Utherellus
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Vision and gameplay loops for v1.0
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Buggy Loop
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Catching up to the stream. Just finished the base building panel.
Incredible stuffs. The monster hunting they've talked about yesterday, with crafting, the tiers of items, stats to upgrade, blueprints. To think that there's gonna be blueprint hunters that basically create a business for more rare craftings will be an interesting mechanic.
Finally, armor, weapons and ships, get their "MMO" mechanic, stats and tier levels. With the dungeons/raids talked about yesterday, it really feels like there's now incentive to do these things for better rewards, rather than picking up med-pens in a loot box like it is now. They understand the end-goal and they nailed the idea.
Base building is a game changer. Finding my own land to build on, yes please? I think I would go in the red wood, a cabin in the forests.
Just watching now the larger bases with cargo daisy chains and mineral extractors, large bases for multiple crews and hangars. Insane.
Been rumored for years 1.0 would aim for 5 systems. These are massive worlds. They calculated that if every backer had land claimed, it would only take half of Hurston planet. So spread across 5 systems, with systems like Pyro being like 3 times the size of Stanton.
I think for a 1.0 release as a foundation of the MMO and then move forward, it's damn good.
Incredible stuffs. The monster hunting they've talked about yesterday, with crafting, the tiers of items, stats to upgrade, blueprints. To think that there's gonna be blueprint hunters that basically create a business for more rare craftings will be an interesting mechanic.
Finally, armor, weapons and ships, get their "MMO" mechanic, stats and tier levels. With the dungeons/raids talked about yesterday, it really feels like there's now incentive to do these things for better rewards, rather than picking up med-pens in a loot box like it is now. They understand the end-goal and they nailed the idea.
Base building is a game changer. Finding my own land to build on, yes please? I think I would go in the red wood, a cabin in the forests.
Just watching now the larger bases with cargo daisy chains and mineral extractors, large bases for multiple crews and hangars. Insane.
5 systems is far too few.
Been rumored for years 1.0 would aim for 5 systems. These are massive worlds. They calculated that if every backer had land claimed, it would only take half of Hurston planet. So spread across 5 systems, with systems like Pyro being like 3 times the size of Stanton.
I think for a 1.0 release as a foundation of the MMO and then move forward, it's damn good.
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KyoZz
Tag, you're it.
Oh I know that, I still think it's way too small to have corpo war and all. Those corpo will be so close (especially since Pyro is 10 minutes of quantum now and not 40) that there will be no benefit to the war, so big corpo are gonna be like "you stay here, and we stay here" and that's it. I think they need at least 10 systems with some completely empty so the players can make it their own. Also the server meshing is THE BIG question. So far I'm not convinced.
And the 1.0 is without Xi'an? No Banu?
Buggy Loop
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TVexperto
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The 400 lies of Star Citizen
So I stumbled over this Imgur collection of sourced quotes from the developers: I was really surprised by how many lies and empty promises Chris Roberts and CIG have made over the years. Hindsight is a harsh mistress, but why would you still trust anything Chris Roberts says after...
clarky
Gold Member
Fuck off mate, no one cares. Your in the thread to discuss the convention. You need thread banned and your medsThe 400 lies of Star Citizen
So I stumbled over this Imgur collection of sourced quotes from the developers: I was really surprised by how many lies and empty promises Chris Roberts and CIG have made over the years. Hindsight is a harsh mistress, but why would you still trust anything Chris Roberts says after...www.neogaf.com
Buggy Loop
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So, how do you think, in your head, it's gonna go like?
"Oh, I was watching Citizencon 2954 so I ended up on the game store and saw the $45 package, then I said why not buy all ships? I have $30k of ships worth in my cart. THEN I saw
TVexperto
's post on Neogaf. OMG he saved my bank account. I didn't know I had an addiction to spending $30k on random shit by watching a stream. THANK YOU
TVexperto
, without you I would have put my whole family in debt."
This is "think of the children!" simpson gif worthy. Thanks for your concern. I think we're adults here.
You claim that you've been playing over 10 years, evocati, probably spent a fortune in the game. How much did you load your mama's credit card? Not everyone has an addiction. Are you out there also to protect players from spending on counterstrike? All the other multiplayer games with purchases? You evocati? What kind of constructive feedback would you even give on spectrum? Nobody believes you. Or otherwise, the filter of peoples allowed in that exclusive group failed hard. What does one guy who shits on anything they do, be of any help to test the game. Even the most cynical backers like SaltEMike eventually has positives to say.
OR
You're just a troll from /r/starcitizen_refunds
Case in point :
How odd
And that's just the tip of the iceberg of the garbage that's come out of your mouth in previous threads where clearly I spotted the usual sc_refunds QAnon level of conspiracies
So there's two scenarios.
- You truely invested in this game
- But you got burnt out, got bitter
- You had a spending addiction, and your psychiatrist didn't inform you that addictions are mental health problems, It could have happened with anything else, drugs, other medias, other hobbies.
- You've showcased in the multiple threads you have no idea what you're talking about technology wise. How many of your arguments I've dissected layer by layer, showcasing you're just spewing garbage with no knowledge? The server meshing one comes to mind, along with the salaries of Chris Roberts or financials of the company, which are public.
- You can't move on somehow. Why, anyone's guesses. Who in their right mind plays 10 years without any "game" content or it's pure trash. 10 years by your claims. This is meme worthy. Like those steam reviews where its negative but they have spent 5k hours in the game. Who the fuck does that.
- You're just an sc_refunds troll
- How's that discord chat to warrior all forums about any news of star citizen with copy/paste posts going so far?
- You're basically just taking all the content from that subreddit and pasting here. No original thoughts. You've showcased you don't really understand what you're talking about either. I have the receipts. For someone from Evocati, that's highly unlikely. I have 1 year in the game and can already call out your misinformation and bullshit. You have no knowledge, just copy/pasting of sc_refunds.
The sheer irony that you mentionned cult earlier, when you're regurgitating from the hate cult of sc_refunds, the group where they took the time to refund for the game, but still can't seem to be able to move on a decade later. Deep in QAnon level of conspiracies where Chris Roberts is an owner of a yacht and fleeced millions somehow away from UK laws and public records, probably also drinks virgin blood. What a joke.
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TVexperto
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I ain't reading all that. I'm happy for u tho. Or sorry that happenedSo, how do you think, in your head, it's gonna go like?
"Oh, I was watching Citizencon 2954 so I ended up on the game store and saw the $45 package, then I said why not buy all ships? I have $30k of ships worth in my cart. THEN I saw
This is "think of the children!" simpson gif worthy. Thanks for your concern. I think we're adults here.
You claim that you've been playing over 10 years, evocati, probably spent a fortune in the game. How much did you load your mama's credit card? Not everyone has an addiction. Are you out there also to protect players from spending on counterstrike? All the other multiplayer games with purchases? You evocati? What kind of constructive feedback would you even give on spectrum? Nobody believes you. Or otherwise, the filter of peoples allowed in that exclusive group failed hard. What does one guy who shits on anything they do, be of any help to test the game. Even the most cynical backers like SaltEMike eventually has positives to say.
OR
You're just a troll from /r/starcitizen_refunds
Case in point :
How odd
And that's just the tip of the iceberg of the garbage that's come out of your mouth in previous threads where clearly I spotted the usual sc_refunds QAnon level of conspiracies
So there's two scenarios.
I'm pretty certain its scenario 2
- You truely invested in this game
- But you got burnt out, got bitter
- You had a spending addiction, and your psychiatrist didn't inform you that addictions are mental health problems, It could have happened with anything else, drugs, other medias, other hobbies.
- You've showcased in the multiple threads you have no idea what you're talking about technology wise. How many of your arguments I've dissected layer by layer, showcasing you're just spewing garbage with no knowledge? The server meshing one comes to mind, along with the salaries of Chris Roberts or financials of the company, which are public.
- You can't move on somehow. Why, anyone's guesses. Who in their right mind plays 10 years without any "game" content or it's pure trash. 10 years by your claims. This is meme worthy. Like those steam reviews where its negative but they have spent 5k hours in the game. Who the fuck does that.
- You're just an sc_refunds troll
- How's that discord chat to warrior all forums about any news of star citizen with copy/paste posts going so far?
- You're basically just taking all the content from that subreddit and pasting here. No original thoughts. You've showcased you don't really understand what you're talking about either. I have the receipts. For someone from Evocati, that's highly unlikely. I have 1 year in the game and can already call out your misinformation and bullshit. You have no knowledge, just copy/pasting of sc_refunds.
The sheer irony that you mentionned cult earlier, when you're regurgitating from the hate cult of sc_refunds, the group where they took the time to refund for the game, but still can't seem to be able to move on a decade later. Deep in QAnon level of conspiracies where Chris Roberts is an owner of a yacht and fleeced millions somehow away from UK laws and public records, probably also drinks virgin blood. What a joke.
Buggy Loop
Member
Caught with pants down « oh didn’t read »
Sure buddy
Golden that this is gonna remain for all to see what kind of character you are
Buggy Loop
Member
Just saw the whole of day 2 and the 1.0 end game
Holy shit
I aimed for more solo career like bounty hunting eventually, but I kind of want to participate in some monster org with crazy space stations now. Completely insane the scale of it.
Holy shit
I aimed for more solo career like bounty hunting eventually, but I kind of want to participate in some monster org with crazy space stations now. Completely insane the scale of it.
nemiroff
Gold Member
Being a Sony fanboy (or a hater for that matter) is perfectly fine, provided it doesn't lead to reprehensible scumbag behavior. ..In my opinion.
That's what I've said since the last few patches; Now when the core systems have been more or less come together, the overarching system has been developing a lot quicker. It's looking real good, it seems like they've finally gotten the gameplay loops in order.
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Comandr
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I don't know what I want to do at this point. I've always fancied myself a sort of solo miner/hauler, but now I'm sort of interested in crafting. When I saw the space stations, I legit sort of wondered "how long would it take to solo build one of these?" Imagine the time needed to get a pioneer, build a supply bay, build a space station, attach a dry dock, and then build your own idris. Haha. Sounds kind of fun. I'd build it right on top of arccorp or something cuz I'm not trying to fuck with all that lawless shit.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Only caught bits of day 2 so was there a Star Citizen 1.0 showcase trailer thing similar to what they did last year?
Buggy Loop
Member
Not really, there were tidbits from each explanations, but not stitched together. I'm sure someone will make a resume of it all and post on youtube soon.
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Buggy Loop
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Lord Panda
, Resume of day 1 & 2 in 20 mins.
All the videos that pertain to the 1.0 Org end game, building a station in space, 15 mins of it.
Didn't think I would see this in a space game, ever.
salva
Member
Skimmed through some of the day 2 live stream, some fucking cool looking shit! 5x systems seems small as to what was "promised" during the backing, but we all know what people think of 1000+ barren systems (aka Starfield).
I love Starfield, but god dayum is the star citizen PU on a whole another level.
I just was Squadron 42 first!
I love Starfield, but god dayum is the star citizen PU on a whole another level.
I just was Squadron 42 first!
SF Kosmo
Al Jazeera Special Reporter
Ok, I am a pretty big Star Citizen skeptic but the Squadron 42 presentation has me feeling more positive than negative.
I have always been more bullish about Squadron 42 than Star Citizen as a whole, in the sense that I think it might actually reach completion, but I also expected it would get it's scope slashed down as pressure mounts to release something.
It doesn't seem like that's the case, they're claiming 40 hour campaign, that they're feature complete, and they are giving a realistic launch time frame. I get good Wing Commander vibes from game and story. Honestly, if tthe game they are describing and showing is what hits shelves in 2026, I'm in.
I have always been more bullish about Squadron 42 than Star Citizen as a whole, in the sense that I think it might actually reach completion, but I also expected it would get it's scope slashed down as pressure mounts to release something.
It doesn't seem like that's the case, they're claiming 40 hour campaign, that they're feature complete, and they are giving a realistic launch time frame. I get good Wing Commander vibes from game and story. Honestly, if tthe game they are describing and showing is what hits shelves in 2026, I'm in.
Buggy Loop
Member
Even when they'll expand beyond 5 systems, I don't think going for derp numbers for sake of easily generating systems with AI and procedural tech is the way forward. Too many systems and orgs will spread out. If its so big that orgs are easily doing their own things in a corner of the universe without anyone knowing about it (much like EVE online), then the stress of building mega structures and having to fight for shield tech just goes out the window, there would be sometimes some big battles, but not a constant threat. It will also depend on how many players jump in. Scaling for 20k players, or 100k players, or beyond, AND if they retain the userbase which is another matter entirely, will determine the number of systems to keep it interesting and not too spread out.
I think 100 systems would basically kill the MMO. It becomes so massive at that stage that it means its a single player game. Elite dangerous forces players to eventually return to civilization because stations and tech are there, not in the outer rims, but if you can build a massive station with everything you need to craft and build armor / guns / ships and sell to the civilized worlds by cargo hauling, then there's no reason to get out of your cave and risk a war.
It'll be interesting to see how they'll approach this problem.
Buggy Loop
Member
Someone spotted a scene from SQ42 trailer with a 2015 video
2015 :
2024 :
In motion its even more drastic. The face animation of that dude on the right is spot-on.
The 2015 one looks like Starefield
2015 :
2024 :
In motion its even more drastic. The face animation of that dude on the right is spot-on.
The 2015 one looks like Starefield
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Buggy Loop
Member
The lyrics are in Xi'an apparently, the alien race. Nice wink that the solar system is next to their space. Would be cool to see them in-game too.
Pedro Macedo Camacho is such a good composer. This game has legit one of the best OST.
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