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COMICS! |OT| October 2016. Capes, Crime, Bondage, and sometimes Overwatch.

Gwenpool #5 is what i'm skeptical about with this book, just a boring issue that also doesn't have Gurihiru. How many of these kinds of issues will the run consist of?

The next issue (which is the most recent) is also lacking the Gurihiru goodness, but man I loved this team-up. The second part is much stronger too.

In fact that team-up took second place in the ANAD voting! Luke and Danny were simply unstoppable.

Edit: flipping through it....yeah. Gwenpool 6 was fucking brilliant for many reasons.
 

mreddie

Member
Oh, any Hydra developments in Thunderbolts I should be aware of? I'm not gonna touch that book again but I'd love to know if something important is happening over there. Spoil me please!

I'm reading the other three, but I'm a bit behind in UA

Nothing really, they're beefing with almost every team until Bucky got caught by SHIELD.
 

Brian Fellows

Pete Carroll Owns Me
I hadn't watched the trailer yet. So I just did.

It definitely looks interesting.

I kind of got a kick out of the trailer, I think I'll give it a shot just for that. I reaaaally like the americans, that's an FX show right? Although, they had the responsibility of adapting the strain and....yea.

Well. Got my saturday evening sorted out. A large spicy chicken pizza and starting Luke Cage on netflix then. This way, if the show is no good, I have the pizza.

Yep.

It is good from what I have seen. Some day I am going to binge the whole thing.


Also I forgot about Fargo......I guess FX is doing okay after all.
 

Malyse

Member
In defense of the Young Justice comics. I think the goal with comics based on animated shows, particularly shows that are still airing, is to act as a stepping stone for kids to get into comics. I actually liked how the Young Justice comics in particular emulate the concept of one book being part of a larger story. I enjoyed going through them with my daughter, who was a fan of the show and a total comics novice.

That said, I don't think they were doing great work there, or anything that would stand the test of time (and they weren't trying to). I generally agree with Malyse's point that comic stories should stand on their own no matter what context they exist within. I would never recommend that comic, not even to fans of the show (unless they just wanted more serviceable stories with the same team), but especially not to people who aren't already into it.

But. It's not an unusual thing for comics to exist as fan service, effectively, with the intent of supporting the central body of work. Sometimes those stories do stand on their own, but they often don't. So I don't think this particular comic should be too heavily criticized for leveraging the medium for a relatively normal practice.

I'm always irritated with squandered potential. They could have had something superior but they went with the easiest route. Comics are a versatile medium and there are stories that are just too expensive/elaborate to tell in animated medium. Leverage that. Comics are by nature much easier to do call backs and actually get instead of characters' heads for motivation. Leverage that. Quite simply, storytelling changes from medium to medium; you don't write a comic the way you write a novel the way you write a play the way you write serialized television the way you write a blockbuster film. These read like what could have easily been web shorts or DVD extras for the show. That they didn't do more seems lazy. That they charge $3 an issue for a basically nothing seems pointlessly cynical.

#wecouldhavehaditall

It's not bad. It's just pointless.
The next issue (which is the most recent) is also lacking the Gurihiru goodness, but man I loved this team-up. The second part is much stronger too.

In fact that team-up took second place in the ANAD voting! Luke and Danny were simply unstoppable.

Edit: flipping through it....yeah. Gwenpool 6 was fucking brilliant for many reasons.
Gwenpool is my favorite comic right now. By a lot.
 
CBR said the last issue was trash because Sam
was receiving hate from one side(the people who hired Walker) for doing too much while the other side(Rage and the protesters) thought he was doing too little.
That is by the one of the dumbest complaints I have ever seen.

What? Seriously?

Oh man. That was one of the highlights of the last issue.
 
I hadn't watched the trailer yet. So I just did.

It definitely looks interesting.



Yep.

It is good from what I have seen. Some day I am going to binge the whole thing.


Also I forgot about Fargo......I guess FX is doing okay after all.

The Americans is real good man, would definitely recommend. Very character focused, it's been a real ride. Fargo is good times too. Although, American horror story...every time I find one, I find one against haha.
 

Sandfox

Member
What? Seriously?

Oh man. That was one of the highlights of the last issue.

Yeah, they said that people shouldn't buy it. That and them saying that Flintstones is so bad that it shouldn't exist just reaffirms my opinion on the current state of that site.
 
The most interesting bit of your observation is that Harley Quinn was reworked with the clear intent to be DC's version of Deadpool. Irreverent, obnoxious, anti-hero with the whole reader interaction bits.

Deathstroke begat Deadpool begat modern Harley. Makes me question why DC didn't just tailor the OG character into their desired product, but that ship sailed long ago.

There was that time Deathstroke met his Earth-3 version:
deadpoolstroke6.jpg

It was a Superman/Batman Annual I think, written by Joe Kelly and everything.
 

Sandfox

Member
A novel? The kind without pictures?

Yeah.

Also, Soule revealed that we will soon be learning how Matt
Restored his secret identity.

Bullseye
will also be returning for a story.

Alex Wilder of the Runaways will be one of the upcoming arc's main villains. Walker described Wilder as "Jack Kirby's Doctor Doom meets Childish Gambino."
Works for me.
 

Sandfox

Member
A fan asked about Tempus, a mutant from Brian Bendis's X-Men run. Soule said there is a lot of room for her to appear in IvX.

Spencer also said he feels Captain America: Sam Wilson is important, addressing things that don't usually come up in comic books.

Messi?
 
That's great news.

Well. I think it's great news. We will see. Oh god I'm dreading it now kinda

Haha I can imagine the length of the spoil tag now.

Really enjoying Cage, it's cool to see how far along these shows have come in such little time. It's all in the pacing, the music, all the little details to set the place and mood. This could have been terrible or even just boring under a lesser crew. Digging it so far though. Reckon we'll get past episode 4 or 5 tonight.
 
I am loving Deadly Class so much. I'm about 3/4 of the way through the Deluxe Edition and don't know what I'll do when I'm done. Ideally I would make myself wait until the next Deluxe Edition comes out in like... 2 years? But I know I'm going to want to continue the story :p
 

tim1138

Member
Wildstorm already ahead of schedule:

Next up is the relaunched Wildstorm Universe. "We are bringing back the Wildstorm Universe, under the impeccable vision of Warren Ellis," Lee said, citing Ellis's work on Stormwatch and the Authority. "He always got the idea of the Wildstorm universe really early on - they lived in a world of conspiracy, they lived in the fringes of the universe."

16:17
Lee said that the Wildstorm characters will be in their own universe, reimagined by Ellis. "They won't be in their team affiliations right away," Lee said. "That said, he is telling one really big story, and telling it through this one particular title, and layering it in through three additional books."

16:18
Lee said that six issues are already finished by Ellis, and there are character designs already out from Jon Davis-Hunt.

This also makes a lot of sense. All hail the success of Rebirth!

16:22
Lee said that with Rebirth stablizing the core of DC's business, it allows DC to have the resources and freedom to do things like Young Animal and Wildstorm. "This is part of the overall vision that we have for the entire slate," Lee said.
 
Wasn't the rest of the JLA line-up supposed to drop on Thursday? Or did I miss it?
That's a good point.
The two characters are used quite differently though. While Deadpool certainly was a Deathstroke rip off he's now to Marvel what Harley Quinn is to DC in terms of straddling the villain/anti-hero line, breaking the 4th wall, being silly/irreverent, but also adaptable to different types of stories, etc... Deathstroke has always remained serious and villainous, which likely lowers the ceiling on his popularity.
I've never seen, and probably will never see Harley as an anti-hero, though.
I kind of got a kick out of the trailer, I think I'll give it a shot just for that. I reaaaally like the americans, that's an FX show right? Although, they had the responsibility of adapting the strain and....yea.

Well. Got my saturday evening sorted out. A large spicy chicken pizza and starting Luke Cage on netflix then. This way, if the show is no good, I have the pizza.
Show's good, but the ending left me wanting. JJ is still my favorite of the Netflix shows
CBR said the last issue was trash because Sam
was receiving hate from one side(the people who hired Walker) for doing too much while the other side(Rage and the protesters) thought he was doing too little.
That is by the one of the dumbest complaints I have ever seen.
That's the whole fucking point though. No matter what Sam does, the world will never see him as good enough, but he knows he's doing what's right in his eyes.

Yeah.

Also, Soule revealed that we will soon be learning how Matt
Restored his secret identity.

Bullseye
will also be returning for a story.


Works for me.

Calling it right now.
It's the Hand, which is also why Echo is back: she's a sleeper agent for the Hand. Shadowland 2 coming our way.
 

Dusknoir

Member
16:24
DiDio said that Way asked him how Cave Carson got his cybernetic eye, and DiDio said, "Damned if I know." After two weeks of research, they hadn't figured it out — finally DiDio found the writer who introduced that element of the character and asked him why he gave Carson a cybernetic eye, to which he also responded, "Damned if I know."

lol

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I really end to read Robin, Son of Batman. Some characters in there are making appearances in other books.
 
Good points for Villalobos. Artist is the director, of course the writer is the scripter. Both shape the end experience, both could fuck it up. But in the movies, it's the director that is often the headliner, not the scripter. Interesting way to consider it.

Show's good, but the ending left me wanting. JJ is still my favorite of the Netflix shows

Early days for me yet man, only just finishing up ep 2, could go either way, but ill definitely give my 2 cents as I go/when I'm done!
 

kmfdmpig

Member
I've never seen, and probably will never see Harley as an anti-hero, though.[/SPOILER]

In her current series, which I find awful and have decided to drop, she is that way as she's essentially a protector of those in her neighborhood despite still being immoral/amoral.
 
I recently read all 10 volumes of Y: The Last Man. I had heard good things and love Saga.

Overall I really liked it. Great pacing with some good mystery, humor, and action.

Regarding the end of the series,
I'm not sure how crazy I am about the ending. I generally don't mind not-entirely-happy endings, but Yorick's loose end tyings were a mix of complicated and unsatisfying. I suppose that is life sometimes though; at least he had an adventure that helped the world, and at least the end of the book was not boring or predictable.
 
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