CNN: The Android that could crush the iPhone

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Reason why I'll never go to an iPhone it's because I feel like they never change.

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Rumor is that there is an UI overhaul coming for the iOS7. Let us see.

HTC One on the other hand is pure sex. My only concern is with the camera. An update was rumored to be in the works which would improve the quality dramatically but not sure how far it is through.
 
Interesting. It's about time to upgrade for me, and my current phone is an HTC Desire, and i've been super happy with it. Was gonna go with a samsung but... ah. we'll see.
 
Is there a way to hard reset the One?

Every once in a while I've had to pop the battery out of my Epic after it goes unresponsive.

I have some reservations about a phone where I can't pop out the battery if needed for a timely reset.

Those days are long gone. But yeah you can still hard reset them, hold the power button for 30s.
 
What's funny is that all these damn phones are actually exactly the same, and all people do is bitch and moan comparing useless, superficial and/or unnecessary features against one another when 98% of us all just use the same 7 features on the phone.
 
Has Android figured out how to handle group texts yet?

I'm so thrilled I made the switch from Android to iOS after mucking through two shoddy Android products in a row as an early adopter. Broken, unintuitive piece of shovelware.

There is virtually no reason to pick Android over iPhones in the U.S., particularly given the cascading networking effect of almost everyone in your social network owning an iPhone.
 
What's funny is that all these damn phones are actually exactly the same, and all people do is bitch and moan comparing useless, superficial and/or unnecessary features against one another when 98% of us all just use the same 7 features on the phone.

Exactly. Like cars. Their only useful feature is to quickly go from one location to another. Damn these idiots on the internet.
 
What's funny is that all these damn phones are actually exactly the same, and all people do is bitch and moan comparing useless, superficial and/or unnecessary features against one another when 98% of us all just use the same 7 features on the phone.

This is a massive exaggeration, but I do tend to agree that fighting over which OS is better is a zero sum game. We have both Android and iOS devices in my house; HTC One X, iPhone 5, Nexus 7 and iPad. Both OS have room for improvement, and the competition between them has meant that they've both improved a great deal already.

Competition is good, reductive arguments between fanboys are bad.

iOS isn't stale. This is coming from an iPhone 5 owner. SCIENCE!

... it's a little stale :P

I think they need to speed up multitasking and sharing between apps mostly. Also the UI is looking a bit too Windows XP for my tastes these days.
 
It's still Android.

Yup.

"The One runs Android Jelly Bean, Google's (GOOG, Fortune 500) latest, but HTC's own software, dubbed Sense 5.0, operates on top. It features a new type of home screen, Blinkfeed, that draws on content from social feeds like Facebook and Twitter. Some people love it, some people don't."

Pass
 
It's as if the reviews said the phone was terrible. Relax folks. It's a good device that won't outsell the iphone. Biggest threat is to Samsung in term of eating away at galaxy S mindshare.
 
As someone who is considering switching to Android for the first time, I've looked into people complaining about various skins, including Sense 5 and the only conclusion I can come away with comparing Sense 5 to stock Android is, that's it? It's hardly the night and day difference that people seem to make it out to be. Is there something I'm missing on why it's so drastically worse? I'd like to know what I'm missing from my research.

You aren't missing anything. It used to be a big difference. But it isn't anymore. In a lot of ways the custom software adds functionality that power users are waiting for Google to add to Vanilla Android. I'm slowly shifting away from buying only Nexus devices.
 
The salt in this thread is raising my blood pressure.

Android has surpassed ios as apple has failed to further innovate, and if you're into any customization of your phones features and ui with the right taste it's More aesthetically pleasing

Owned every iPhone through 4 before hopping off due to the stale os and small real estate of the screen and Def copping the one ASAP
 
And Android is a little TOO open. All these shitty interfaces like TouchWiz and Sense just annoy the shit out of me. Thank god for Nexus phones, they're the only reason I ever stuck around a little longer. Still wouldn't trade my iPhone for one until battery life and stability of these Android phones improve.
 
And Android is a little TOO open. All these shitty interfaces like TouchWiz and Sense just annoy the shit out of me. Thank god for Nexus phones, they're the only reason I ever stuck around a little longer. Still wouldn't trade my iPhone for one until battery life and stability of these Android phones improve.

That's the good thing about options. You can choosea pphone with an overlay such as touchwiz or you can go the vanilla route. Options are a good thing for most people.

As far as battery life goes, iphone suffers from the same problems.
 
I have a better headline for CNN, "Death of the iPhone: At last, our prayers have been answered and our long national nightmare is finally coming to an end."
 
Battery life on my s2 was never an issue....

This battery life fiasco is so overblown and seems to be the go to complaint of iPhone users/lovers

I've used android/iOS/windows and I feel that ios is trailing the other ...that google now is amazing
 
Time for me to chime into this debate. I've said it before but I work for a major mobile network in London.

There is one very big and important reason why the HTC One can NEVER crush the iPhone.

STOCK!!

HTC aren't the big major corporation that is Apple.

Apple iPhone launch? Ample stock, all SKU's, all colour variants.

HTC One launch a few weeks ago? 4 units total. And no more units for two weeks. Then drip fed units over the next few weeks.

HTC are no match to Apple's manufacturing and distribution. Specifically where I work, the iPhone is 40% of our phone business. The iPad is 100% of our tablet business.
 
I'm still hanging on to my Galaxy S2. I'm waiting to see the S4 launch and the Nexus 5 before I make a final decision on where I go, but the One has me almost ready to upgrade now. It just sounds like a near perfect phone.
 
I would love for HTC to come storming back. The last few years of theirs were very humdrum, IMO. This phone looks sublime.

I'm a S3 owner, trying to hold out for the Note 3, but I'd definitely try out this Facebook UI.

Also, I second the Battery usage complaints, although ALL OSes are guilty (aside the old BlackBerry <3). the next Android OS release should definitely have a REAL low power mode that decreases CPU speed and cuts functionality/apps to the most basic dumbphone level (Possibly using a savestate feature when full functionality is restored when near a charger). I would've thought a feature like that would be common sense but I guess not.
 
Yeah claims that battery life on an iPhone are better are greatly exaggerated. Not saying any Androids I've used are spectacular but holy shit iOS5+ burns through the juice. They lasted a lot longer when they didn't have very good background tasking, now it's all much of a muchness in my experience.
 
And Android is a little TOO open. All these shitty interfaces like TouchWiz and Sense just annoy the shit out of me. Thank god for Nexus phones, they're the only reason I ever stuck around a little longer. Still wouldn't trade my iPhone for one until battery life and stability of these Android phones improve.

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The high quality industrial design... the same grey and black almost every phone is available in (with an actual metal finish) unless you like your shit in some pink or blue candy coat?

C'mon son. Ain't even tryin with this. They even have a solid ass black version of the phone which disguises the speaker holes and removes pretty much all of your complaints right there.

Ain't.

Even.

Tryin.

I haven't seen a single picture of that all black phone, but good on them, makes it less ugly but still not sexy at all and no most phone I've seen don't have two different color tones on the very front of the phone. But hey at least it's less ugly then the Galaxy line.
 
As someone who is considering switching to Android for the first time, I've looked into people complaining about various skins, including Sense 5 and the only conclusion I can come away with comparing Sense 5 to stock Android is, that's it? It's hardly the night and day difference that people seem to make it out to be. Is there something I'm missing on why it's so drastically worse? I'd like to know what I'm missing from my research

Essentially, multi-tasking on Sense is completely broken by design. It's a well known issue that HTC doesn't consider a problem.
 
possibly the model that is finally better than an iPhone.

WTF is this writer talking about? There have been multiple Android phones that were better than the best iPhone model available at that point in time. Right now there are several Androids that are better than the iPhone 5.
 
Essentially, multi-tasking on Sense is completely broken by design. It's a well known issue that HTC doesn't consider a problem.
I think that was fixed for sense 5. I'd actually prefer if google jacked the sense 5 multitasking for stock (the way it looks I mean). Better to see a lot of screens than only 3-4 or whatever it is on stock. But yeah on Sense 4 the multitasking was stupid in both layout and functionality, totally broken. Pretty sure it's fixed now. At least I haven't read otherwise.

It's kind of hilarious how bad multitasking looked on sense 4 (on the right):

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I think that was fixed for sense 5. I'd actually prefer if google jacked the sense 5 multitasking for stock (the way it looks I mean). Better to see a lot of screens than only 3-4 or whatever it is on stock. But yeah on Sense 4 the multitasking was stupid in both layout and functionality, totally broken. Pretty sure it's fixed now. At least I haven't read otherwise.

It's kind of hilarious how bad multitasking looked on sense 4 (on the right):

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iirc i read that they only display the last 9 apps and it's not a scrollable list.
 
I think that was fixed for sense 5. I'd actually prefer if google jacked the sense 5 multitasking for stock (the way it looks I mean). Better to see a lot of screens than only 3-4 or whatever it is on stock. But yeah on Sense 4 the multitasking was stupid in both layout and functionality, totally broken. Pretty sure it's fixed now. At least I haven't read otherwise.

It's kind of hilarious how bad multitasking looked on sense 4 (on the right):

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To be honest I don't mind the look of it but it truly pisses me off that half the time when I try to swipe the list left and right it thinks I want the tile to rotate. Because nobody in the history of multitasking has ever actually wanted that.
 
That's the good thing about options. You can choosea pphone with an overlay such as touchwiz or you can go the vanilla route. Options are a good thing for most people.

As far as battery life goes, iphone suffers from the same problems.
Not in my experience. I've had numerous Android phones (looking at my post history will tell you I was a hardcore Android fan) but I got an iPhone 4 and I love the battery life. I use my phone more frequently and still have at least 40% left at the end of the day. My buddy has an S3 and his phone dies so quickly it isn't even funny.

I'm sticking with iOS for now

What is this telling me? That on average the iPhone lasts a bit longer? Not trying to sound like a dick (apologies if I do), but I don't see a point.
 
Not in my experience. I've had numerous Android phones (looking at my post history will tell you I was a hardcore Android fan) but I got an iPhone 4 and I love the battery life. I use my phone more frequently and still have at least 40% left at the end of the day. My buddy has an S3 and his phone dies so quickly it isn't even funny.

I'm sticking with iOS for now


What is this telling me? That on average the iPhone lasts a bit longer? Not trying to sound like a dick (apologies if I do), but I don't see a point.


It's telling you that the battery life on the One is actually a bit better in those three categories than the iPhone 5 but slightly worse in standby time and the iPhone 5 is considered to have very good battery life.
 
I asked this in the other One thread but didn't get much of a response.

I'm wondering how easy it is to wipe out the Android "skins" like Sense and just use the Google-made default. Right now I have an iPhone but I'm seriously considering switching to an Android, but this is holding me back.
 
What is this telling me? That on average the iPhone lasts a bit longer? Not trying to sound like a dick (apologies if I do), but I don't see a point.

I'm...... really not sure how those images are not completely self explanatory. Like.... seriously.

I asked this in the other One thread but didn't get much of a response.

I'm wondering how easy it is to wipe out the Android "skins" like Sense and just use the Google-made default. Right now I have an iPhone but I'm seriously considering switching to an Android, but this is holding me back.

You cannot 'wipe them out'. You can use a launcher though that will change everything to look like stock android.

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Well, I suppose you can wipe it out and replace it with CM Mod which is pretty much stock Android, but that requires rooting. Its not difficult to do, but you would want to set aside 30 minutes to root and install CM. If you want a phone that comes with stock Android from the start though, grab a Nexus 4.
 
Where's the lte talk time comparison?
Not that I really care though just wondering why it's 3G over LTE :p

All existing cell phones use the 3G network for voice calls. Voice Over LTE is supposedly coming late this year or early 2014 but right now when you make a phone call on an LTE device, you're using the legacy 3G network.
 
Where's the lte talk time comparison?
Not that I really care though just wondering why it's 3G over LTE :p

I dunno really. Do you mean Voice over LTE? Not sure I have ever seen anyone bench that. I don't think VoLTE is live on any carriers yet. But here is Anandtechs battery life comparison for talk time:

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My subjective impressions using the HTC One as my personal device are that battery life is quite good, and moreover that the DNA battery life also was better than some other phones people had no problems with in 2012. I have yet to have an issue making it through an entire day on the HTC One, even when aggressively using the camera. If I knew I was going to be away from the charger for a long time, I did enable the power saver, which sets max CPU clock on the Snapdragon 600 to around 1.3 GHz in addition to lowering brightness a little bit, and a few other things as shown in the previous screenshot. In practice I really don&#8217;t notice much of a performance difference with the power saver box checked unless I&#8217;m really looking for it, but this probably dumps the SoC into a better voltage state to say nothing of how much lower active power is.

The One does very well. Nothing near the king (Maxx) but it does great.
 
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