captainmoonlight
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Colin Moriarty is leaving Kinda Funny Games.
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CrimsonSquall
Member
Colin will be missed. Maybe by no one on GAF besides me but oh well
People have been calling out Colin long before this week's tweets.
ShockingAlberto
Member
N'Gai got into the mock review business, which is fine. He should do what is best for his career.
It's just personally kind of a shame, because I enjoyed reading his work.
It's just personally kind of a shame, because I enjoyed reading his work.
J_ToSaveTheDay
Member
Colin, c'mon man, I hope you're still checking in on NeoGAF again as I've said time and time again -- I disagree with how you view and idealize social/political authority, but you produced really praiseworthy and interesting video content that I just started to get to know in the past month or so.
Why you gotta focus all that energy and talent into tearing down what other people are doing instead of just doing a good job at what you're good at?
Why you gotta actually participate in the same vicious cycle the rest of the world is slowly easing into like that?
You've found yourself all desperate and alone and probably a good degree of anger and frustration are driving you right now, but jeez, get some perspective on that. You are feeling that way because you kicked down the door of a bunch of people that have experienced that in their lives before and made a joke of it. REALIZE THAT, and maybe just shoulder up and move on. Please don't squander your talent on being another lashing, hate-riddled personality on the net. I get what puts people there, I get it, but now you get it, too. Don't push them further down, don't join their ranks, just fucking do what you can do that's actually productive. The Randian in you knows you have that potential, it's something I don't fucking get but I feel you were able to demonstrate in your video content. The world wants to kick itself right in the dick, and trust me, if you keep down this lash-out path, you will just kick yourself right in the dick like the rest of it. You'll know nothing but kicking yourself right in the dick, you'll form a habit of kicking yourself right in the dick, and all you will know is kicking yourself right in the dick, and you'll just keep blaming everyone else as you kick yourself right in the dick.
Buck up, buttercup. Shit just got real.
I really hope he reads this. Hope he's glancing on GAF to try and get fuel for whatever the hell this piss-rage sissy-fit is and sees that someone that should "hate" him desperately wants him to not "hate" back. :/
Why you gotta focus all that energy and talent into tearing down what other people are doing instead of just doing a good job at what you're good at?
Why you gotta actually participate in the same vicious cycle the rest of the world is slowly easing into like that?
You've found yourself all desperate and alone and probably a good degree of anger and frustration are driving you right now, but jeez, get some perspective on that. You are feeling that way because you kicked down the door of a bunch of people that have experienced that in their lives before and made a joke of it. REALIZE THAT, and maybe just shoulder up and move on. Please don't squander your talent on being another lashing, hate-riddled personality on the net. I get what puts people there, I get it, but now you get it, too. Don't push them further down, don't join their ranks, just fucking do what you can do that's actually productive. The Randian in you knows you have that potential, it's something I don't fucking get but I feel you were able to demonstrate in your video content. The world wants to kick itself right in the dick, and trust me, if you keep down this lash-out path, you will just kick yourself right in the dick like the rest of it. You'll know nothing but kicking yourself right in the dick, you'll form a habit of kicking yourself right in the dick, and all you will know is kicking yourself right in the dick, and you'll just keep blaming everyone else as you kick yourself right in the dick.
Buck up, buttercup. Shit just got real.
I really hope he reads this. Hope he's glancing on GAF to try and get fuel for whatever the hell this piss-rage sissy-fit is and sees that someone that should "hate" him desperately wants him to not "hate" back. :/
It's the hashtag, the day, and the pattern. Lame joke or not, it's the context behind the whole thing, and what came before it. None of the result exists without the other.
If he'd made this joke on a random Sunday, no one would have made a peep and construed that maybe his girlfriend wasn't home or something like that and groaned at its stupidity and moved on. On the day in question, though, and trying to get a rise out of that day in particular... There's no purpose behind it besides getting vitriol, and if that's what he enjoys getting and sought out that day, then I don't know what that says about his personality.
Obliterator
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I'm not defending Colin's Tweet. I think it was targeted and in extremely poor taste.
That said, anyone who thinks playing the loud wife stereotype is sexist, and the dumb bumbling dad who just can't do anything right, and by the way is often an alcoholic, is ok, is being wholly intellectually dishonest with themselves.
Colin's "joke" was indeed shitty. As it wasn't played for laughs and was instead a targeted controversy move to piss people off and stir up trouble
Colin has repeatedly shown himself to be incapable of being a decent human with basic social skills like etiquette, empathy, sympathy, or self awareness. It's not surprising that he cannot take any type of criticism directed at him without stooping to the lowest common denominator (it was a joke guys! anyone who doesn't think it's a joke is a humorless shit bag!). The industry will be better off without someone like him around. This is completely aside from the fact that he barely contributed to meaningful discussions in the past few months, but whatever. I feel bad for whoever has to work with him next because if your own friends can't tolerate your shit in a company you started together that says a lot about that person.
Glass Shark
Banned
I don't really want to defend Colin in any way, but yeah, that headline is shit.
All indication is going political.
ScientificPizza
Banned
Are you implying that criticising Colin's actions is punching down?
In the letter he says he wants to reconnect with "politics, history, [and] philosophy", so to me, it isn't reading as games. But that's just my take, no knowledge on things.
I've always thought dad jokes are jokes that are so straightforward they're the opposite of clever, or jokes that take things literally, or jokes that involve puns. Like "two guys walk into a bar, the third one ducks". Or "what do you call a fish with no eyes? A fssshhh"
Colin's "joke" was just the plain old offensive type. And from everything else he's said, he's made it pretty clear he's just an unsympathetic asshole.
Storm Chamber
Banned
I'm talking about the man himself.
Surely he had to know that shit wouldn't fly, right?
See, I always thought dad jokes were like when you'd say "I'm hungry" and someone else would say "Hi hungry I'm blank". Or they'd say "did you hear about the kidnapping; it's ok though they woke up".
GearDraxon
Member
Exactly. Groan-inducing plays on words, etc. Not "my sensibilities are stuck in the 50s HAR HAR."
Obliterator
Member
I'm making perfect sense. You are latching onto the idea any of this "Pro Colin" it's not and it's you projecting your dissatisfaction with Colin's stances onto my statements.
I'm just making a general point as when this whole controversy started I saw lots of people bringing up the whole "Colin is playing the loud women stereotype". He was, yes there is no wife, it was clearly however supposed to be a version of the "nagging woman" stereotype often seen in film and tv.
The thing that really made Colin's Tweet shitty was the timing of it, and nothing about it really being played for laughs like the usual "Loud Woman" is attempted to be used. Colin's was 100% used to stir up controversy.
I'm explaining the difference
This is a huge loss for the GoG show. Any episode without him was an immediate turn off. That fucking sucks. VG-related it is more manageable because KFG kinda sucked anyway, but still, loosing their strongest voice together with his knowledge about PS + view-driver Colin was Right, is still huge.
Overall I wish they could have found another solution, it bums me out.
Having said that.. another idiot fool who thought Twitter made him a fucking stand up comic or something. Serves him right.
Overall I wish they could have found another solution, it bums me out.
Having said that.. another idiot fool who thought Twitter made him a fucking stand up comic or something. Serves him right.
Glass Shark
Banned
The whole crux of this article is "Colin was needed because he's different." His politics being contrary to most of the games press doesn't automatically give them merit. And it's laughable to call his opinions "principled and well-informed" when he's known for making such specious statements as "women don't need people to fight for them" and "we don't need diversity for diversity's sake"
Admiral Woofington
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Word play and puns are dad joke territory. Like" let me be frank" "that's all right, I'll be dad"
facetheslayer92
Member
I imagine he'll be publishing opinion pieces, just not in games.
ShockingAlberto
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"Hey son, do you know why six is afraid of seven?"
"Why, dad?"
"Because seven is on its period and you can't trust anything that bleeds for seven days and doesn't die."
captainmoonlight
Neo Member
Is it, though?
It has a lot of lavish praise for Colin, uncomfortably so. Goes a bit hyperbolic toward the end, too. But if it's sincere, then hey, do you.
Yeah, and I don't really see how Colin's tweet would qualify.
ScientificPizza
Banned
Who gives a shit if Colin's joke was a dad joke, that doesn't remove it from being purposefully inflammatory and shitty
meanspartan
Member
Just as he was a gaming personality that talked a lot about politics, I think he will become a political personality who talks a lot about games lol.
GearDraxon
Member
That's the issue: it doesn't. It makes it seem less "bad" than if it's called what it is - a sexist joke made to be an ass, and then act outraged when it garners a response.
Does he need a safe space?
Also, if he is socially liberal and fiscally conservative, why does he ever only criticize liberals in many of his rants? He never criticizes conservatives except for Trump himself. He even said he voted for Kasich in the primary, and would vote for Trump over Hillary. While he hides behind the libertarian label, his true colors are pretty apparent.
Also, if he is socially liberal and fiscally conservative, why does he ever only criticize liberals in many of his rants? He never criticizes conservatives except for Trump himself. He even said he voted for Kasich in the primary, and would vote for Trump over Hillary. While he hides behind the libertarian label, his true colors are pretty apparent.
Obliterator
Member
This, is the 100% important part, without a doubt and the reason it was a pretty shitty thing to do.
Primethius
Banned
Don't agree. The way the article is trying to frame the discussion and the issues, yuck.
I'll never get people who saw most of his (political) arguments as anything more than sophomoric. Anything more than undergrad-level analysis. There are truly brilliant writers and thinkers out there. Heck, there are a handful of them in the Games Press, too.
Is the bar for conservative thinking in the games press really this low? Idk, man.
"Otherwise ubiquitous progressive politics of the mainstream games media"
What in the world?
I mean, how can someone who idolizes Ayn Rand be anything other than sophomoric?
Obliterator
Member
The answer to this is very likely yes. Gaming press, just like most of the arts, are dominated by more liberal thinking (which is mostly a good thing, though with some issues).
There aren't many prominently conservative people associated in gaming. In fact outside of Colin I can't really think of any outspoken conservative minded people. I think I heard Marty O' Donell is but that's behind the scenes. There aren't many that are open and in the public about it
Steeped in a Sea of Games
Member
Does he need a safe space?
Also, if he is socially liberal and fiscally conservative, why does he ever only criticize liberals in many of his rants? He never criticizes conservatives except for Trump himself. He even said he voted for Kasich in the primary, and would vote for Trump over Hillary. While he hides behind the libertarian label, his true colors are pretty apparent.
It's not a huge jump to go from, "fuck poor people, they're on their own" and "fuck everyone but me and those I personally care about". Libertarians in general tend to have very low levels of empathy.
reelbigtink
Member
Pretty much. As has been mentioned, the arts and most creative media are dominated by liberal ideals because liberal thinking encourages artistic expression.
I liken it to Dennis Miller's weird and unfunny brand of conservative comedy. He came off as a blowhard because his ideals contradicted what got him there in the first place.
ScientificPizza
Banned
Like this might seem malicious, but I'd really like to see him pursue political writing/punditry after this just as like a wake up call to the things he is largely ignorant about. He'll either get exposed very quickly and/or retreat to a far-right audience where his views won't at all be challenged
I know making alt-right jokes might seem easy right now, but it kind of is easy to see a foray into political coverage going that way
The point is that Colin is calling it a dad joke to make it sound innocuous. He's still not owning up to the fact that it was inflammatory and shitty. He's learned nothing and is continuing to dig his hole.
Good riddance.
I was never into Kinda Funny mainly because this Colin character always rubbed me the wrong way. He struck me as the typical smug pretentious asshole who can never ever admit when he's wrong or own up to any wrongdoing, kinda like Polygon's Arthur Gies. Except then I started reading about all of Colin's shit opinions, political and otherwise, and realized that he's even worse so I decided not to touch anything KF does with a ten foot pole.
Now that he's out of the picture I'm thinking I might give them another chance since the rest of them seem like pretty cool guys.
Plus I need something else to listen to whenever there's no EZA podcast or Frametrap anyway.
Now that he's out of the picture I'm thinking I might give them another chance since the rest of them seem like pretty cool guys.
Plus I need something else to listen to whenever there's no EZA podcast or Frametrap anyway.
Considering the state of conservative thinking in actual conservative press, it wouldn't be surprising.
I've kinda thought the same thing. He's largely avoided actual debate from people who have a basic understanding of political philosophy. He'd probably say it's because people are scared of him, but often I've found it's just because those types of people are boring and lazy debaters.
A real foray into political thinking would either shape him up or make him retreat back to easily praised punditry. And, real talk, if the positive reaction to Colin was Right videos where reading full quotes from people and reaching out for comment was worthy of praise as "good journalism", then I'm sure he'll find an audience that'll hold him up as "an intelligent thinker".
meanspartan
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That's...true?
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