cryptoadam
Banned
Just rewatched a bit of Endgame last night and I dont remember the Hulk looking this bad. Man what happened there. Go back and watch it Hulk looks like poop.
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CGI Hulk in Endgam
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Punished Miku
Banned
I remembered it being that bad. They completely ruined the entire character. It was humorous to have Hulk be funny in Ragnarok for one film, but they absolutely butchered him in both Infinity War and Endgame.
Anyone on here actually enjoyed seeing his face turn green and be a waste of space in the NY fight against Thanos' assassins? Anyone liked seeing him fall over on his face in the Iron Man suit since he's too uncoordinated to even run, like a toddler?
Anyone on here actually enjoyed seeing his face turn green and be a waste of space in the NY fight against Thanos' assassins? Anyone liked seeing him fall over on his face in the Iron Man suit since he's too uncoordinated to even run, like a toddler?
Virt McPolygon
Banned
He looked better in that Coke commercial
Punished Miku
Banned
Not the CGI, the poor art design aging poorly. The older Hulk looks better.
ManofOne
Plus Member
You guys remember the Brazilian dude who painted himself green when avengers came out
WHERE IS THAT GIF
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/man-paint-himself-green-to-look-like-hulk.476112/
WHERE IS THAT GIF
https://www.neogaf.com/threads/man-paint-himself-green-to-look-like-hulk.476112/
MetalAlien
Banned
Your first mistake was re watching endgame.
cryptoadam
Banned
Other stuff looks funky, but Hulk stands out even more. Maybe its because his design was changed a lot I don't know. Was just something I noticed when FF threw a re watch yesterday. Especially the scene with the Ancient one and the end scene where he is running with all the avengers.
I dont know maybe its because they slimmed him down a bit and tried to make him more "human". Its just one of the worst looking Hulks and in every scene he comes off a super CGI. Thanos still looks pretty good in comparison.
But ya overall the whole movie is just super CGI. That end scene just made me think that probably none of these people were actually on set anywhere with each other and half of them were actually just CGI not even actors in CGI suits or anything. Just straight up video game. At some point I wasnt sure if I was watching avengers or playing my copy of Squars avengers LOL. Especially when Cap was fighting Thanos with Thors hammer I was like hmm I did that exact lightning move in the game.
Tesseract
Banned
there's levels and layers but i find this to be a steadfast rule
Punished Miku
Banned
Good Marvel Movies:
- Winter Soldier
- Civil War
- Guardians 1
- Thor: Ragnarok
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teezzy
Banned
MCU is at its best when they're not trying to be superhero movies. Winter Soldier works well as a spy thriller and Guardians just feels like some weird Star Wars/Trek knock off thing.
I've heard wonderful things about Ragnarok, but I've yet to watch it. The superhero genre is so goddamn played out at this point, I have no idea how people are still managing to get excited.
Punished Miku
Banned
Yeah, for sure. I'll check out the Disney + shows, and Dr. Strange 2. I have a major soft spot for Moon Knight, and read that a lot as a kid.
cryptoadam
Banned
Infinity war was pretty good too. I think the best of the Avengers films. First one was good but go back and watch it loses a lot of its charm. Second one was meh. Endgame was pretty much useless except for the last battle scene.
IMO Endgame was just made to make $$$ and so the Russo's could have their "shocking" ending of killing everyone. In the end Endgame's whole plot was nothing since Hulk says it they return back in time and bring the stones back (off screen). So all that time travel stuff was convulted nonsense to undo the snap and lead into a final battle.
Infinity War and Endgame could have been merged into one movie getting rid of all that time travel, fat thor, professor hulk, everyone moping around about the snap. If Thor had killed Thanos it would have been pretty satisfying in the end and a good ending to the entire saga. You still could have found a way to kill of Tony and maybe time travel Cap back to the 40's if needed without making an entire 2 and a half hour movie of mcguffin after mcguffin just to get to killing Thanos.
IMO Endgame was just made to make $$$ and so the Russo's could have their "shocking" ending of killing everyone. In the end Endgame's whole plot was nothing since Hulk says it they return back in time and bring the stones back (off screen). So all that time travel stuff was convulted nonsense to undo the snap and lead into a final battle.
Infinity War and Endgame could have been merged into one movie getting rid of all that time travel, fat thor, professor hulk, everyone moping around about the snap. If Thor had killed Thanos it would have been pretty satisfying in the end and a good ending to the entire saga. You still could have found a way to kill of Tony and maybe time travel Cap back to the 40's if needed without making an entire 2 and a half hour movie of mcguffin after mcguffin just to get to killing Thanos.
teezzy
Banned
Yeah, Moon Knight is right up there with Spidey and Daredevil for me. I actually had his first two appearances in Werewolf by Night and sold 'em a few years ago to my LCS.
I feel like an idiot. They've skyrocketed in price since the show was announced. Oh well. Win some; lose some.
sol_bad
Member
I'm only excited about MCU films.
Comic movies from other studios I don't care much for. Couldn't care less about Morbius or Venom 2 because Sony are shit at doing comic films.
And as fun as Shazam and Aquaman were, they are still many pegs below what the MCU offer. Wife and I watched Wonder Woman last night for the 2nd time and it was no where near as fun as it originally was. It actually put a bit of a downer on me for WW84 tonight.
For me it's the characterisation and the MCU nails it. And Endgame is definitely too tier MCU for me. Sure Hulk didn't get a staring role and I was disappointed we didn't get to see him wreck shop in the final battle but he isn't the main focus of the story. Also if Hulk were in that beginning NY fight in Infinity War he would have smashed Cull Obsidian too easily.
sol_bad
Member
They didn't undo the snap BTW, they just brought everyone back who were snapped away. And everyone dying is part of the Infinity comic storyline, you can't put that story on screen without doing the most important part.
sol_bad
Member
sol_bad
Weirdly I prefer the pre-MCU movies. Maybe I was just the right age, but Raimi Spider-Man, Blade 1 + 2, and the Fox X-Men films (for the most part) left way more of an impression on me
I saw Blade and X-men when I was in my teens and I loved them back then.
But Fox murdered the X-Men compared to what they are in the comics. The quality of the X-Men films is also all over the place, X1 is boring, X3 is just terrible, X: Apocalypse and Dark Phoenix are atrocious. X2, Days of Future Past and Logan are incredibly great. Due to this differing quality it was hard to get excited as you weren't sure what you were going to get.
Blade 1 is boring these days, Del Toros Blade 2 is still entertaining though. Blade 3 ...... the less said the better.
Raimis Spidey 1 and 2 are cornball but Spidey 2 is legit one of the best super hero films next to The Dark Knight. Then Amazing Spider-Man 1, 2 and Venom came out with shit tier quality. So 1 great film out of 5.
In all of those IPs there are multiple films and the majority to me are average to terrible. The home runs are minimal. Where as the MCU is home run after home run, the quality rarely drops.
Cycom
Banned
I’ve honestly never watched 90% of superhero movies. This shit is cringeworthy. I assume this kind of film is mana for neckbeard manchildren.
cryptoadam
Banned
Didnt read the comic book. Watched some of the cartoon though and like that better where each avenger outsmarted Thanos for each stone.
I just think ENDGAME was a 2 hour 30 minute mcguffin chase to kill Tony and Widow and they could of cut all the time travel stuff and made one movie instead of 2. The only really good thing was the final fight. The rest was just busy work go here go there stuff that in the grand scheme of things didnt need a 150 minute movie.
I thought the whole point of Endgame Hulk is that he WAS a blend of Hulk and Banner, hence the more Ruffalo looking hulk.
And the film had a bananas amount of CGI, wasn't the budget like 500 million or something. There just isn't enough effects houses to do all that cgi justice IMHO.
And the film had a bananas amount of CGI, wasn't the budget like 500 million or something. There just isn't enough effects houses to do all that cgi justice IMHO.
Cocksman
Member
Immortal hulk is both current and a character defining run. I can’t recommend it enough
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Shadowplay1979
Member
Because at most studios this work is shopped out to..artists are not payed to the push the limits of the cgi....they are not payed to find new and better ways to make things more realistic. They are paid to do the bare minimum in the fastest time possible. This is why cgi in film has not improved much in the last 15 years. Trust me , most artists who work on this stuff would love to make the cg better. If Avengers 14 looks like shit but makes 5 billion dollars, why would Disney care if it looks better.
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Pagusas
Elden Member
This is probably the best reason I’ve seen for why something like Jurassic Park still can “look” and feel better than a modern film, because it was true artist and master craftsmen working on it, not farmed out to the cheapest bidder.
All the technology in the world won’t turn a visionless grunt into a true artist.
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BluRayHiDef
Banned
You've got to watch these CGI movies on Blu-ray Disc or 4K-UHD Blu-ray Disc, which are far less compressed than online streams and therefore convey more detail in the CGI models. Smart Hulk looks great on my 4K physical copy of Endgame.
Shadowplay1979
Member
No dont disregard the people who work on these movies, they are not bad artists or cheap labor...just look at their personal projects. Its just that the film industry puts these people on a timer to get the most adequate work but not the work that is pushing boundries which many of the same people are capable of.
bender
What time is it?
Corrected to reflect my list.
sol_bad
Member
Do you mean the Avengers: Earth's Mightiest Heroes cartoon? I still needs to watch it.
sol_bad
Member
I've heard it's good too. I bought the first hardcover but waiting for the 2nd one before reading it. Isn't it more horror centric and psychological?
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bitbydeath
Gold Member
Cocksman
Member
very much so. It’s fantastic.
Richard Packer
Member
Grey Hulk, and Planet Hulk are pretty good. I never got around to World War Hulk which is the sequel to Planet Hulk. I've heard good things about that as well.
I like how they use Hulk in Old Man Logan.
Infinity War > Endgame
Infinity War just rocks pacing wise as it's literally just a crazy 24 hours of the universe colliding ending off with the bad guy winning. There was little Endgame could do to match the breakneck speed so it felt like it dragged, got bogged down and just wandered around the long way to wrap things up.
Infinity War just rocks pacing wise as it's literally just a crazy 24 hours of the universe colliding ending off with the bad guy winning. There was little Endgame could do to match the breakneck speed so it felt like it dragged, got bogged down and just wandered around the long way to wrap things up.
VulcanRaven
Member
2003 Hulk still looks great:
I don't think the cgi in The Incredible Hulk (2008) has aged very well.
I don't think the cgi in The Incredible Hulk (2008) has aged very well.
CloudNull
Banned
Super hero movies are played out and I stopped watching them a long time ago. Only thing related to heroes that I will watch is the Boys. I dont understand how anyone can still be hyped about the new run of MCU movies coming out.
On Topic: I agree this CGI fuck up must have been a post-production time crunch. Hulk looks terrible.
On Topic: I agree this CGI fuck up must have been a post-production time crunch. Hulk looks terrible.
SafeOrAlone
Banned
BluRayHiDef
Banned
Straight from the Blu-ray Disc.
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HoodWinked
Member
Looks fine they wrote the character so banner could control hulk so they designed his face to match Ruffalo. But a green character will always look out of place. Look at master chief he always looks like a cartoon character no matter how much they improve game lighting or materials or polycounts.
VulcanRaven
Member
I recommend watching the live-action series from the 70s-80s starring Bill Bixby and Lou Ferrigno. That is my favorite version of the character.
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sol_bad
Member
Straight from the Blu-ray Disc.
Thank you.
People are so hyperbolic because of stupid Youtube and it's compression. Screen size will also make a difference. I haven't got Endgame on 4K yet (or a 4K TV since returning to Oz) but Hulk looked amazing on the big screen in the cinema.
Soodanim
Gold Member
I don't know if you're joking or not, but I liked the Arrowverse at the beginning. Crossovers were fun and different and the whole thing was light hearted TV you can relax to. But it all got dragged out for far too long with the same stories being told by the end.
John Day
Member
I think, as many say, problem is art direction. Hulk in endgame crosses that valley line, he looks too much like banner, so much so we shout “fake!!”
They should have left hulk as he was, but is pattern of speech (not his voice much) changed to be more intelligent. That way, when he needs to be aggresive like at the end fight, he should show it. But alas.
They should have left hulk as he was, but is pattern of speech (not his voice much) changed to be more intelligent. That way, when he needs to be aggresive like at the end fight, he should show it. But alas.