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By definition they are comedians. The fact they intermix their comedy with their political views does not change that.

A lot of posters in this thread are happy because a famous person with a mighty high pulpit that bats for the other team lost that pulpit. It's not like they're trying to hide it or anything, it's a gloating thread.

Oh yea I'm definitely gloating. Fuck this guy, he sucks. That said this is a trick that a lot of these guys pulled. Stewart did it in the early 2000s. They are political activists when people like what they want to hear, and just stupid funnyman clowns when people call them out on it. And I say this as someone who really likes Stewart. And even Stewart said a bunch of stuff that made Colbert shit his pants a few years ago:



Now why would this bother a comedian, Stewart was saying some hilarious and right-on-target shit, well it's because Colbert was doing the work of the Democrat party and was ordered to push the vaccine.

 

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[Bitmap Frogs]

Oh yea I'm definitely gloating. Fuck this guy, he sucks. That said this is a trick that a lot of these guys pulled. Stewart did it in the early 2000s. They are political activists when people like what they want to hear, and just stupid funnyman clowns when people call them out on it. And I say this as someone who really likes Stewart. And even Stewart said a bunch of stuff that made Colbert shit his pants a few years ago:



Now why would this bother a comedian, Stewart was saying some hilarious and right-on-target shit, well it's because Colbert was doing the work of the Democrat party and was ordered to push the vaccine.

Colbert hasn't been funny since he started hosting The Late Show. In "The Colbert Report" he parodied right wing pundits the entire show, but there the show was actually funny and even Republicans could enjoy it because it made fun of the fringe elements at the right, not 50% of the country. His Late Show monologues were so much worse, it felt like political propaganda all of the time. Never did you feel he was taking aims at both sides of the aisle. Such a let down after the terrific "Colbert Report".

That political one-sidedness made Colbert absolutely insufferable. Bill Maher is a lifelong Democrat, his TDS is off the chart, but he's so much better at trying to find a middle ground where both sides can enjoy or get mad at his takes (although often not always at the same time).

Thank you for validating my opinion that this is just about politics and that you've reached a point that you cannot process comedy that's not ideologically compatible with you.

 

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Thank you for validating my opinion that this is just about politics and that you've reached a point that you cannot process comedy that's not ideologically compatible with you.

It's not comedy. That's the point. Watch the clip I posted. Colbert is clearly uncomfortable with Stewart working on comedy because it goes against Democrat dogma.

A guy like Jay Leno, say what you will about him, could crack a joke about Clinton just as easily as he could about Bush. Colbert can't do that because he was running a Democrat propaganda operation.

 

[ADiTAR]

Bill Maher has a successful one a week late night, and he does have a political panel, and he still make fun of both sides.

 

[Rran]

By definition they are comedians. The fact they intermix their comedy with their political views does not change that.

A lot of posters in this thread are happy because a famous person with a mighty high pulpit that bats for the other team lost that pulpit. It's not like they're trying to hide it or anything, it's a gloating thread.

The problem I have with these shows is that many people use them as their news outlets but don't hold them accountable when they make a mistake, unlike the actual news. "They're comedians/they're just making jokes" is used to shield them from criticism. It dumbs down the political discourse into taking cheap shots at whoever's on the other side and I think it sucks regardless of which partisan viewpoint the comedian is taking.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Bill Maher has a successful one a week late night, and he does have a political panel, and he still make fun of both sides.

Maher has great moments, although he has a real small audience... I guess he has blackmail material on the HBO higher ups, otherwise I can't imagine how he's still got a show.

 

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It's not comedy. That's the point. Watch the clip I posted. Colbert is clearly uncomfortable with Stewart working on comedy because it goes against Democrat dogma.

A guy like Jay Leno, say what you will about him, could crack a joke about Clinton just as easily as he could about Bush. Colbert can't do that because he was running a Democrat propaganda operation.

But that's irrelevant, they're still comedians and most of their output is comedy, that they decide to bat for a team or another is their choosing.

The problem I have with these shows is that many people use them as their news outlets but don't hold them accountable when they make a mistake, unlike the actual news. "They're comedians/they're just making jokes" is used to shield them from criticism. It dumbs down the political discourse into taking cheap shots at whoever's on the other side and I think it sucks regardless of which partisan viewpoint the comedian is taking.

Yeah, but actual news is a thing that barely exists anymore since they've been superseded by entertainment-news and opinion broadcasting. By most accounts BBC News is the most ideologically neutral news site out there at this time, so there you go.

 

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Maher has great moments, although he has a real small audience... I guess he has blackmail material on the HBO higher ups, otherwise I can't imagine how he's still got a show.

Since you're so focused on the political aspect, maybe the only reason Maher currently has a show was political posturing. Saturate late night with left leaning programming in an attempt to make the audience feel that is how everyone feels. Maher is obviously left leaning, along with Kimmel and Colbert. Strangely all 3 of them were able to get new contracts late in the Biden presidency that all expire in 2026. None of them had exceptional ratings when the contracts were signed yet they were paid way more than should have based on income from their shows. Looks like paid propaganda against Trump not only didn't work, it lost them a ton of money.

Colbert will be just the first to announce the end of their late night shows. It sounds like when Kimmel signed his contract, he knew it would be his last. The ratings don't justify the cost.

 

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Personally if I was one of the 20 writers who wrote the absolute trash for that show I would be embarrassed and ashamed to try and put that on my resume for my next gig

 

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It's kind of funny to realize that despite the politicization of this decision by everyone with an agenda on every imaginable side, the cold hard reality is that it was a money-losing boondoggle and CBS really did make a financial decision here

 

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It's nice to see the breakdown for this shitshow.

It costs 100 MILLION dollars a year to have a guy sit behind a desk and read lines from a teleprompter. Why? Because they have 20 writers [what the fuck] and 200 [TWO HUNDRED] people on staff.

Absolutely insane.

 

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I'm from Europe and I never found this guy funny or the others. There is nothing comic about him. You need to have that comic body mechanism, manierism in your DNA that glow around, to make people burst into laughter. These kind of shows need hosts/writers like Leslie Nielsen, Mel Brooks, Jim Carrey, Louis de Funès, etc.

 

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100 million is definitely just a ton of people just lining their pockets and not actually put in the show.

 

[WoJ]

Your definition of actual comedy is comedy that puts forward a conservative view. Babylon Bee much eh?

No it's not. But nice try. I prefer comedy that is inherently apolitical and/or equally rags on both sides. Or quite frankly, leaves politics out of it. Jay Leno was mentioned as someone I've enjoyed quite a bit in the past because of his willingness to take jabs at everyone. Bill Maher, also mentioned, does the same these days and I enjoy Bill lot. I've also enjoyed plenty of comedy at the expense of conservatives. But there's a difference between what guys like Colbert, Kimmel, and Oliver peddle versus actual comedians and/or comedy using someone in the political arena as a punchline.

Regardless of politics, my disdain for a guy like Oliver is that he is a smarmy twat who's entire schtick is largely based on lies to try and boost his ratings and convince his audience that he's some arbiter of truth that dumb people (according to him) just haven't been able to grasp. I haven't seen his show a lot, but when I have and he's covered topics I am quite knowledgeable on, it's clear to anyone who knows anything about the topics he's discussing that his arguments and "humor" ignore facts, take clips out of context and/or use outdated material to try and make a point at someone else's expense all while trying to position what's arguing as "factual" and anyone disagreeing with him is a complete moron. Despite the fact, the actual arguments he is presenting to claim moral and intellectual superiority are largely inaccurate, factually incorrect, and dishonest. Meanwhile, the audience laps it up and treats it as gospel. All of these clowns like Oliver and Colbert are doing the same thing.

That's not comedy. Sorry it's not. It's propaganda. I know you'll disagree and claim I only want "conservative" comedy, whatever that means. You'd be wrong, but you're entitled to your wrong opinion.