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China warns Trump against abandoning Paris climate agreement
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Escape Goat
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This will just make him to want to do it even faster.
theCalamity
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Don't believe the hoax
As noted before, China is going to push back hard on this.
Putin won't be far behind, he's also on board with fighting climate change (particularly since the negative repercussions are rather serious for his homeland).
There's a four year buffer put in place by the original draft, so Trump can't do much but threaten to pull out in four years. If he threatens it for now, China and the rest of the world will hit the US hard with sanctions. Four years of heavy sanctions is going to hurt, a lot.
Putin won't be far behind, he's also on board with fighting climate change (particularly since the negative repercussions are rather serious for his homeland).
There's a four year buffer put in place by the original draft, so Trump can't do much but threaten to pull out in four years. If he threatens it for now, China and the rest of the world will hit the US hard with sanctions. Four years of heavy sanctions is going to hurt, a lot.
Brian_FETO
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Pretty interesting that China of all people would warn about this
Very interesting
Makes you think, doesn't it?
Very interesting
Makes you think, doesn't it?
chrisPjelly
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Tbf China only started giving a shit when people's mouths started to be filled with clumps of LITERAL SMOG.
And at this point, Republicans will only start to do the same whenever that happens in th US
"The climate change wall just got 10 feet higher"
Which is good, we'll need levees.
Considering the Siberian permafrost has begun to melt, it's not too surprising that Putin would be big on fighting CC.
Buba Big Guns
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Holy shit...you KNOW when you're on the wrong side of history when even China, Russia, India are telling you this.
This is an issue that goes far beyond the borders of the US.
But who cares what i say, i'm just likely to be part of the first generation that will have to deal with the full effect of neglecting the climate, nothing special, right?
To some this planet is their home, to others a piggybank
But who cares what i say, i'm just likely to be part of the first generation that will have to deal with the full effect of neglecting the climate, nothing special, right?
To some this planet is their home, to others a piggybank
They are actually very concerned on the matter, environmental issues are what fuels most of the protests in china
ProfessorMoran
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So did China promised to stop burning coal? Their cities have the worst smog and pollution.
Mr. Giggles
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Wow can't believe I'm gonna say this but...
Good guy china
Good guy china
Trump has to realize how bad going the course of fossil fuels will be
you fuck the planet. But also as efficiencies are made that bring green energy well beyond the efficiencies of fossil fuel, you lose an opportunity to become a central player in the field. When price:watt goes in favor of green, US would be fucked as no one will want fossil fuels anyways. Sticking to it is just going to hurt them in the end.
Supermaterials are about to change the world and the USA is going to miss out.
you fuck the planet. But also as efficiencies are made that bring green energy well beyond the efficiencies of fossil fuel, you lose an opportunity to become a central player in the field. When price:watt goes in favor of green, US would be fucked as no one will want fossil fuels anyways. Sticking to it is just going to hurt them in the end.
Supermaterials are about to change the world and the USA is going to miss out.
The pessimist in me thinks it's just because the US abandoning the Paris Climate Agreement would just give them a competitive business advantage (as in, China is using this as a ruse and don't really care about the environment at all.)
therealist
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The irony of China of all countries supporting this.
Unfriendly TimeTraveler
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let us hope that trump will be more like the mold for the people and wishes of the world (cause he has no clue what he is doing) and will actually do things that will benefit america or he can bet his ass that an angry mob will be out for his wig.
also it is scary when china and Russia are actually wanting to stop climate change from getting even worse than it already is.but it is good because it shows that in even in bad people they have some good qualities about them (talking about Putin here mostly)
also it is scary when china and Russia are actually wanting to stop climate change from getting even worse than it already is.but it is good because it shows that in even in bad people they have some good qualities about them (talking about Putin here mostly)
uncleniccius
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In defence of China, per capita emissions are not *that* bad and much of what they emit can be blamed on the west as a big share of their emissions are from manufacturing things for the West. I always find it interesting that the Gulf nations who emit the most evade blame, and outside of them (since they are so small) so do Australia who are the next biggest culprit per capita.
I really hope he doesn't back out as this is shit that could have a really bad long term impact. He is bound to it for four years though right?
LUFTRAUSER
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That's funny. China doesn't even need global warming for America's manufacturing to be noncompetitive with theirs.Good one China.
chaosblade
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Hopefully countries are willing to push back hard.
Most ironic part is that a bigger push for clean energy could create jobs, but Trump and company don't want to see that because it doesn't favor the existing big money.
Most ironic part is that a bigger push for clean energy could create jobs, but Trump and company don't want to see that because it doesn't favor the existing big money.
Guerrillas in the Mist
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China has become one of the biggest investors in green energy, which is amazing considering how much they've relied on fossil fuels to fuel their rapid expansion.
Samurai G0SU
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Everything about trumps plans are backwards for the human species.
DontBeThatGuy
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Trump is in for a rude awakening trying if he tries to pull off most of the shit he's suggested.
That's what china wants you to think
Oh Putin will be extremely serious on this matter, no doubt.
We're on a precipice, the whole rest of the world would be right of mind to nuke the US under Trump if he actually tries to do shit that would speed-up the climate change and its impacts. It would endanger the entire human species.
WaterAstro
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Well China is in huge trouble with pollution that it is adversely killing their people.
They are desperate to move to renewable and clean energy sources.
They are leading...
PdotMichael
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China is investing a lot in renewable energy sources. They are #1 in both solar and wind by installations.
The time for naive optimism was before November 8th, 2016.
Dubbedinenglish
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Excuse me. What part of "Cletus needs his 80k a year coal mining job back" do you nor understand?
CrocMother
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But Russia agrees
RoadHazard
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So here we are. I now respect China more than the US, at least in this matter. What a world.
DragonSworne
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This plays right into what Trump has said in the past - climate change is a hoax created by China.
Kralamoonard
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If you guys have watched Before then Flood (Leonardo Di Caprio's documentary about climate change), you'll see that China has actually changed dramatically and I think is actually doing better than the USA (not sure about the latter point but they're definitely going in the right direction), so this isn't surprising!
The US should pave the way for other countries and yet it's doing the opposite. Sad!
The US should pave the way for other countries and yet it's doing the opposite. Sad!
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