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CNN Money - PS3 $700 ?
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Guy LeDouche
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I think it will be a PSP-esque Value Pack for $349 or $399. Ex. - Sony can throw in $10 worth of promos and make the retail price $349 (just an example, don't get your panties in a bunch) and it will give the impression that the PS3 is $300, plus extra stuff. It's an extra $40 per unit, which will really help the bottom line.
Guy LeDouche
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Unlike PS2 (and X360 even), the disc drive, the Blu-Ray disc format (and royalties) and the CPU are going to be used in many more products than just the PS3, so the per-console burden to recoup losses is alot less. MS has only the X360 to recoup investment losses of the custom CPU and GPU. Combined with conservative estimates of 100 million PS3s sold by the end of the generation and Sony should realistically have plenty of wiggle room on the price.White Man said:
Doc Holliday
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I really dont think the ps2 will be $400 or more. If it is the Revolution will take over japan...easily. Sony would really surprise me if this thing is that pricey.
Robobandit
Member
$799.99
blu-ray + omfg awesome game machine = amazing deal? lol amirite? :lol
seriously, I think they would be foolish not to match the 360's initial price. (especially since the 360 will probably see a price drop by the time the ps3 launches in NA)
blu-ray + omfg awesome game machine = amazing deal? lol amirite? :lol
seriously, I think they would be foolish not to match the 360's initial price. (especially since the 360 will probably see a price drop by the time the ps3 launches in NA)
Cerebral Palsy
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I seriously doubt Sony is going to charge the same price range for both the PSP and PS3. The PSP will either drop in price a lot, or they will charge a premium for the PS3. My guess is the latter.
BlackSalad
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399 junior bacon cheeseburgers
Guy LeDouche said:
Please provide some of what you have been smoking. Although your points are good. Look closer. These royalties will not hit SCE's bottom line, but Sony Corp's bottom line. They can't afford to have their shareholders see SCE operate in the Red, period. SCE has been the only thing making Sony's annual reports look reasonable. The cell won't have mass market appeal outside of the PS3 in 2006, and sales trends of the PS2 and PSP recently don't look to be enough to offset the potential losses. The PS3 must be expensive, or shareholders will shit their collective pants.
Musashi Wins!
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I can't believe people think it would be $500. There will be deep feature cuts before that happens. There is just no way they would throw their marketshare to their competitors like that. It will be a new system, and I'm sure you'll see auctions for thousands, etc. but that doesn't reflect prices that drive a sustainable price point. Even in the short term. People a lot less anal than gaf about specs or HDformats will look at the 360 or maybe even the Revolution and laugh as they purchase them.
Sony might not be able to offer a mint for a song at this point, but believe me the bigger risk for them would be to lose the signficance of the Playstation product.
Sony might not be able to offer a mint for a song at this point, but believe me the bigger risk for them would be to lose the signficance of the Playstation product.
Sony will be taking one HUMONGOUS hit if they sell for 400 or under.
I LOVE how people just scream that 400 will be the price since the 360 (non tard) was 400.
There is no evidence to support that.
The only evidence we have says that it's going to be fucking expensive.
And Sony's got manufacturing problems ahead (yes, they will have problems making the thing).
Sony can either have a fucking fumble of a launch with buggy hardware that dies quickly, limited numbers, and BUNDLES BUNDLES BUNDLES, for under 500, or they can have a good launch, with supply, and reliable hardware for 500 - 600.
Of course, we all know Sony always provides quality, reliable hardware at launch in ample quantity. :lol
There is no way in hell I'll buy a PS3 at launch, regardless of price. I KNOW that shit is going to have bugs. Same reason I didn't buy a 360. Nintendo, on the other hand, puts out reliable shit at launch.
Though my first GameCube, a launch day one, was buggered and would freeze when playing SSB:M, exchanged it for a different oen and all was well. Sony and MS on the otherhand basically say "FUCK YOU" when their hardware fails, and they expect you to buy a new one. The stores will basically say "FUCK YOU" as well if shit is in short supply.
So, what evidence is there for a $400 PS3?
I LOVE how people just scream that 400 will be the price since the 360 (non tard) was 400.
There is no evidence to support that.
The only evidence we have says that it's going to be fucking expensive.
And Sony's got manufacturing problems ahead (yes, they will have problems making the thing).
Sony can either have a fucking fumble of a launch with buggy hardware that dies quickly, limited numbers, and BUNDLES BUNDLES BUNDLES, for under 500, or they can have a good launch, with supply, and reliable hardware for 500 - 600.
Of course, we all know Sony always provides quality, reliable hardware at launch in ample quantity. :lol
There is no way in hell I'll buy a PS3 at launch, regardless of price. I KNOW that shit is going to have bugs. Same reason I didn't buy a 360. Nintendo, on the other hand, puts out reliable shit at launch.
Though my first GameCube, a launch day one, was buggered and would freeze when playing SSB:M, exchanged it for a different oen and all was well. Sony and MS on the otherhand basically say "FUCK YOU" when their hardware fails, and they expect you to buy a new one. The stores will basically say "FUCK YOU" as well if shit is in short supply.
So, what evidence is there for a $400 PS3?
Guy LeDouche
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I'm not sure why this matters, Sony is Sony. Shareholders own stock in Sony Corp, not SCEI. Sony Corp. as a whole has made an investment in Blu-Ray and Cell and not just SCEI will be using them. Blu-Ray will be used by SCEI, the PC division and the Movies division. Cell will be used in PS3, PCs, TVs, etc.snatches said:
Toshiba, or Samsung or some major TV manufacturer outside of Sony (forget who exactly) announced at CES that all their TVs produced starting in 2006 will have a form of Cell inside.snatches said:
no reason for it to cost more than Xbox core with no HDD, or Xbox premium with a HDD. Any R&D will be eaten up, so you're just looking at component costs
The chips are no more than the Xbox ones. Same amount of memory, a big CPU and a graphics chip. And Sony are fabbing them so no reason for them to cost any more (might even be cheaper).
bluray drive is just a DVD with a different coloured laser.
bluetooth - well Sony are one of the largest users of Bluetooth in Sony ericsson handsets, so they probably have a good deal with a supplier, or make their own.
$400.
The chips are no more than the Xbox ones. Same amount of memory, a big CPU and a graphics chip. And Sony are fabbing them so no reason for them to cost any more (might even be cheaper).
bluray drive is just a DVD with a different coloured laser.
bluetooth - well Sony are one of the largest users of Bluetooth in Sony ericsson handsets, so they probably have a good deal with a supplier, or make their own.
$400.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
The article states the PS3 will have a hard drive. WTF
People still overestimating the cost of Playstation 3. Blu Ray Drive prices will fall nicely too as production builds up. Playstation 3 video is handled entirely in software via Cell and RSX.
Cell is already going to be in all 2006 Toshiba TVs.
I'm going to go one further with my next prediction. I will predict the priceline of the entire Playstation family by Fall 2006 when PS3 launches.
PS2 - $99
PSP- $199
PS3 - $299
Cell is already going to be in all 2006 Toshiba TVs.
I'm going to go one further with my next prediction. I will predict the priceline of the entire Playstation family by Fall 2006 when PS3 launches.
PS2 - $99
PSP- $199
PS3 - $299
Cerebral Palsy
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I will eat my Xbox 360 if the PS3 is $299. MrBoob, you are full of it!
Azelover
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White Man said:
Cell and Blu Ray are heavily rested on top of PS3's back. Their financial state is fragile but if Blu Ray and Cell succeed they will make a lot more money so I think they intend to take a major loss on PS3 anyway and take the risk. But for me the question is how much money they could sacrifice even at risk. I haven't seen a realistic and reliable estimate of how much it costs to manufacture a Blu Ray drive(just the reader), but if it's just $100 per unit Sony won't have a problem pricing the whole system at $500 at a loss.
mrklaw said:
:lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
That makes it easy, huh?
DVD = 650 nm wavelength, with a numerical aperture of .6, and a .6 mm thick protective coating on the disc.
Blu-Ray = 405 nm wavelength, with a numerical aperture of .85, and a .1 mm thick protective coating on the disc.
Not to mention Blu-Ray lasers also have to read DVDs and CDs. Oh, and they have totally different power requirements. Oh, and there's the whole issue of being able to read 8 layers (Yes, Blu-Ray is planned to hit 8 layers, with a capicty of about 200 GB)
Oh, and Blu-Ray discs will also come in different densities per layer, 23.33 GB, 25 GB, 26.66 GB if I recall correctly.
If you think all you have to do is change the color of the laser, then I've got a few DVD drives I've modified to be Blu-Ray drives with this here blue marker.
DenogginizerOS
BenjaminBirdie's Thomas Jefferson
$399.99. No less.
Xenon
Member
psycho_snake said:
Most people won't be buying a PS3 at launch. Just the early adopters. A group that has proven time and time again that they are willing to pay to play.
People thought $250 was way too much for a portable. Sony had no problem selling the PSP at launch.
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And, this was going into a new market for them that was already dominated by a competitor. If they had the balls to do that, what makes you think they wouldn't try to raise the price in a market they have totally dominated?
Seeing how people talk about Sony's current financial state, anything under $400 would take them forever to turn into profit. However, people thought the PSP was gonna be like $400, so I guess $399 for the PS3 could be a possibilty. :shrugs:
You know how the Xbox came out with the name 360? Simply because of public perception, they didn't want to be seen as "less than" the PS3.
I think the same idea will be with the PS3 pricing. Sony has projected this idea that the PS3 will be FAR superior, so it wouldn't make sense to price it at 399. The same price as the "inferior" Xbox. They will price it at 499 or maybe 549. I think they are cocky enough to believe 20-30 percent of thier current base will pay for it.
I think the same idea will be with the PS3 pricing. Sony has projected this idea that the PS3 will be FAR superior, so it wouldn't make sense to price it at 399. The same price as the "inferior" Xbox. They will price it at 499 or maybe 549. I think they are cocky enough to believe 20-30 percent of thier current base will pay for it.
Nightbringer
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499 USD.
The reason is that when Playstation3 will appear the HD Players (BluRay and HD-DVD) will have their low price models around the 500-600 USD.
The reason is that when Playstation3 will appear the HD Players (BluRay and HD-DVD) will have their low price models around the 500-600 USD.
heavy liquid
Member
I'm guessing $399 or $450.
Any higher, and they'll have trouble for the reasons Musashi Wins! pointed out.
Any higher, and they'll have trouble for the reasons Musashi Wins! pointed out.