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TheOnlyOneHeEverFeared said:
UK Gaf, any good prices for Puyo Puyo tetris on switch about?
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It seems it's still Base.com at 30.85£.
But if you got amazon prime and want to buy something else, it's at 35£ there, which you can get 2£ off from Prime savings, and the 5£ off 40£ coupon is still valid until May 7th.
 
Unless my eyes deceived me, seems like Amazon.de has started offering free shipping to Finland for orders over 39€. I imagine such offer might also hold true to other non-Amazon European countries.
 
Famassu said:
Unless my eyes deceived me, seems like Amazon.de has started offering free shipping to Finland for orders over 39€. I imagine such offer might also hold true to other non-Amazon European countries.
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Amazon customers across Europe can now receive FREE Delivery

Amazon customers from the newly-added countries - the Czech Republic, Denmark, Sweden, Finland, Hungary, and Slovakia - can now enjoy Free Standard Delivery on tens of millions of items on qualifying orders over 39 EUR when shopping on www.amazon.de. Customers with eligible orders over 39 EUR are automatically offered Free Standard Delivery at the checkout stage.
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On the front page.
 
hmm, decisions, decisions..

Get Persona 5 for 40 now (with amazon code) even though I will be unlikely to get to it for a few months. Or wait.

My general rule of only buying games as I am ready to play them has worked out well in the past - given that new games drop in price sharply after 6 months. However Atlus games do tend to hold value for longer (especially physical copies) and Deep Silver seem to be keeping runs small and reprinting as demand dictates.

witchedwiz said:
cheaper place for:
nier automata
horizon zero dawn
yakuza zero
?
halp :)
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which country and cheaper than what? all quite new so you are looking at around GBP 40 each. I have seen Yakuza Zero for 30 when they had it on psn promotion and stores matched it - but looks like prices are back up.
 
So I want to send a friend in Italy a couple of small items from Japan, their total value is 2000 jpy with shipping, I can send it from Japan or get a friend on holiday to bring it back to the UK and then send from here (but it's more expensive and less convenient). Just wanted to know if my friend in Italy will be hit by import fees at a value of 2000 jpy. Can't find much info online.
 
Stupid question but why does PCGAMESUPPLY charge £1.53 activation fees for $20 PSN cards but nothing on two $10 cards? :/
 
GetDigitized said:
So I want to send a friend in Italy a couple of small items from Japan, their total value is 2000 jpy with shipping, I can send it from Japan or get a friend on holiday to bring it back to the UK and then send from here (but it's more expensive and less convenient). Just wanted to know if my friend in Italy will be hit by import fees at a value of 2000 jpy. Can't find much info online.
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Your friend won't be hit by "import fees" (import duty). Import tax is only due on orders of which the so called "customs value" is over €150.

The treshold for VAT through mail is €22 in EU countries though. Technically, if the total value of the items is 2000 yen, you'd also have to add the shipping cost (and any other administrative costs paid for handling the package) to that to know the so called "customs value". So if that 2000 yen + shipping exceeds €22, VAT is officially due.

However, I think customs will cut your friend some slack if the value on the shipping label says 2000 yen. So I think it's pretty safe to send those items to your friend from Japan and he likely won't have to pay anything.

On your end it's going to be very important to clearly mark the value on the outside of the box. Either on the shipping label, or by sticking an invoice on the outer box for customs purposes.
 
foobarry81 said:
Your friend won't be hit by "import fees" (import duty). Import tax is only due on orders of which the so called "customs value" is over €150.

The treshold for VAT through mail is €22 in EU countries though. Technically, if the total value of the items is 2000 yen, you'd also have to add the shipping cost (and any other administrative costs paid for handling the package) to that to know the so called "customs value". So if that 2000 yen + shipping exceeds €22, VAT is officially due.

However, I think customs will cut your friend some slack if the value on the shipping label says 2000 yen. So I think it's pretty safe to send those items to your friend from Japan and he likely won't have to pay anything.

On your end it's going to be very important to clearly mark the value on the outside of the box. Either on the shipping label, or by sticking an invoice on the outer box for customs purposes.
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I don't think that is true. If the value of the item is below €22 you don't pay VAT. Shipping does not matter in this case.

But should the item be worth more than €22 they will also include the shipping costs when calculating how much VAT you have to pay.

Marking it as a gift should also help, I think.
 
Zatoth said:
I don't think that is true. If the value of the item is below €22 you don't pay VAT. Shipping does not matter in this case.

But should the item be worth more than €22 they will also include the shipping costs when calculating how much VAT you have to pay.

Marking it as a gift should also help, I think.
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Shipping is factored into this very much so (*shakes fist at sky*).
Germany here.
 
Zatoth said:
I don't think that is true. If the value of the item is below €22 you don't pay VAT. Shipping does not matter in this case.

But should the item be worth more than €22 they will also include the shipping costs when calculating how much VAT you have to pay.

Marking it as a gift should also help, I think.
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TheMoon said:
Shipping is factored into this very much so (*shakes fist at sky*).
Germany here.
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@Zatoth: no, you are wrong. All costs made to ship an item into the EU count towards the customs value. So that includes the value of the contents, shipping costs, insurance, administrative costs et cetera.

What does happen in some countries, as I mentioned before, is that customs (or individual customs officers) cuts recipients some slack by letting VAT slide if the indicated value of the contents on the shipping label is lower than €22. But the rule is that whenever the "customs value" of the package exceeds €22, VAT is due.

The main reason, I think, to cut people some slack in those cases is because you could end up in an ironic situation where you almost pay more VAT than the package supposedly is worth. That just feels very unfair to people.
 
foobarry81 said:
@Zatoth: no, you are wrong. All costs made to ship an item into the EU count towards the customs value. So that includes the value of the contents, shipping costs, insurance, administrative costs et cetera.

What does happen in some countries, as I mentioned before, is that customs (or individual customs officers) cuts recipients some slack by letting VAT slide if the indicated value of the contents on the shipping label is lower than €22. But the rule is that whenever the "customs value" of the package exceeds €22, VAT is due.

The main reason, I think, to cut people some slack in those cases is because you could end up in an ironic situation where you almost pay more VAT than the package supposedly is worth. That just feels very unfair to people.
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VAT is then only due if the VAT value exceeds €5 (again, my experience in practice and after inquiring about it during customs visits). If your value is over €22 but the VAT you would pay is lower than €5, you have to fill out the forms so they can calculate it but don't have to pay anything.
 
Marking the package as a Gift (which it is in this case) raises the VAT-free limit to 45€. In some cases you may be asked to provide some kind of proof that this is indeed a gift, but at least here in Poland almost always a simple written statement plus a store receipt to prove how much the goods are worth is enough. Don't know about the customs offices in other EU countries but here they are pretty lax with packages around 50€ or less, unless we're talking electronics like phones or computer parts which somehow trigger them into VAT frenzy.

EDIT: I might be talking out of my ass since I can't find any official confirmation, but I'm pretty sure I've read about it somewhere and it lines up with my own experience with packages from outside EU.
 
foobarry81 said:
@Zatoth: no, you are wrong. All costs made to ship an item into the EU count towards the customs value. So that includes the value of the contents, shipping costs, insurance, administrative costs et cetera.

What does happen in some countries, as I mentioned before, is that customs (or individual customs officers) cuts recipients some slack by letting VAT slide if the indicated value of the contents on the shipping label is lower than €22. But the rule is that whenever the "customs value" of the package exceeds €22, VAT is due.

The main reason, I think, to cut people some slack in those cases is because you could end up in an ironic situation where you almost pay more VAT than the package supposedly is worth. That just feels very unfair to people.
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That's not the rule according to this:

VAT is not due when the total value of all goods in a consignment (value not inclusive of customs duties or transport costs) is less than a threshold. The threshold may vary from 10 euros to 22 euros, depending on the EU country.For an overview see the pie chart below (information available for 24 Member States). Certain countries (like Sweden and Poland) however, exclude mail orders from the exemption. This exception does not apply to tobacco or tobacco products and alcoholic products.
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http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...s-online-coming-from-a-noneu-union-country_en

So it doesn't seem likely that it's down to leniency on the part of individual customs officers. In 13 years of online shopping i've never had to pay import taxes when the combined base price of the items (not the customs value) was under 22 EUR, and i've made tons of orders where the price excluding shipping was just below that amount.

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I looked up some more info about this and it seems that, for example, in Germany shipping costs do count towards the 22 EUR threshold. It would be interesting to know why some EU member states have a different approach to this.
 
Hey guys, I got a €45 off an Xbox One S from amazon.de promotion code:

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DISCLAIMER: If someone uses my code, I will get Forza 6 for free.
 
I mentioned last week GameSeek's £13.85 pricing for The Sexy Brutale on PS4. I've just received my copy today and, aside from being a little slow to dispatch (order Sunday, dispatched Thursday, arrived today), I've no complaints - and I can confirm that it's a standard UK copy, complete with the misprinted first-run manual! Hopefully that's some reassurance if anyone else was considering a purchase.
 
TheMoon said:
No. They're a big national electronics chain.
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Saturn's also in Belgium for example, perhaps even in Austria or Switzerland too, it's not exclusive to Germany. But yeah: their local online stores don't ship abroad.

illusionary said:
I mentioned last week GameSeek's £13.85 pricing for The Sexy Brutale on PS4. I've just received my copy today and, aside from being a little slow to dispatch (order Sunday, dispatched Thursday, arrived today), I've no complaints - and I can confirm that it's a standard UK copy, complete with the misprinted first-run manual! Hopefully that's some reassurance if anyone else was considering a purchase.
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I went with the Spanish release that came with a comic book. Sort of tempted to get an English copy too though, so thank you for that.
 
illusionary said:
I mentioned last week GameSeek's £13.85 pricing for The Sexy Brutale on PS4. I've just received my copy today and, aside from being a little slow to dispatch (order Sunday, dispatched Thursday, arrived today), I've no complaints - and I can confirm that it's a standard UK copy, complete with the misprinted first-run manual! Hopefully that's some reassurance if anyone else was considering a purchase.
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I bought that when you posted it but never posted in here to say. I also received it today. I was fully expecting it to get cancelled.

Thanks for the post. I probably wouldn't have come across it if you hadn't posted it. Don't even think it has been posted on HotUKDeals.
 
Moze said:
I bought that when you posted it but never posted in here to say. I also received it today. I was fully expecting it to get cancelled.

Thanks for the post. I probably wouldn't have come across it if you hadn't posted it. Don't even think it has been posted on HotUKDeals.
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HUKD saw fit to ban GameSeek - that'll be why it's not shown up over there.

If you want to get hold of a copy of the manual without the misprint, see here: http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/2...tail-run-has-an-amusing-misstep-in-its-manual
 
Advent Children Cloud amiibo is back also:
http://www.game.co.uk/en/cloud-amiibo-super-smash-bros-collection-advent-children-1891487

Though I'm still getting errors when I add anything to my basket, it still seems to think I have original design Cloud and both Bayonettas in my basket from when they were first available. There's no way for me to try and edit my basket either to remove them without the page crashing. The joys of Game's terrible website!
 
Quick question with Tesco Direct if you preorder a game and order a game that is released and put them in one package with a shipping date of 20/11/2017. Will they ship the released items first or wait till the 20/11/2017 date to ship said games?
 
#1 defender said:
That's not the rule according to this:



http://ec.europa.eu/taxation_custom...s-online-coming-from-a-noneu-union-country_en

So it doesn't seem likely that it's down to leniency on the part of individual customs officers. In 13 years of online shopping i've never had to pay import taxes when the combined base price of the items (not the customs value) was under 22 EUR, and i've made tons of orders where the price excluding shipping was just below that amount.

Edit:

I looked up some more info about this and it seems that, for example, in Germany shipping costs do count towards the 22 EUR threshold. It would be interesting to know why some EU member states have a different approach to this.
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It's really varied, here in Portugal they only make you pay VAT if the item exceeds ~50€
 
Linkified said:
Quick question with Tesco Direct if you preorder a game and order a game that is released and put them in one package with a shipping date of 20/11/2017. Will they ship the released items first or wait till the 20/11/2017 date to ship said games?
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There should be an option to split the delivery at the checkout.
 
foobarry81 said:
Saturn's also in Belgium for example, perhaps even in Austria or Switzerland too, it's not exclusive to Germany. But yeah: their local online stores don't ship abroad.



I went with the Spanish release that came with a comic book. Sort of tempted to get an English copy too though, so thank you for that.
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Saturn is out of Switzerland now. They were owned there by Mediamarkt but the brand failed.
 
Linkified said:
Quick question with Tesco Direct if you preorder a game and order a game that is released and put them in one package with a shipping date of 20/11/2017. Will they ship the released items first or wait till the 20/11/2017 date to ship said games?
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Don't remember a specific option at checkout, but last year I did the 'two for £70' for Fifa 17 and horizon. Fifa came in September and Horizon in march
 
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