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CDC: Cancers Associated with Overweight and Obesity Make up 40% of Cancers Diagnosed
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^ Doubtful since someone's obesity doesn't affect your health. Just the cost of healthcare overall though at this point I'm convinced that everyone could be skinny tomorrow and insurance companies would then charge more to people for low BMI.
There are a lot of risk factors, but yeah with the rise in obesity there would be a rise in corresponding obesity related cancer. Seems pretty common sense.
There are a lot of risk factors, but yeah with the rise in obesity there would be a rise in corresponding obesity related cancer. Seems pretty common sense.
Like the hat?
Banned
Luckily I don't want to live!
But seriously it's no shock. Everything I've read it's that a reduced caloric intake is a big key to extended life span.
I'm saying this as an obese man btw.
But seriously it's no shock. Everything I've read it's that a reduced caloric intake is a big key to extended life span.
I'm saying this as an obese man btw.
Brock Reiher
Banned
Obesity is still one of the very few things that TV shows are regularly allowed to mock (baldness and short men are up there too), and its about as unhealthy as smoking. People won't like ban being obese since there's no such thing as second hand obesity. Hopefully more anti obesity laws like the soda tax pop up though.
deadscreensky
Member
Makes sense, since elevated insulin levels fuel a majority of human cancers.
The real issue is all the terrible 'science' out there involving weight loss. Nothing can change until that's fixed, and old myths die very slowly.
The real issue is all the terrible 'science' out there involving weight loss. Nothing can change until that's fixed, and old myths die very slowly.
No because you're not breathing fat into my lungs by proximity.
Skellig Gra
Member
Wow that is a huge number
whatsinaname
Member
But..., I thought I could be Healthy At Every Size!
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
Thanks, food pyramid.
Second-hand Smoking issues comes from someone living with a smoker, not from walking past someone smoking on the sidewalk. Same thing with obesity, if you live with an obese person, you are more likely to be obese yourself.
Pai Pai Master
Banned
I really need to get my shit together and lose the weight.
Brock Reiher
Banned
Nah, not exclusively. You can get sicker from your nurse smoking in the hospital, you can't get sicker from your nurse being obese.
Earthbound64
Banned
Is smoking related to overweight or obesity?
Because, well...
Because, well...
entremet
Member
I blame fast food more.
Rentahamster
Rodent Whores
For reaping the benefits of our government sponsored disinformation?
Urban sprawl and our car-centric urban planning fucked us up too.
...we fucked up a lot of things, really.
damn...
I believe it.
It's weird, because I beleive it works the other way too. Not sure if there are studies on that though.
Count Dookkake
Member
Maybe this will encourage people to quit that gross habit.
I regularly hear people say something to the effect of, "Just because a person is skinny, it doesn't mean they are healthy!"
While technically true, an overweight person is going to be healthier 99.9% of the time at a "normal" BMI. Being overweight is literally one of the top unhealthy things you can do for your body.
While technically true, an overweight person is going to be healthier 99.9% of the time at a "normal" BMI. Being overweight is literally one of the top unhealthy things you can do for your body.
itwasTuesday
He wasn't alone.
Just look at the bright side, you can lose all your muscle and fat during chemo.
I hope this doesn't turn into some preexisting condition bs.
I hope this doesn't turn into some preexisting condition bs.
I thought most restaurants already have calorie counts available and posted. Maybe it's different in other states.
Yeah. Our car centric cities and life's in car centric general certainly didn't help
Spehornoob
Member
Good thing this study came out not long after I decided to start dropping weight! About three and a half weeks in and I've dropped thirteen lbs so far, and only just getting started. Though I know it'll slow down, I already feel better than I have in a long time.
No worries you are both correct!
Randomizer123454444
Member
Obesity being bad for health is apparent, but making cancer so much more probable is puzzling.
PS
Reminder that stats need to be taken with a grain of salt:
I wonder if it has something to do with diet of obese people. Foods obese are prone to eating are bad for your health in more ways than one.
NorthAndSouth
Member
Diet is definitely one aspect. Another thing is that it is now currently accepted within scientific literature that fat tissue acts as a separate endocrine tissue. It produces inflammatory cytokines that have been linked to the development of autoimmune/ malignancies and also interferes with normal homeostasis of appetite control.
Excess weight isn't just there to "look bad". It's completely messing up with your system.
Vigilant Walrus
Member
One of the problems we have in particularly countries with free health care is that you have very morbid obese people who say "Leave me alone. I'm not hurting anybody".
But in a sense you are. Because your detteriating health is taking resources away from people who have bad diseases not caused by lifestyle diseases.
It has been suggested in some countries that free health care should not include people who have become sick due to self-harm, which you can say physical addiction disorders are. The problem is that it's basically impossible, even if you could screen out people who've caused their own bad health.
Another problem is that there is always a underlying reason for why people start substance abusing. The stigma with food is in particular that there are also people who just get fat due to laziness and bad periods, but they are not addicted or beyond health. And some of those people like to harass obese people with legit addiction problems with boostrap arguments.
When someone abuses food, it doesn't matter what arguments you throw at them. When you're addicted you're not rational. The big quagmire with food is that unlike smoking, drugs or alcohol, you cannot live without food. So you cannot do a AA 12-step-program to stop eating food ever again.
This causes this ying-yang effect that many obese people have becoming fat, losing weight, becoming fat, losing weight all of their lives. Their metabolism rates tank, and they quickly gain weight.
It causes major havoc on the system and takes a significant amount of years of your lifespan, as we know, because food consumption (kj) is related to lifespan. We know that eating less seems to have a correlation with living longer.
It might have something to do with that we totally underestimate the intense pressure and work our bodies have to go through to absorb food. We totally underestimate it, because we're not thinking about it. But we're exerting our body extremely when we eat a lot.
And due to our food sources, some of the things we eat are difficult to digest.
Being obese is miserable. It truly feels like you're at the bottom of the pit. The constant sweating, heavy breathing, constant irration. You're warm all the damn time. Your head feels cloudy. You just feel sick 24/7. And like with depression it tends to come with hopelessness, habits that die hard, and a lingering sense that you cannot change. No rationality, just looking for the six sugar high. You want to overeat just to sleep. You're looking for that alternate state of being, as you try to take your mind of things in RL that weighs heavy on you mentally. The massive spikes dopaine through the sugars, salts, fats and sweets give you rush of happiness that temporarily reduces the depression.
It's a cocktail of procrastination, anexiety, habits, addiction, irrationality, self loathing, conscious self-awareness, low self esteem. It's just such a bad pit to fall into. And you never really get out of it. Once you've been in once, it will always lay in the back of your mind. Like people who used to have drug and alcohol addictions. It's a scary monster you always have to be weary of.
Then you got the psychotic fitness industry full of all these fucking fake morons looking to make a quick buck with their shitty mars bar with added shit protein. You got all these bro scientists with their religion diets, and you got the media that constantly sells you this hypocrtical garbage mix of loving yourself, while at the same time selling you unrealistic body standards that make you hate yourself and make you think that the correct way to live your life is to look like this or train like that. It's such a pile of horseshit that is difficult to navigate.
But in a sense you are. Because your detteriating health is taking resources away from people who have bad diseases not caused by lifestyle diseases.
It has been suggested in some countries that free health care should not include people who have become sick due to self-harm, which you can say physical addiction disorders are. The problem is that it's basically impossible, even if you could screen out people who've caused their own bad health.
Another problem is that there is always a underlying reason for why people start substance abusing. The stigma with food is in particular that there are also people who just get fat due to laziness and bad periods, but they are not addicted or beyond health. And some of those people like to harass obese people with legit addiction problems with boostrap arguments.
When someone abuses food, it doesn't matter what arguments you throw at them. When you're addicted you're not rational. The big quagmire with food is that unlike smoking, drugs or alcohol, you cannot live without food. So you cannot do a AA 12-step-program to stop eating food ever again.
This causes this ying-yang effect that many obese people have becoming fat, losing weight, becoming fat, losing weight all of their lives. Their metabolism rates tank, and they quickly gain weight.
It causes major havoc on the system and takes a significant amount of years of your lifespan, as we know, because food consumption (kj) is related to lifespan. We know that eating less seems to have a correlation with living longer.
It might have something to do with that we totally underestimate the intense pressure and work our bodies have to go through to absorb food. We totally underestimate it, because we're not thinking about it. But we're exerting our body extremely when we eat a lot.
And due to our food sources, some of the things we eat are difficult to digest.
Being obese is miserable. It truly feels like you're at the bottom of the pit. The constant sweating, heavy breathing, constant irration. You're warm all the damn time. Your head feels cloudy. You just feel sick 24/7. And like with depression it tends to come with hopelessness, habits that die hard, and a lingering sense that you cannot change. No rationality, just looking for the six sugar high. You want to overeat just to sleep. You're looking for that alternate state of being, as you try to take your mind of things in RL that weighs heavy on you mentally. The massive spikes dopaine through the sugars, salts, fats and sweets give you rush of happiness that temporarily reduces the depression.
It's a cocktail of procrastination, anexiety, habits, addiction, irrationality, self loathing, conscious self-awareness, low self esteem. It's just such a bad pit to fall into. And you never really get out of it. Once you've been in once, it will always lay in the back of your mind. Like people who used to have drug and alcohol addictions. It's a scary monster you always have to be weary of.
Then you got the psychotic fitness industry full of all these fucking fake morons looking to make a quick buck with their shitty mars bar with added shit protein. You got all these bro scientists with their religion diets, and you got the media that constantly sells you this hypocrtical garbage mix of loving yourself, while at the same time selling you unrealistic body standards that make you hate yourself and make you think that the correct way to live your life is to look like this or train like that. It's such a pile of horseshit that is difficult to navigate.
WoolyNinja
Member
It ignores colorectal cancer though? And specifically says it actually decreased 23 percent? It then tries to write that off by saying the decrease is probably due to screening? But screening doesnt prevent cancer, it just detects it so I dont understand why colorectal cancer is ignored?
It's right there in the article "Screening for colorectal cancer prevents new cases by finding abnormal growths in the colon and rectum before they turn into cancer."
dragonelite
Member
There is a group of cancer researchers that think cancer has a metabolic origin. Or at least not all cancers have a genetic origin.
Because, for colon cancer it's sometimes possible to find it in the pre-cancerous polyp stage.
They can then easily remove that pre-cancerous polyp, and the data shows doing that polyp removal can prevent full colon cancer from forming.
Some types of skin cancers can also be detected and removed in the pre-cancerous stage. If only every cancer had a currently detectable and easily removable pre-cancerous stage.
Principate
Saint Titanfall
Correlation does not equal causation
Obesity being bad for health is apparent, but making cancer so much more probable is puzzling.
PS
Reminder that stats need to be taken with a grain of salt:
I think the CDC knows how to handle statistics