManaByte]

Oh, yeah? Well, John Lasseter is pissing me off. And I'm sure it has a whole hell of a lot to do with Disney's bottom line, otherwise they wouldn't okay the movie.

Disney doesn't have any say in what Pixar does after Toy Story 2. Pixar basically says "This is what we're working on for the next 5 years...". And Disney says "OK". They had a set deal for a certain number of movies as well and Pixar could do whatever they wanted to under it.

 

[Mama Smurf]

Ratatouille in summer of 2007. It's about a rat that lives in an upscale Parisian restaurant where an eccentric chef works. It's being directed by Jan Pinkava, who directed the Geri's Game short.

Toy Story 3 and 4 are in the works by Disney, without any involvement of Pixar.

Ratatouille sounds good, surprised there's no 2006 pixar release though. Actually, now I think about it, Monsters Inc. may have come out earlier than I'm remembering.

Fucking Disney. Last I heard they were about to patch things up with Pixar, guess that wasn't the case. I guess they get to keep The Incredibles name too under their agreement. That sucks, that's the one I really want a sequel to.

 

[Dan]

Ratatouille sounds good, surprised there's no 2006 pixar release though. Actually, now I think about it, Monsters Inc. may have come out earlier than I'm remembering.

Fucking Disney. Last I heard they were about to patch things up with Pixar, guess that wasn't the case. I guess they get to keep The Incredibles name too under their agreement. That sucks, that's the one I really want a sequel to.

Ratatouille was originally a late 2006 film, but Steve Jobs and Pixar wants to move their films to summer release schedules, since you tend to get bigger box office grosses and home video releases fall squarely during the holidays and not during the spring or summer.

With that delay also comes a long time for Disney and Pixar to patch things up with a new deal. The problem is that right now you have two massive egos, Steve Jobs and Michael Eisner. Eisner will be gone by the end of '06 and a new CEO will have been named a while before then. If it's Iger, don't look for the situation to change, but someone else might be able to be friendlier. Both sides are unwilling to compromise jack. Disney/Eisner doesn't want to give Pixar rights to their films and they don't want to sign a worse deal in terms of raw revenue percentages, which is pretty much half of all revenue. Jobs wants to only pay Disney a 5% distribution fee and retain all rights to Pixar's films, not to mention regain rights to Toy Story, A Bug's Life, Toy Story 2, Monsters Inc, Finding Nemo, The Incredibles and Cars. As you can see, neither deal is remotely enticing to the other side, and unless some compromise comes about, Pixar just might head to another studio for distribution. If Jobs wants to stay with Disney and get the film rights, he's going to have to fork over raw cash profits from future films and home video sales, not to mention lucrative and guaranteed merchandising and theme park licensing. There's no way Disney would just hand that kind of stuff over for nothing.

If Jobs is truly interested, then he's really just buying time. He can to wait for Cars to come out and a new Disney CEO to be named. Disney gets to milk the hell out of Pixar's older properties to make Pixar's creative team ache while also hoping that their own CGI films do well so that interal execs and stockholders care less about future Pixar films. In the last Pixar thread I showed how Disney had been strategically using announcements about the upcoming Toy Story movies to counter good news for Pixar, so unfortunately I think things are only going to heat up. Disney's not playing nice at all and Jobs isn't giving any financial incentive for Disney to reup. It's like one of those Game Theory things. Disney and Pixar could either both help each other a lot, hurt each other a lot, or do a couple unlikely things inbetween.

Chicken Little's success next summer is going to play a big role though. If it doesn't do really well, critically and at the box office, then stockholders are going to want Pixar onboard even more.

Well, there's a lot of convoluted thoughts. I think I said things better in the last thread, but hey, it's 3:30 in the morning.

 

[belgurdo]

I agree with this statement, by all indications it seems different from the Pixar formula

Spoiler

until or if there's a fcuking final rescue.

Dont' worry, dude; Mr. Hotrod is probably going to have to save a clunker or two from the junkyard crusher before movie's end, I'm sure

 

[Mr. Spinnington]

Teasers don't mean anything. The teaser for The Incredibles was nothing special but it was still an awesome movie

Rock. Except teasers have the ability to determine many viewers' interest before they even know what they're up against. It will take Christ on a stick to win me over for Cars.

 

[Memles]

The Pixar name, combined with the recent Nascar Dad craze, will make the movie a huge success. Quality wise, it will all be a matter of whether or not it pulls together, which I can't really answer having seen only the Teaser.

 

[Shinobi]

I guess they get to keep The Incredibles name too under their agreement. That sucks, that's the one I really want a sequel to.

Yep...The Incredibles was just a blast. So many possibilities with the franchise...sequels, spinoffs, TV series. Guess I'll have to hope for Disney and Pixar to kiss and make up.

As for Cars, it kinda reminds me of the kick ass Thomas the Tank Engine, though the humour seems a bit sillier. I love auto racing (though I'm not a NASCAR fan), so I guess I'll keep an open mind about it.

 

[lexbubble]

I saw the peview with the Incredbles and thought it looked pretty good. I really have no reason to doubt a pixar fan after the success they have had recently.