Cook Political Report: Lieberman vows to run as Independent in General Election

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Is this for this years elections or for 08? If it's for now.... it's a bad idea. If it's for 08, it's an even worse idea. The only thing worse than Lieberman in office is another Republican, and if he runs in 08 it'll hurt the DNC's chances at taking back the white house
 
whytemyke said:
Is this for this years elections or for 08? If it's for now.... it's a bad idea. If it's for 08, it's an even worse idea. The only thing worse than Lieberman in office is another Republican, and if he runs in 08 it'll hurt the DNC's chances at taking back the white house
This year. The deadline to file to run as an Independant is the day after the primary. So Lieberman will have to collect signitures to run independant at the same time he campaigns as a Democrat unless he declares now. If he doesn't and loses the primary as a Democrat there isn't enough time after. So it sounds like he'll just take his chances as an Independant.
 
It's official:

Lieberman To Start Petition Drive


By MARK PAZNIOKAS
The Hartford Courant

July 3 2006, 12:45 PM EDT

Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman is to announce today he will petition for a place on the November ballot as an "independent Democrat," giving him a chance to stay alive politically should he lose an Aug. 8 primary for the Democratic nomination.

Lieberman, 64, a three-term senator whose outspoken support of the war in Iraq has brought months of grief and inspired a strong primary challenge from Greenwich businessman Ned Lamont, intends to announce his decision this afternoon at the State Capitol.

Even should he lose in August -- and the most recent public poll shows him leading Lamont by 15-percentage points among likely primary voters -- Lieberman would retain his status as a registered Democrat, but his name would not appear on the ballot line with other Democrats.

Lieberman began making courtesy calls to leading Democrats late this morning.

Most other Democratic candidates already have said they would support the winner of the Aug. 8 primary.

For months, Lieberman has refused to rule out running as petitioning candidate should he lose the primary, though he said recently he would not withdraw from the primary under any circumstances.

Lieberman will need to gather 7,500 signatures to guarantee a ballot place, an effort likely to begin next week.

Lamont, 52, the founder of a cable-television company, has contributed $1.5 million of his own money to his campaign. Lamont also has raised hundreds of thousands of dollar in small donations, mostly over the Internet.

His candidacy has been widely supported by a network of local and national Web logs.

Apparently, the "independent Democrat" label is Joe's way of getting around promises he may have made not to quit the party. BTW, the Lamont/Lieberman debate is at 7 PM on Thursday. I'm looking forward to it.
 
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Tamanon said:
If Lieberman decides to run as an independent in '08 that could be crippling for the DNC.
If McCain doesn't get the GOP nod I could see him running with Lieberman as a independent ticket. A ticket that could possibly win.
 
AlanHemberger said:
So you mean Lieberman decides to automatically lose and accomplish nothing!? WOW
Lieberman will, sadly, win this race no matter his ticket. He is around 15% ahead of Lamont as IND in polls.
 
So what's bad about loyalties greater than your party?

One would think that loyalties to your own beliefs would be greater.
 
AlanHemberger said:
I think the "oh my " was a positive reaction

Uh... what? No, it wasn't a positive reaction, unless by "positive" you meant that I'm delighted that Lieberman is showing himself to be a spineless douche who shows nothing but contempt for his own party's voters while claiming to be a centrist, which I guess I am.
 
Father_Brain said:
Uh... what? No, it wasn't a positive reaction, unless by "positive" you meant that I'm delighted that Lieberman is showing himself to be a spineless douche who shows nothing but contempt for his own party's voters while claiming to be a centrist, which I guess I am.



Only on GAF can someone who stands up for his OWN beliefs be a spineless douche.
 
Cheebs said:
Lieberman will, sadly, win this race no matter his ticket. He is around 15% ahead of Lamont as IND in polls.
Considering Lamont's popularity has been growing by leaps and bounds for the last two months, I don't think you can make any safe bets about Lieberman's chances. The more competition and criticism Lieberman gets, the worse he reacts to it.
 
My damn self said:
Lieberman doesn't stick up for his principles. He claimed opposition to both Alito's confirmation and to the bankruptcy bill, but voted for cloture on both. He did a quick reversal on vouchers when he was the VP nominee in 2000, then went back to his original position when he lost. In 2003, he said it was the right thing to "question [Bush's] leadership," then in 2005 said war critics "undermine presidential credibility at our nation’s peril." He wavered on Bush's Social Security plans until it became clear which way the wind was blowing. He voted against making corporations finance stock options in 1993, then ran primary campaign ads about how he stuck up for the little guy against big special interests.
Again, why do people assume Lieberman "stands up for his OWN beliefs?" Other than his belief that he should be in a position of power.
 
Tamanon said:
So what's bad about loyalties greater than your party?

One would think that loyalties to your own beliefs would be greater.

Yeah, I certainly didn't have any problems with Lieberman's quote. Let him run as independent; he's of no use to the Democrats in terms of unifying their party platform and, with any luck, it may encourage stronger independent voices in the political system. With any luck, he'll lose handily.
 
Figured, what a pussy. How shocked he must be, a primary challenger. The anger. He's going to lose either way. Good riddance.

Members of a party abide by primary results. There is no such thing as an "petitioning Democrat." If there was, Joe could accept the Republican endorsement and run as a "Republican Democrat."

Joe has also clearly stated he thinks he will lose the primary on August 8th. His internal polls must look even worse than I thought.

Just like when Joe ran for Vice President and Senate at the same time in 2000 - meaning that if he and Gore had won, Democrats would have lost a senate seat to a Republican appointment - he is again putting his own career and self-interest ahead of his constitutents and his party (or now ex-party).

In addition, Joe has just created a world of shit for his supposed friends Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer, Chris Dodd, Diane Farrell, Joe Courtney, and Chris Murphy. I wonder what they all think of this.

This is how he treats his friends. This is how he treats his party. On the slowest news day of the summer.

These are the actions of a very weak candidate, and a selfish and cowardly man.

What a sorry sight to see an 18-year incumbent senator running scared from a little primary challenge like this. No backbone. No courage. No integrity.

Ned Lamont
 
To her credit, Sen. Clinton has announced that she will support the winner of the August 8 primary.

Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton, a longtime supporter of Sen. Joseph Lieberman, said Tuesday she will not back the Connecticut Democrat's bid for re-election if he loses their party's primary.

"I've known Joe Lieberman for more than thirty years. I have been pleased to support him in his campaign for re-election, and hope that he is our party's nominee," the former first lady said in a statement issued by aides.

"But I want to be clear that I will support the nominee chosen by Connecticut Democrats in their primary," the New York Democrat added. "I believe in the Democratic Party, and I believe we must honor the decisions made by Democratic primary voters."

Hopefully, other prominent Democrats will follow suit.
 
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