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Classical music riots

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Forkball

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Something amusing I learned about. There have been actual riots during classical music concerts, and the phenomenon has happened enough times to get its own Wikipedia page. Some highlights.

Stravinsky's The Rite of Spring
Listen to some of it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjX3oAwv_Fs

The premiere involved one of the most famous classical music riots in history. The intensely rhythmic score and primitive scenario shocked audiences more accustomed to the demure conventions of classical ballet. Vaslav Nijinsky's choreography was a radical departure from classical ballet. Stravinsky would later write in his autobiography of the process of working with Nijinsky on the choreography, stating that "the poor boy knew nothing of music" and that Nijinsky "had been saddled with a task beyond his capacity."[4] While Stravinsky praised Nijinsky's amazing dance talent, he was frustrated working with him on choreography.

This frustration was reciprocated by Nijinsky with regard to Stravinsky's patronizing attitude: "...so much time is wasted as Stravinsky thinks he is the only one who knows anything about music. In working with me he explains the value of the black notes, the white notes, of quavers and semiquavers, as though I had never studied music at all... I wish he would talk more about his music for Sacre, and not give a lecture on the beginning theory of music."[5]

The complex music and violent dance steps depicting fertility rites first drew catcalls and whistles from the crowd. At the start, the audience began to boo loudly. There were loud arguments in the audience between supporters and opponents of the work. These were soon followed by shouts and fistfights in the aisles. The unrest in the audience eventually degenerated into a riot. The Paris police arrived by intermission, but they restored only limited order. Chaos reigned for the remainder of the performance.[6] Fellow composer Camille Saint-Saëns famously stormed out of the première allegedly infuriated over the misuse of the bassoon in the ballet's opening bars (though Stravinsky later said "I do not know who invented the story that he was present at, but soon walked out of, the premiere."[7]) .

Stravinsky ran backstage, where Diaghilev was turning the lights on and off in an attempt to try to calm the audience. Nijinsky stood on a chair, leaned out (far enough that Stravinsky had to grab his coat-tail), and shouted counts to the dancers, who were unable to hear the orchestra (this was challenging because Russian numbers above ten are polysyllabic, such as eighteen: vosemnadsat vs. seventeen: semnadsat).[8]

Daniel Auber - La Muette de Portici
Listen to some of it here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my8ypJd-URA

Catholic partisans watched with excitement the unfolding of the July Revolution in France, details of which were swiftly reported in the newspapers. On 25 August 1830, at the Théâtre Royal de la Monnaie in Brussels, an uprising followed a special performance (in honor of William I's birthday) of Daniel Auber's La Muette de Portici (The Mute Girl of Portici), a sentimental and patriotic opera suited to fire National Romanticism, for it was set against Masaniello's uprising against the Spanish masters of Naples in the 17th century. The duet, "Amour sacré de la patrie", (Sacred love of Fatherland) with Adolphe Nourrit in the tenor role, engendered a riot that became the spark for the Belgian Revolution. The crowd poured into the streets after the performance, shouting patriotic slogans, and swiftly took possession of government buildings. The coming days saw an explosion of the desperate and exasperated proletariat of Brussels.

Steve Reich's Four Organs

A 1973 performance of Four Organs at Carnegie Hall in New York City nearly caused a riot, with "yells for the music to stop, mixed with applause to hasten the end of the piece."[5] One of the performers, Michael Tilson Thomas, recalls: "One woman walked down the aisle and repeatedly banged her head on the front of the stage, wailing 'Stop, stop, I confess.'"

Erik Satie's Parade

The premiere of the ballet resulted in a number of scandals, including a classical music riot. According to the painter Gabriel Fournier, one of the most memorable scandals was an altercation between Cocteau, Satie, and music critic Jean Poueigh, who gave Parade an unfavorable review. Satie had written a postcard to the critic which read, "Monsieur et cher ami - vous êtes un cul, un cul sans musique! Signé Erik Satie" ("Sir and Dear Friend, You are not only an arse, but an arse without music. Signed, Erik Satie."). The critic sued Satie, and at the trial Cocteau was arrested and beaten by police for repeatedly yelling "arse" in the courtroom. Satie was given a sentence of eight days in jail.

Pretty amusing that an art form we equate with civility and sophistication can have such a brutish following.

So uh... discuss other music riots you might have seen or been a part of.
 
I remember reading about some of Liszt's concerts having noblewomen fighting over his handkerchiefs he'd toss; you'd have seen countesses and baronesses hairpulling and kicking each other for souveniers.
 

Tarazet

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Not surprised at all to hear the Steve Reich story. Minimalism is the dumbest and most pretentious shit ever. The Emperor's New Clothes.

At Stalin's funeral, Sviatoslav Richter was called in to play. He chose the Fugue in G-sharp minor from Bach's Well-Tempered Klavier, Book II, which in his hands is extraordinarily long and dreary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-mEGUEP4O4#t=3m43s

Apparently he played only Bach, because Stalin hated Bach. One of his henchmen shouted out during the performance, "who wrote this shit?" The audience hissed and the police tore him away from the piano..
 

ntropy

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Tarazet said:
Not surprised at all to hear the Steve Reich story. Minimalism is the dumbest and most pretentious shit ever. The Emperor's New Clothes.

At Stalin's funeral, Sviatoslav Richter was called in to play. He chose the Fugue in G-sharp minor from Bach's Well-Tempered Klavier, Book II, which in his hands is extraordinarily long and dreary:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j-mEGUEP4O4#t=3m43s

Apparently he played only Bach, because Stalin hated Bach. One of his henchmen shouted out during the performance, "who wrote this shit?" The audience hissed and the police tore him away from the piano..
also, the pedal did not work on the piano, so he stuffed a score in the mechanism to somehow fix it. this all according to Richter.
 
I'm a Teaching Assistant at a university and I teach music history to undergrads. The rite of spring story is one of my favorite days teaching, especially since it is near the beginning of our 20th century music section where composers start to really question "what makes music music?"
 

Tarazet

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Affeinvasion said:
I'm a Teaching Assistant at a university and I teach music history to undergrads. The rite of spring story is one of my favorite days teaching, especially since it is near the beginning of our 20th century music section where composers start to really question "what makes music music?"

Then you fast forward just a few decades and Walt Disney is using the piece in Fantasia. Classical composers have really fallen off a cliff in terms of cultural importance since then sadly. Ask the average person to name a living classical composer and they'll look at you like you're from Mars.
 
Tarazet said:
Then you fast forward just a few decades and Walt Disney is using the piece in Fantasia. Classical composers have really fallen off a cliff in terms of cultural importance since then sadly. Ask the average person to name a living classical composer and they'll look at you like you're from Mars.

Stravinsky hated that Rite of Spring was in Fantasia though. After one performance of the work that he especially disliked, he called it, "duller than Disney's Dinosaurs."

"New Music" as we generally call it has a much greater niche following mostly because the "greats" have been canonized as such. This was already the case around Wagner's time when he wrote an essay about how much Beethoven would have liked his music...also notably Mahler's music (which is generally well-regarded nowadays) was hated at the time (not just due to anti-semitism) because he was a well known conductor and public audiences just wanted to hear the classics. It really started when the shift from patronage to public concerts began.

Basically it takes a looong time nowadays to be considered part of the canon in Classical music. People who listen to classical music know who John Adams, John Cage, and Phillip Glass are. People who don't listen to classical music (98% of my students) haven't heard of anyone other than Bach, Beethoven, and Mozart.
 

DiscoJer

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Well, yeah, "Classical" music was pretty much just like Jazz and various types of Rock music were in the day. All the "corrupting the youth" and all that.

And they had rock stars, like Paganini.

(Pretty sad commentary these days, when parents pretty much just laugh at modern musicians, rather be terrified or shocked. This is the lamest generation ever...)
 
Most composers (especially early ones) lived in relative obscurity though. It wasn't until concerts where performers had to sell their tickets to make a livlihood that you start to see all the rockstar stuff. Opera has always been that way though. Castrati were so hot back then, which I suppose is kind of ironic. Watch the movie Farinelli.

My favorite anti-riot story involves Verdi though. After the premiere of (I believe) Otello, the audience gave him something like 7 curtain calls, then afterward were still so excited that they unhitched the horses of his carriage waiting outside and pulled it back to his house by themselves, where they then serenaded him until dawn with his arias. That's Beatlemania levels of insanity right there.
 

Tarazet

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Affeinvasion said:
Most composers (especially early ones) lived in relative obscurity though. It wasn't until concerts where performers had to sell their tickets to make a livlihood that you start to see all the rockstar stuff. Opera has always been that way though. Castrati were so hot back then, which I suppose is kind of ironic. Watch the movie Farinelli.

The other difference now is that you don't see a lot of pianist-composers anymore - which is what Mozart, Beethoven, Schubert, Mendelssohn, Chopin, Liszt, Brahms, Bartok, Debussy, Rachmaninoff, and Shostakovich (my avatar) all were. Marc-Andre Hamelin composes, and probably he'll compose better and better as the years go on, but he's one anomaly among a sea of pianists who don't even bother. Historically, it's been keyboard players pushing the envelope.
 

aceface

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Affeinvasion said:
I'm a Teaching Assistant at a university and I teach music history to undergrads. The rite of spring story is one of my favorite days teaching, especially since it is near the beginning of our 20th century music section where composers start to really question "what makes music music?"

Well done sir. Good on ya.
 
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