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China taking lead on killing the pop scene - wants to ban lip synching

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Ashlee, Brittney, all the boy bands youre days are numbered China is on the warpath. Perhaps this threat is greater than that of N. Korea.

Chinese adviser urges lip synching ban

Associated Press

BEIJING - Chinese government advisers meeting in Beijing this week have some weighty matters to discuss: blocking Taiwan's formal independence, alleviating dire poverty in the countryside. And lip synching.

Ma Bomin, an official with Shanghai's municipal radio, film and television administration, likens the practice of performers pretending to sing to selling fake goods. She wants to pass a law making it a crime for a performer to do so without first notifying audience members.

"Fake singing is no different from trading in fakes. It should be resolutely boycotted and shunned," Ma was quoted as saying in Saturday's Beijing News.

Ma didn't say what punishments would be proposed under the measure, included in a draft of China's first comprehensive law on arts and culture. Members of the Chinese People's Political Consultative Conference - a key advisory board to the national legislature - are discussing the draft law among other proposals.

The law follows a campaign by Chinese rock star and artists' rights advocate Cui Jian to mobilize fans to boycott lip synching artists. The practice is believed to be widespread in China, encouraged by a state-sponsored arts scene that churns out cookie-cutter performers with little real talent.
 

fallout

Member
Ma Bomin, an official with Shanghai's municipal radio, film and television administration, likens the practice of performers pretending to sing to selling fake goods.
Fuckin' right.

I don't care if you're sick or not "feeling well". I've heard many bands play in worse conditions, apologize for it and still put on a kick ass show. And even if it wasn't their greatest set, they were at least up front about it. When I go to a concert, I don't want to hear exactly what I heard on the album, I want to hear the songs with some form of live energy put into it.

Hopefully other countries pick up on this as well. I'd like to hear what kind of defense the pop artists could mount.
 
Oh my god, Ashley simpson's and Lindsay Lohan's singing careers will both die.


YES!

By the way, I think lip synchin is much more present in pop than any other types of music?
 

NLB2

Banned
What's so bad about lip syncing? When I go to a concert, I go not to witness a musician performing but rather to hear that performance. A good, lipsynched performance > a not so good real performance.
 

fallout

Member
NLB2 said:
What's so bad about lip syncing? When I go to a concert, I go not to witness a musician performing but rather to hear that performance. A good, lipsynched performance > a not so good real performance.
Why go see it live then? You, as a member of the audience have no effect on the singer if they're lip synching.
 

iapetus

Scary Euro Man
NLB2 said:
What's so bad about lip syncing? When I go to a concert, I go not to witness a musician performing but rather to hear that performance. A good, lipsynched performance > a not so good real performance.

Then stay at home and listen to the CD.

When I go and see a band/musician live, I want to see them live, thanks.
 

0wn3d

Member
NLB2 said:
What's so bad about lip syncing? When I go to a concert, I go not to witness a musician performing but rather to hear that performance. A good, lipsynched performance > a not so good real performance.

Now this I agree with. I don't see why people make such a big deal out of lip-synching. If I go to a live performance, I don't want the singer just standing in front of the mic trying to sing his best. I want to see dancing and hear the song the way is was meant to be heard. A good show would consist of both elements: some live singing with some lip-synching.
 
"want to see dancing and hear the song the way is was meant to be heard"

Then do as others have said, save the cash, and listen to the CD at home. There's a difference between a live show and a CD. A lot of bands are boring on CD but tear down the walls live and vice versa. There's an energy that's lost when you lip sync.
 

NLB2

Banned
fallout said:
Why go see it live then? You, as a member of the audience have no effect on the singer if they're lip synching.
The reason I go see music live is because no recording has ever been able to capture the sound of a live orchestra. But for pop music, where the recorded sound is generally ten times better than the live sound, why would you prefer the live sound?
 

Ferrio

Banned
NLB2 said:
The reason I go see music live is because no recording has ever been able to capture the sound of a live orchestra. But for pop music, where the recorded sound is generally ten times better than the live sound, why would you prefer the live sound?


Why would you prefer a pop music concert....
 

Escape Goat

Member
Pop music concerts suck. They sound nothing like the song. Its overproduced shit. But damn if some of them aren't catchy.
 

karasu

Member
NLB2 said:
What's so bad about lip syncing? When I go to a concert, I go not to witness a musician performing but rather to hear that performance. A good, lipsynched performance > a not so good real performance.


If you go to a live show to hear a performance, you should realize that lip synching isn't allowing you to hear a performance at all, but you are witnessing a musician pretending to perform. :/ Lip synching gives you exactly what you say you don't want.
 

fallout

Member
So what we've resolved is that pop music isn't well suited for live singing because it's so overproduced in the studio? You know, that almost sounds logical.

And why bring up an orchestra? They're playing their instruments in a live setting. No, the crowd isn't going crazy, but there's always something inspiring about playing in front of a large group of people.
 

NLB2

Banned
karasu said:
If you go to a live show to hear a performance, you should realize that lip synching isn't allowing you to hear a performance at all, but you are witnessing a musician pretending to perform. :/ Lip synching gives you exactly what you say you don't want.
By performance I mean the music being created. If it sounds better recorded than it does being sung live, by all means lip synch.
 

karasu

Member
NLB2 said:
By performance I mean the music being created. If it sounds better recorded than it does being sung live, by all means lip synch.


It doesn't always have to sound better, it could just be different. Lyrics change, energy changes, etc etc. So what if someones voice cracks a couple of times. If it's called "live" it should be live. Why on earth would you pay to go watch someone play their CD. :/
 
It can be awesome to hear a slightly different version of a song you like in a live performance, rather than hearing the exact same thing everytime you listen to a recording. Hearing a live performance has rekindled my interest in quite a few songs I was bored with from listening to the studio version a hundred times straight.
 

NLB2

Banned
karasu said:
It doesn't always have to sound better, it could just be different. Lyrics change, energy changes, etc etc. So what if someones voice cracks a couple of times. If it's called "live" it should be live. Why on earth would you pay to go watch someone play their CD. :/
OK, I guess we have a difference in opinion, then.
 

NLB2

Banned
karasu said:
yeah. Just imagine if Pride were like Pro Wrestling. That's why lip-synching blows. :lol
:lol
That might be a good thing. Sakuraba would stand a chane the next time he fights Silva that way :D.
 

bishoptl

Banstick Emeritus
"Fake singing is no different from trading in fakes. It should be resolutely boycotted and shunned," Ma was quoted as saying in Saturday's Beijing News.
China has the largest counterfeit market in the world! :lol
 
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