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[Winged Creature]

Well ive pretty much made my mind on what im gonna get but i thought might as well be worth a shot to see if u guys have anything that will sway my mind from the MD. Reason im going Hi-MD is cause of the replaceable battery and recording features, but after seeing the 800 model i was turned off cause of the cheap plastic body, and if im gonna spend more money for the solid construct model (900), i wonder what else is out there thats better (no im not getting an Ipod there are better HDD players). So convice me to get something else.

 

[Willco]

Buy one! Do it!

 

[lost_insaniti]

Don't get one. Convinced?

 

[Teknopathetic]

What Willco said.

 

[Defensor]

Tre, is the higher end Hi-MD player out yet?

 

[Winged Creature]

ive seen 2 models out, the 600 (entry level) and the 800 (the one with the AM/FM)

 

[Teknopathetic]

I know the 600 and the F800 are out, I don't think the 900 and the 1 are out yet, though.

 

[Dilbert]

Well ive pretty much made my mind on what im gonna get but i thought might as well be worth a shot to see if u guys have anything that will sway my mind from the MD. So convice me to get something else.

You shouldn't buy a Mini-Disc player because MD proselyzation makes the baby Jesus cry.

(I'm kidding.)

 

[Winged Creature]

Its the 900 that im leaning towards, but since no one can list a better product at the same price i guess its the winner for me.

 

[Pimpwerx]

If you buy one, your balls will fall off. You've been warned. PEACE.

 

[gunstarhero]

You don't want to buy a MD Player.

 

[Malakhov]

MD players owns, get one NOW.

 

[Nos_G]

I have seen the 600 up close and for $269 CDN.. it does look plastic-y but it still looks like sex...

Mind you, I only have a basic NetMD, so it took all of my willpower not to just whip out my debit card and buy the damned thing.

 

[p_xavier]

And this little thing cost $650C :-(

http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/se...1&productId=171997&navigationPath=46881n47420

 

[Winged Creature]

i guess the MD guys win, im going with http://www.sonystyle.ca/commerce/se...1&navigationPath=46881n47420&productId=172211

 

[SteveMeister]

Enjoy! For my purposes, I like having my entire music collection available, so a MD player (or low-capacity HDD player) is out. I also don't want to have to mess around with the media -- much more convenient just to have everything in the player, ready to go.

 

[open_mouth_]

don't do it.... I owned a Sony MD player that just stopped working after a few months (it had a problem that many other owners were having as well) and Sony basically said F*ck you and wanted me to pay more than the cost of the damned thing to get repaired. Stupid bitches.

 

[fart]

that is a terrible idea.

 

[Tainty]

wow, that is one ugly peice of shit.... have fun converting everything to atrac

 

[Mike Works]

wow, that is one ugle peice of shit.... have fun converting everything to atrac

I know little about mp3 and MD players, but doesn't it convert them automatically during the upload?

 

[Crazymoogle]

If you really have a desire to ATRAC everything, why not just go buy the new Sony HDD player?

 

[Tainty]

I know little about mp3 and MD players, but doesn't it convert them automatically during the upload?

yes.... but it still adds time to the upload, plus if you want to pull it off again later its still in atrac, plus atrac only goes up to a certain bitrate, and in my experience, vbr mp3's dont always convert correctly, and some mp3's just dont work at all. all in all its FAAAAN-tastic.

 

[p_xavier]

wow, that is one ugly peice of shit.... have fun converting everything to atrac

That's why I leave everything in Atrac, it sounds great. Why would I need mp3s anyway, it's only a format! And atrac3plus 256kbps > *

 

[Teknopathetic]

"yes.... but it still adds time to the upload, plus if you want to pull it off again later its still in atrac, plus atrac only goes up to a certain bitrate,"


ATRAC Bitrates != MP3 bitrates.

 

[Tainty]

That's why I leave everything in Atrac, it sounds great. Why would I need mp3s anyway, it's only a format! And atrac3plus 256kbps > *

* > ATRAC

atrac is proprietary, so you cant play it on anything else either... home mp3 server? fuck that... mp3 cd for your car? fuck that.... send my friend a song? fuck that... slap the songs into a burning program to make them into a regular cd? fuck that....

why archive your songs in a format that only works with one devide? I want to be able to listen to my music on other devices that I may get later on, and not strictly be limited to sony in my choices.

 

[SteveMeister]

That's why I leave everything in Atrac, it sounds great. Why would I need mp3s anyway, it's only a format! And atrac3plus 256kbps > *

Why? If you EVER want to play the tracks on anything but a Sony player, for one reason.

 

[Tainty]

ATRAC Bitrates != MP3 bitrates.

I know that.


ATRAC can't do FLAC quality. That was the crux of my argument.

 

[Teknopathetic]

Yeah, there's not a whole lot of LOSSY codecs that can . By the time you've got an MP3 up to FLAC quality, you might as well just go with FLAC.

 

[Tainty]

Yeah, there's not a whole lot of LOSSY codecs that can . By the time you've got an MP3 up to FLAC quality, you might as well just go with FLAC.

I meant that the Hi-MD player sucks because the only option is ATRAC, and because it can't get to FLAC quality. I meant to say I like FLAC and having the option to use it or something similar of similar quality.

 

[Teknopathetic]

Ah, I see. Supposedly SP is "CD quality," I dunno, though, I never used it lately. I never used SP back when I had the early MDs without LP.

 

[Winged Creature]

The Hi-MD has linear PCM at 44.1khz in 16bit so if i need lossless i have it. Reason im not going HDD is cause most dont have a replaceable battery and dont have recording options. The replaceable battery is a huge issue for me ( i would go with the Zen but that thing is huge)

 

[Tainty]

The Hi-MD has linear PCM at 44.1khz in 16bit so if i need lossless i have it. Reason im not going HDD is cause most dont have a replaceable battery and dont have recording options. The replaceable battery is a huge issue for me ( i would go with the Zen but that thing is huge)

Damn... well I guess the only argument left is the limits of useage of ATRAC.

 

[Tainty]

Ah, I see. Supposedly SP is "CD quality," I dunno, though, I never used it lately. I never used SP back when I had the early MDs without LP.

I've heard SP encoded stuff... ehhh, sounds like a high bitrate mp3, which hasn't been, and never will be cd quality.

 

[Defensor]

Tre,

Go with MZ-NHF800, MZ-NH900, or MZ-NH1?

 

[Teknopathetic]

I'm more than likely going to go with the F800.

 

[fart]

actually the biggest argument against it is that the software sucks dick. only a good idea if you need to do field recording (in which case MD is definitely the preferred choice) shit if what you're looking for is a modern day walkman. mp3 player manufacturers have successfully outwalkmanned the walkman.

 

[Defensor]

I'm more than likely going to go with the F800.

Thanks. I might go with the F800 so I can leave the 707 in my car.

 

[Teknopathetic]

SonicStage 1.5 was unadulterated ass, 2.0 is completely different.

 

[Malakhov]

don't do it.... I owned a Sony MD player that just stopped working after a few months (it had a problem that many other owners were having as well) and Sony basically said F*ck you and wanted me to pay more than the cost of the damned thing to get repaired. Stupid bitches.

I've owned one for more than 5 years and I gave it hell and it's still working flawlessly.

 

[p_xavier]

atrac is proprietary, so you cant play it on anything else either... home mp3 server?

Sony's roomlink acts as a tivo and a music interface for your tv and other appliances.

mp3 cd for your car?

You can burn mp3 cds in sonicstage 2.0 as well as atrac cds, which I can read in my car cd player.

send my friend a song?

I don't give songs to my friends since they should buy their own cds as I do.

slap the songs into a burning program to make them into a regular cd?

The function's already included in sonicstage 2.0

Ok, you're right on the limited to sony in your choices, but I like sony's products, they're fashionable.

 

[SteveMeister]

The Hi-MD has linear PCM at 44.1khz in 16bit so if i need lossless i have it. Reason im not going HDD is cause most dont have a replaceable battery and dont have recording options. The replaceable battery is a huge issue for me ( i would go with the Zen but that thing is huge)

Just for the record, the iPod's battery IS user-replaceable. The battery will certainly last well beyond your 1 year warranty (and even if it doesn't, battery replacement is included in the warranty anyway). After the warranty expires, you can buy replacement kits to do it yourself, or send your iPod to Apple or one of the cheaper battery replacement services. It's not as huge a deal as some make it out to be. If your primary concern is charge duration for longer times, and not the overall life of the battery itself, the new 4G iPods can run up to 12 hours on a single charge. And beyond that, Belkin sells an external battery pack that provides up to 15 additional hours of play time. So add that to a 4th generation iPod and you're good for 24 hours or more.

 

[MrPing1000]

Do it and I'll eat your penis

 

[Winged Creature]

Just for the record, the iPod's battery IS user-replaceable. The battery will certainly last well beyond your 1 year warranty (and even if it doesn't, battery replacement is included in the warranty anyway). After the warranty expires, you can buy replacement kits to do it yourself, or send your iPod to Apple or one of the cheaper battery replacement services. It's not as huge a deal as some make it out to be. If your primary concern is charge duration for longer times, and not the overall life of the battery itself, the new 4G iPods can run up to 12 hours on a single charge. And beyond that, Belkin sells an external battery pack that provides up to 15 additional hours of play time. So add that to a 4th generation iPod and you're good for 24 hours or more.

but i cant do quick battery swapping like i can with an MD, plus Ipod doesnt sound as good.

 

[SteveMeister]

plus Ipod doesnt sound as good.

Meh, that's a matter of opinion. I think my iPod sounds terrific, especially when using the line out (via the dock connector on the bottom) as opposed to the headphone jack on the top.