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Casshern released on DVD in Japan, who has it?

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BuddyC

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Almost made a thread about this myself. I was gonna import, but it's a little too much for me right now.
 
MrSingh said:
is it worth watching?

I certainly think so. It's a bit Japanese wanky metaphysical and slow in parts, but has nice characters, great costumes, and is so so so so so so so pretty. Fights, when they happen, are nice as well. It's basically a B-movie in A++-clothing.
 
sp0rsk said:
its a movie with a great director and a not so good writer.

the director was also the writer ... or maybe you were being very subtly sarcastic! for his first fucking movie he kinda knocked it out of the park. here's hoping he works with an actual scribe for his next film.
 

duckroll

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JackFrost2012 said:
the director was also the writer ... or maybe you were being very subtly sarcastic! for his first fucking movie he kinda knocked it out of the park. here's hoping he works with an actual scribe for his next film.

You're wrong though. The director isn't the only writer. Casshern had a few writers on board, but the one credited for the main screenplay is Dai Sato. Famous for writing a shitload of anime scripts, ranging from Cowboy Bebop, Wolf's Rain to Ghost in the Shell Stand Alone complex.
 

sprsk

force push the doodoo rock
JackFrost2012 said:
the director was also the writer ... or maybe you were being very subtly sarcastic!.


yes. The guys a photographer so i had no doubts that thi smovie would be fucking beautiful and the cinematography was excellent, the acting was too. my only problem is that sometimes it felt like stuff was taken out of the movie for time constraints and left a couple holes. Beautiful beautiful movie though. Perhaps thats just the studios fault, but i dunno so ill blame it on the director :p

the fight scene between tetsuya and the robots was easily the best action sequence ive seen in a movie, probably ever.
 

duckroll

Member
sp0rsk said:
my only problem is that sometimes it felt like stuff was taken out of the movie for time constraints and left a couple holes.

The movie was already 140mins long. That's pretty fucking long for an anime/manga inspired movie. There are like 23mins of deleted scenes on the third bonus disc, though I really didn't think the movie needed to be any longer.
 
granted i have only seen half of the movie, a horrible subed CAM at that. and i really enjoyed it. im expecting some typical japanese 'morality' speechs from the 2 principals in the final reel to take it down a notch, but it looks and sounds fantastic.
 

Dujour

Banned
I don't have it since I don't import in that way, but I remember watching the trailer months ago so I knew to downloa... er, nevermind. Yar, onward we sail!
 

BuddyC

Member
SaitoH said:
I guess there is no chance of this movie coming here.

*dons eyepatch*
Supposedly, supposedly, it's been picked up by a US Distributor. With everything else that's made its way over, I'd almost be suprised if Casshern didn't.
 

duckroll

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BuddyChrist83 said:
Supposedly, supposedly, it's been picked up by a US Distributor. With everything else that's made its way over, I'd almost be suprised if Casshern didn't.

I believe the US remake rights have been picked up, so expect to see the Japanese version released on budget with terrible cover art in about 5 years time just before/after the equally terrible US remake is released in cinemas. :)
 

sprsk

force push the doodoo rock
Man, this movie would do well with american audiences i htink. Just the robot battle alone would sell this movie.

People talk about hk cinema\the matrix being "anime on film" Well they all just got owned hardcore by casshern. When they say "real life anime" in casshern, they arent fucking around. They even got actors that had voices that sounded like anime characters.
 
Finally got the set this afternoon. I haven't seen any pictures of it so I thought I'd take a couple and throw them up here, as it's really nicely done.

The set comes in a nice and sturdy silver/metallic box (that I managed to get out of focus..)
P1010076small.jpg


The three discs come in separate cardboard cases that fit inside.
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Insides of the cases and back of the box
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I only had a few minutes to flip through and view a couple of my favorite parts from the movie, but the picture looks great. I also tried to take a picture of the menu, but it didn't turn out right.
P1010081small.jpg
 

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heavy liquid said:
Finally got the set this afternoon. I haven't seen any pictures of it so I thought I'd take a couple and throw them up here, as it's really nicely done.

The set comes in a nice and sturdy silver/metallic box (that I managed to get out of focus..)
P1010076small.jpg


The three discs come in separate cardboard cases that fit inside.
P1010077small.jpg



Insides of the cases and back of the box
P1010078small.jpg


I only had a few minutes to flip through and view a couple of my favorite parts from the movie, but the picture looks great. I also tried to take a picture of the menu, but it didn't turn out right.
P1010081small.jpg
awesome. I have the DVD on order, cant wait to finally see it subbed :p

/me hugs all region player
 
according to IGN: http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/561/561109p1.html?ui=ign_newonent_1

October 27, 2004 - According to today's Hollywood Reporter, DreamWorks Pictures has snagged the domestic distribution rights to the futuristic Japanese feature Casshern, which has been getting a lot of buzz since the film's insanely cool trailer hit online earlier this year.


The film is based an anime from the 1970s called Casshan: Robot Hunter. The story tells what happens when a scientist invents a robot for pollution control, but the robot goes nuts and sets out to enslave mankind using a robot army. The scientist's son merges his body with that of a robot and becomes a super-powered android named Casshan. If it sounds crazy, that's because it is. He then takes on the robot armies with the help of his childhood friend, Luna.

The film was directed by music video helmer Kazuaki Kiriya and was released in April in Japan.

Keep it here for more on Casshern.

can't wait for the butchered, edited version that we get. maybe we'll get lucky and they won't pull a Disney.
 
bune duggy said:
according to IGN: http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/561/561109p1.html?ui=ign_newonent_1

can't wait for the butchered, edited version that we get. maybe we'll get lucky and they won't pull a Disney.

Dreamworks is releasing this through their GoFish line, which has previsouly released untouched version of Millenium Actress and Innocence: Ghost in the Shell 2. Expect a completely unedited, sub-only release based on past releases.
 
RiZ III said:
This movie was retarded. The only redeeming quality was Luna being really hot.

Luna is totally not hot. The Neo Sapiens girl, on the other hand, is the hottest Japanese girl I've ever seen, ever.
 

Bebpo

Banned
JackFrost2012 said:
Luna is totally not hot. The Neo Sapiens girl, on the other hand, is the hottest Japanese girl I've ever seen, ever.

Because she looks like storm and you've always had a thing for mutants?
 

duckroll

Member
JackFrost2012 said:
Luna is totally not hot. The Neo Sapiens girl, on the other hand, is the hottest Japanese girl I've ever seen, ever.

Personally I found the guys in Casshern much better looking than the girls. They were ok, but some of the guys were really cool.

In this order:

5. Black King
4. Azuma
3. Squall
2. Tetsuya
1. Naito

Oh and the physical casshern lightning is sexy as hell too. :D
 

RiZ III

Member
Ok, so I guess she wasn't 'hot', but she sure was purty. Eye candy. Oooo baby. That other girl u speak of was a beast.
 

Boogie9IGN

Member
I just finished watching it 2 minutes ago, holy crap I loved that ending, it was beautiful

Anyone know where I could find a transcript of Tetsuya's end speech?
 

SKluck

Banned
Can someone generalize the story for me? I saw it but I'm not sure I understand completely.

I liked it a lot though, cool action, honestly, the robots were kinda gay. I dug everything that Tetsuya was in though. It's unfortunate they didn't have more of Tetsuya going nuts on robots, he had like 3 minutes and thats it for his badassness. The human fights were good but sometimes the cuts were waaaaaay too fast.

To my understand the story goes like...

Daddy tries to make cure for wife, tries to make or harvest these neocells. Fails, so just captures people from Sector 7 (or whatever) and cuts them up and uses their body parts / neocells to help injured soldiers / etc. The lightning comes and makes all the body parts rejoin. They go to mysteriously already existing castle with thousands of robots and advanced technology and begin war on 'humans'. Tetsuya while in the war shot the lead mutant and his wife. But wasn't that part in the movie before and it was an old lady?

Anything I didn't include is because I understand it.
 

duckroll

Member
It's like this:

Dr Azuma's wife is dying of an illness and he desperately tries to find a way to genetically replace faulty organs within the human body. He has an idea and needs funding for research. The military government grants him this funding because the dictator wants to live forever as well this research is just up his alley.

The neocells are cultivated from a certain ethnic group which is supposedly the original root race of all humanity, but this is also an ethnic group that they are oppressing (so it can be compared to Hitler's scientists discovering that the genetic code of the Jews hold the key to immortality) so this information is covered up.

The war is simply an excuse to gather bodies to do further research on neocells, but on the surface the soldiers see it as "ethnic cleansing". During the war Tetsuya killed tons of innocent civilians, including the wife and child of the man who would become Black King.

The actual neocell research itself was never successful, but the lightning of Casshern made the neocells work presumably because Casshern is the guardian deity of this ancient ethnic race before they forgot about him in the midst of war. So it can be seen that the lightning is a god jumpstarting the end of those who oppressed his people for too long.

As for the castle, it's just a leftover part of older history with an army of robots built but never used in some long forgotten war for some long forgotten empire. I guess it's a convenient plot device but it also shows that if you ever create something with a negative intention of action, even if you don't carry it out someone else will one day find it and use it.

So yeah that's what I got from the movie. :)
 

teepo

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anyone know how succesful this movie was in japan. it cost 47million to make and i have a feeling it didn't even make more then a 4th of that.
 

Pfucata

Member
Alright, I too have joined the club of confused Casshern viewers. It's a 2:20 movie, and even though I have lots of questions, I still enjoyed the movie. Definitely stylish, great DTS-ES mix. I still have some questions though

Did Prof. Azuma begin his work with noble intentions, i.e. trying to develop neo-cells, and it was only after 1 year of failure when Tetsuya says he'll go to war that Azuma becomes part of the killing? Or was the entire project always evil to begin with?

That metal lightning bolt came from the statue from the very intro right? So lightning somehow threw that lightning bolt to Azuma's home which gave the red goo life restoring power

They come across an abandoned factory from the 50 year war? Is the symbol on the building supposed to be the old Eurasian logo? Or is this supposed to be some factory WAY in the past?

Why did Tetsuya start heading to the mountains w/Luna? Were they trying to escape the city or go look for his mom?

Why did the whole neosapien army travel all the way to Azuma's house (where Luna, Azuma, and the hunchback'd neo-sapien were) How did Tetsuya fall out of the sky?

At the end, how did Luna come back to life? Or should we treat all those electric symbol/shock things as the real Casshern?
 

Draff

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teepo said:
anyone know how succesful this movie was in japan. it cost 47million to make and i have a feeling it didn't even make more then a 4th of that.

I'm pretty sure I read it cost slightly less than $6 million to make.
 

Pfucata

Member
Exactly. Kiriya himself said "[It took] two months for the shoot and 6 months for the post-production. It was really intense, because we only had 6 million dollars to finish 160 scenes and 3000 cuts."

Variety reported a $5.5 million budget (prolly the budget was ~600 million yen)
http://www.variety.com/graphics/print_pdfs/0517CD.pdf

Part of the reason they were able to keep the costs so low is that they used a young team of CG artists with no previous movie experience, they did all the 3D work on PCs built from components from Akihabara, and because they filmed everything using Hi-Def 24P instead of film.

For what it's worth, the action scenes in Casshern were directed by the guy who did Gunbuster and Evangelion.
 

borghe

Loves the Greater Toronto Area
LOL!! just watched this last night...

ummmmmmm....... did not like it. it was like a feature length cross between story and style of FF and the technology of sky captain. the sky captain part I can live with, but the particularly non-Square translation made it tolerable at best, and quite ridiculous usually.

so if someone can sum up the story for me:

dude was killed in war, his dad made the neo-cells or whatever, the neo-cells became alive and fled to that castle with all of the robots (the blind mother helped), the dad ressurected his son who then went on to fight the bad neo-cells who created the robots to take over the world.

am I basically right.. I really tried paying attention but seriously just could not get into it and started nodding off about 1/2 way through.
 

karasu

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heavy liquid said:
Finally got the set this afternoon. I haven't seen any pictures of it so I thought I'd take a couple and throw them up here, as it's really nicely done.

The set comes in a nice and sturdy silver/metallic box (that I managed to get out of focus..)
P1010076small.jpg


The three discs come in separate cardboard cases that fit inside.
P1010077small.jpg



Insides of the cases and back of the box
P1010078small.jpg


I only had a few minutes to flip through and view a couple of my favorite parts from the movie, but the picture looks great. I also tried to take a picture of the menu, but it didn't turn out right.
P1010081small.jpg

godly!
 

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Pfucata said:
For what it's worth, the action scenes in Casshern were directed by the guy who did Gunbuster and Evangelion.
wait what?


And this movie is great. Superb packaging as well
 

Pfucata

Member
borghe said:
so if someone can sum up the story for me...

That's completely wrong. That's like saying the Matrix is a story about a computer programmer named Neo who is obsessed about another hacker, Morpheus. Neo goes starts hearing things and imagining things and gets caught by the feds and Neo is so schizophrenic by this point that he even thinks they're messing with his mouth.

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Deadstar:
Yeah, Shinji Higuichi was the "action scenes supervisor" and "storyboard artist: action scene" for Casshern. Apparently he did some storyboarding for Macross Plus:Movie too.

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0383688/

Casshern is unquestionable well shot/composed. The makeup/art direction indeed feels like the work of a fashion photographer. The grain at different points is a great approach.

The story is different -- I think it can be polarizing or depend on how different it is. There isn't non-stop action so people say it's not an action movie, but I feel that the story is always being driven by a fairly cohesive action-movie plot. It's like the Peter Parker scenes inside of SpiderMan2, only it's not "thrown in out of place." At the same time, there's supposed to be an underlying message to the movie so it's a bit of a character drama too...

I really think it's closer to classic Macross Plus where there's great action, but also great character development. (Though, for the record, Macross Plus is still the better film).
 

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Oh shit, thought meant you meant Hideaki Anno, thus my "wtf"


Another plus for the movie imo is the music, which was fantastic, ironically enough composed by another Evangelion Alum, Shiroh Sagisu who was already responsible for the fantastic music in the Eva TV/Movie

Im glad I bought the DVD now that I know Dreamworks will release it in the US, just looking at the cover art for GITS2 makes me ill :X
 

Pfucata

Member
It's not clear if the US team will include the DTS track either. It's a lot of money for the JPN release DVD though, so who knows, maybe I'll sell my copy later.

What still bothers me is
why Professor Azuma killed Luna at the end? Was that supposed to show that he was crazy all along?
 
Pfucata said:
What still bothers me is
why Professor Azuma killed Luna at the end? Was that supposed to show that he was crazy all along?

Your avatar looks like he's drinking a stem glass of mimosa. In any case, my reading was that
it was to force Tetsuya into a moral quandry the same as his own: having lost the person he loved most in the world, would he still be able to reject using the neo-cells?
 

fart

Savant
that was so beautiful to look at but so empty and soulless to think about that i both love it and hate it.

someone help me out. should i love it or hate it?

:/

it really did look fucking amazing
 
DeadStar said:
Oh shit, thought meant you meant Hideaki Anno, thus my "wtf"


Another plus for the movie imo is the music, which was fantastic, ironically enough composed by another Evangelion Alum, Shiroh Sagisu who was already responsible for the fantastic music in the Eva TV/Movie

Im glad I bought the DVD now that I know Dreamworks will release it in the US, just looking at the cover art for GITS2 makes me ill :X

Haha, I had the same thought. Even though I bought Casshern after I heard Dreamworks had got the rights to a US release, I can't help but think how they'll mess up the packaging. I also doubt there will be any extras, unless they plan to sub all of them.
 
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