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[PdotMichael]

It's not the US they're making look like bad guys, it's Trump, and they are right.

The USA per capita CO2 emissions aren't running circles around pretty much all other countries since Trump.

Are people aren't aware how fucked up the USA is?

 

[Raven117]

The pessimist in me thinks it's just because the US abandoning the Paris Climate Agreement would just give them a competitive business advantage (as in, China is using this as a ruse and don't really care about the environment at all.)

Sure it's pessimistic, but there are lots of political factors at play... And honestly... The actual concern over the planet is probably lower on the list for most of these players.

 

[Apathy]

Never in my wildest dreams could I ever guess China of all places was the one going to fight for the side of reason when it can't to climate change against the US. Were through the looking glass here people

 

[chillybright]

Have you seen the smog filled pics in china? it's a very real reality there. I can see why they're 100% concerned.

And it is the worst in Beijing, where all of Xi and his cabinet and their family live.

 

[samn]

Russia isn't actually taking any action on climate change, they're relying on their struggling economy, forest carbon sinks and some creative accounting to meet the targets without essentially having to do anything

http://thediplomat.com/2016/02/russia-and-climate-change-a-looming-threat/

 

[Nerdkiller]

Lol if Putin is pushing against climate change, Trump not going to be far off from "considering" another option from backing off on climate deals. Can't disappoint his boy!

But how will all the coal miners react if they see Trump rolling back on his "climate change hoax" statements?

 

[WedgeX]

When China is warning you of your consequences regarding climate change that's when you know there's something rotten on your side.

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[Blablurn]

Im glad China is pushing this so hard.

 

[PdotMichael]

The pessimist in me thinks it's just because the US abandoning the Paris Climate Agreement would just give them a competitive business advantage (as in, China is using this as a ruse and don't really care about the environment at all.)

That's bullshit though.

Even ignoring the Climate Change itself, there are social, geopolitical and economical reasons to move to renewable energy for China or all other countries.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

Im glad China is pushing this so hard.

As they should be. Smog-filled Beijing makes Beijing, a city I love and would consider my second home, a bad city.

I mean I lived in northern Beijing and while most of the times the sky there was blue, as soon as you drove downtown, just 30-40km away from there, you couldnt even see 200m.

 

[Regulus Tera]

When China is warning you of your consequences regarding climate change that's when you know there's something rotten on your side.

The US is gonna be part of the nex Axis of evil

 

[koji kabuto]

I can see Russia and China taking advantage of this to blame the US for future issues regarding climate change.

 

[Spectone]

ANU academic Dr Luke Kemp is proposing a range of amendments to the Paris agreement to deal with 'renegade states'. These include punitive measures, such as trade restrictions and carbon border taxes to prevent 'free-riding', and the recognition of 'non-state' parties that would allow states like California to 'opt in' to UN climate finance arrangements and global carbon markets if the US does eventually 'opt out'.

Read more at http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14693062.2016.1176007

 

[Epsilon-delta]

That's bullshit though.

Even ignoring the Climate Change itself, there are social, geopolitical and economical reasons to move to renewable energy for China or all other countries.

Exactly.

Self-preservation is up there.

 

[Crayon]

The US is in the hands of this republican insurgency and they are bent on actually accelerating environmental damage.

I hate to say this but all other issues including destruction of our economy, social progress, civil war and international aggression are second to this situation. Our apparent trajectory and influence on climate change makes us the bad guys of the world. Or at least the most dangerous organization in the history of the world.

Any level of aggression against the us in the name of the climate issue would be justified by future generations whose existence depended on it.

 

[Alienfan]

The one thing that could have actually saved rural America were renewables, Democrats didn't capitalise enough on that

 

[Palette Swap]

I was going to write "that's really embarrassing", but then I remembered Trump and the people who voted him in wouldn't be embarrassed as they couldn't give two shits about climate change.

 

[Chairmanchuck]

I can see Russia and China taking advantage of this to blame the US for future issues regarding climate change.

If the US really abandons the Paris climate agreement, it wont just be Russia and China blaming the US...

 

[WaterAstro]

"The climate change wall just got 10 feet higher"

Which is good, we'll need levees.

Well Trump is going to be building a wall, alright.

Not a wall for Mexico, but a wall around Florida to keep the water out.

 

[LQX]

Trump don't care.

China, US relations will be very interesting in the next few years. We might see who really needs who and who is really scared of who.

 

[Trickster]

I'd strongly support sanctions on the US if the climate is put in jeopardy.

Man, imagine the US becoming the country that get's put under santions by the rest of the world.

Freaking bizzaro world

 

[Holden]

Man, imagine the US becoming the country that get's put under santions by the rest of the world.

Freaking bizzaro world

Welcome to globalism

 

[hypernima]

We have clean coal, we'll be fine.

 

[KingSnake]

From leading the world to no. 1 villain of the planet in one swift election.

 

[darkwing]

China and Russia serving as voices of reason. Lawd.

lawd, what is happening

 

[charliebear]

Tbf China only started giving a shit when people's mouths started to be filled with clumps of LITERAL SMOG.

Spoiler

And at this point, Republicans will only start to do the same whenever that happens in th US

Much like the UK did in a way with the London smog. Stopped burning in the cities. Take s something to start somewhere.

 

[Nikodemos]

There are good reasons for Putin to fear climate change.

Warmer weather causes permafrost to thaw, which has several unpleasant consequences.
When it melts, turbo-anthrax spores from 20.000 years ago reactivate; then the water dries off and the (infected) dust gets swept away by the winds. There have already been outbreaks caused by ancient anthrax.
Then the methane trapped in the muddy ice percolates upwards and enters the atmosphere: methane is four times as potent as CO2 at greenhouse effect; furthermore, it breaks down into more CO2 (and water vapour). Lastly, the decaying plant bits start rotting again as microbes gain purchase, producing even more fresh methane. Oh, and did I mention that the methane might catch fire?

And then there are the summertime forest fires. Since Russia is so vast, forest fires can quickly spread over thousands of hectares. A single year of heavy forest fires caused problems to Russia's food supply. Now imagine them as a yearly event.

 

[Sirpopopop]

China are the good guys now.

 

[Deku Tree]

Hopefully Putin can talk some sense into the Donald.

 

[sunshine and gasoline]

China are the good guys now.

Well, in this regard it certainly is.

 

[Makai]

China are the good guys now.

Noooo they are not.

 

[Blablurn]

Noooo they are not.

Tell me how you really feel.

 

[AJLma]

With the EU and US gracefully bowing out, China steps up to their new role as the world's foremost morality authority.

 

[Mr. Giggles]

I look forward to North Korea giving the US shit for violations of human rights.

 

[bishoptl]

Putin will yank the leash as required.

 

[faisal233]

Does he even believe what he said?

He didn't say that. Never said it. Never said it.

 

[Jpop]

Pretty interesting that China of all people would warn about this

Very interesting

Makes you think, doesn't it?

China aren't people, Imagine that.

 

[Herne]

Isn't the US in serious debt to China?

 

[Nikodemos]

Putin will yank the leash as required.

I hope he remembers that his pet golden macaque needs to present at the very least a semblance of functionality.

 

[frogger]

When China needs to tell US to go Gree, you know something is wron with this country.

 

[RMI]

Never in my wildest dreams could I ever guess China of all places was the one going to fight for the side of reason when it can't to climate change against the US. Were through the looking glass here people

YUP. This is fucking crazy times we live in. I can't believe I'm rooting for China to champion the cause of environmental protection. I guess they know better than most how bad it can get so I hope they can convince our worthless incoming leaders to get in line with the rest of the world on this topic.

 

[Sirpopopop]

Read more at http://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/14693062.2016.1176007

The U.S. government won't allow California to make foreign policy on its own.

 

[youta]

It's not about being "good guys", at some point the welfare of your children (yes, the kids being born right now) starts to kick in.

 

[koji kabuto]

If the US really abandons the Paris climate agreement, it wont just be Russia and China blaming the US...

There is clusters of other countries that under the direct political influence of Russia and China, That club accepts new joiners everyday, Philippines and Egypt are latest joiners.
If the US abandons the Paris climate agreement it won't be very difficult to blame the us for the expected thousands of deaths and billions lost due to climate change effect.
Which will lead to huge political, Economical and ethical problems for the US that i don't think Trump understand.

 

[SArcher]

Hopefully Putin can talk some sense into the Donald.

Isn't this just mind-boggling?

 

[Detox]

Salute to China for saying they will go ahead with their green energy plans even if their competitors won't.

 

[sphinx]

I don't get it...

I mean, isn't climate change something that can be measured, studied and confirmed by scientists? why does Trump have to believe China or any foreign country?

aren't there any american, white, male, straight scientists around him that can confirm or debunk the existence of climate change?

 

[Kenai]

Isn't this just mind-boggling?

Yes, but after everything else that's happened isn't this just a drop in the proverbial bucket?

 

[massoluk]

China had a lot of recent rude wake-up call on environmental issues. Flood, pollution, smog, desertification, a lot of those in city areas or very near. They know they have to become more green

 

[Dubbedinenglish]

I don't get it...

I mean, isn't climate change something that can be measured, studied and confirmed by scientists? why does Trump have to believe China or any foreign country?

aren't there any american, white, male, straight scientists around him that can confirm or debunk the existence of climate change?

It's the same story with lead in the 50s and smoking in 90s. The industry is very big and doing it's damnedest to maintain their profits.