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Copa América Argentina 2011 |OT| South America is Best America

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Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus


What is Copa América?
  • The Copa América is the world’s oldest international football association competition between national teams. The first tournament, won by Uruguay against hosts Argentina, began in 1916, even before FIFA organised its first official tournament at the 1924 Summer Olympics. The ten teams from the CONMEBOL confederation participate without the need of qualifiers. They also invite two teams from other confederations to bring the total of participating nations to twelve.

When and where?
  • The tournament will begin in July 1st in La Plata at 21:45 PM local time, and the final will be held on July 24th on Primera Nacional B River Plate’s stadium, Estadio Monumental.

Format
  • The first stage are divided into three groups of four, where each team plays one match against the other and is awarded points –three for a win, one for a draw, and zero for a defeat. The winners and runner-ups of each group advance automatically to the quarterfinals, and the two best third-placed teams follow them. In case of a tie between teams the tie-breaker criteria are:
    1. Greater number of points in all group matches
    2. Goal difference in all group matches
    3. Greater number of goals scored in all group matches
    4. Head-to-head results
    5. Drawing of lots by the CONMEBOL Organising Committee​

Group A


Argentina

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FIFA World Ranking: 5th

Best Performance: Champions (1921, 1925, 1927, 1929, 1937, 1942, 1945, 1946, 1947, 1955, 1957, 1959, 1991, 1993)

The favourite to win the tournament. Not only do they have the most individual stars of the competition (including the world's current best player), playing on their local turf means they will find support wherever they go –and their rivals will meet disdain and hatred. The major national team hasn’t won anything since the 1993 Copa América, so now is their best chance in almost twenty years to remind the world why they are a world power. If they have a weakness it is that Checho Batista hasn't been able to make the defencive portion of the team coalesce in recent friendlies.

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Player to look out for: Lionel Messi


Colombia

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FIFA World Ranking: 50th

Best Performance: Champions (2001)

Colombia hasn’t been the same since the days of Carlos Valderrama, and they haven’t been able to attend a World Cup since 1998. Will they be able to crown themselves glorious again like they did in 2001? Bolillo Gómez has been using a 4-1-4-1 formation , seemingly fit for Falcao’s introduction. It should be enough to help them dominate Costa Rica and Bolivia.

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Player to look out for: Radamel Falcao


Costa Rica

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FIFA World Ranking: 56th

Best Performance: QuarterFinals (1997, 2001, 2004)

Costa Rica enters the competition as an invitee from CONCACAF after Japan declined due to the recent earthquake, so they are required to field an under-23 team reinforced with five older players. The team that was fielded in the Gold Cup will more than likely reappear here, as most of the players are under the age limit. Their lineup may look like an accident (similar to their invitation to the tournament), but they are going through a renewal process with players eager to shake off the poor image they gave in the CONCACAF tournament.

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Player to look out for: Bryan Ruiz


Bolivia

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FIFA World Ranking: 102nd

Best Performance: Champions (1963)

Bolivia is generally considered to be the worst team in CONMEBOL, but let’s not forget that they trashed Argentina 6-1 during the last World Cup qualifiers. There is not a lot of youth in the team, however, and that may play against them when facing much more energetic sides. Will they be able to upset them again? They will have to deal with the opening match pressure as well.

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Player to look out for: Marcelo Martins



Group B


Brazil

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FIFA World Ranking: 3rd

Best Performance: Champions (1919, 1922, 1949, 1989, 1997, 1999, 2004, 2007)

Brazil will always be a favourite no matter what the tournament is; they are a country-wide La Masia. Out of the last five Copas América, Brazil has won four, only beaten in 2001 by a surprising performance by Honduras in the quarterfinals. They are under a process of renovation with sights on the 2014 World Cup, featuring rising stars like Ganso and Neymar. The approach is double-edged –Brazil’s coach, Mano Menezes, has been under heavy criticism as they recently tied against Netherlands in Brazil and won only 1-0 against Rumania.

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Player to look out for: Neymar


Paraguay

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FIFA World Ranking: 23rd

Best Performance: Champions (1953, 1979)

Paraguay’s play in the World Cup (and Larissa Riquelme’s attributes) captivated many, and they were close to kicking Spain out during the quarter-finals. Coach Tata Martino has had problems to name a main squad until very close to the tournament, but they seem to have an accessible group barring Brazil. Their attack comprises people like Lucas Barrios and Roque Santa Cruz, but let’s remember that Martino’s teams work according to the rival. They might not have the flashiest football, but they are willing to do the dirty work when necessary.

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Player to look out for: Lucas Barrios


Ecuador

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Best Performance: Fourth Place (1959, 1993)

FIFA World Ranking: 64th

Ecuador reaches Copa América with a experienced team including Luis Antonio Valencia, Cristián Novoa, Michael Arroyo, and Christian Benítez. However, of the twelve preparation matches disputed previous to Copa América, they were only able to attain two victories. Worst of all, coach Reinaldo Rueda was not able to name a convocation list until close to the tournament, speaking of problems in important portions of the field –a situation that has not be helped by constant injury losses to players like Jaime Ayobí.

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Player to look out for: Luis Antonio Valencia


Venezuela

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FIFA World Ranking: 68th

Best Performance: Quarterfinals (2007), Second Round (1967)

Venezuela has grown up. As Bolivia has taken their place as the ugly duckling of CONMEBOL, la Vinotinto has put up some good performances in recent years, almost reaching a World Cup spot in the last qualifiers. They finished fifth in the last Copa América, and they have also tried to remain competitive by facing stronger sides like Spain, Paraguay, and Mexico u-23. On the other hand, they have to open the tournament versus Brazil, so that may work against them in the beginning.

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Player to look out for: Juan Arango




Group C


Uruguay

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FIFA World Ranking: 7th

Best Performance: Champions (1916, 1917, 1920, 1923, 1924, 1926, 1935, 1942, 1956, 1959, 1967, 1983, 1987, 1995)

La Celeste’s fourth place in the World Cup surprised many –including themselves. Add to that Peñarol getting to the final of Copa Libertadores after a long time and we can see that Uruguayan football strives to return to that place they historically own. They have one of the best attacking fronts in the tournament, comprising Diego Forlán, Luis Suárez, and Édinson Cavani, being only surpassed by Argentina and Brazil –and maybe even rivaling them. Their downfall may be the weak lower half of the field, including a shaky goalie in the body of Fernando Muslera. Do not underestimate them, however: if someone can impede the Argentina vs Brazil final, it is them.

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Player to look out for: Édinson Cavani


Chile

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FIFA World Ranking: 13th

Best Performance: Runners-Up (1955, 1956, 1979, 1987)

Chile finished second during the last World Cup qualifiers, and could have gone farther in South Africa had they not face Spain and Brazil one after another. Many people think that Chile’s luck is over now that Marcelo Bielsa has left the country, but their players have shown that they can stand up to the task in some recent friendlies against teams like Portugal under Claudio Borghi’s tenure, who fielded many of the team’s players under Colo-Colo. Count on them to be the dark horse of the tournament.

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Player to look out for: Alexis Sánchez


Mexico

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FIFA World Ranking: 28th

Best Performance: Runners-Up (1993, 2001)

Mexico has gone to the semi-finals of every Copa América it has been invited to except two –and have even reached the final twice. They have been a constant surprise, probably because of their underdog status. This time it’s going to be different, as CONCACAF has mandated that they field a u-23 team whose real purpose is the 2012 London Olympics. Add to that a very difficult group and players who are wearing la verde for the first time ever. Do not expect much from el Tri under this situation –at best they might be able to grab a third-place spot through the so-called operación murciélago, defending heavily and relying on counters sent towards Dos Santos.

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Player to look out for: Giovani dos Santos


Peru

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FIFA World Ranking: 54th

Best Performance: Champions (1939, 1975)

Another underperformer, they have had some decent results since Sergio Markarián took over coaching duties. The task will not be easy, since the renovation process has been very slow, and the players have had some discipline issues in the last year. La blanquirroja has played ten friendlies since the World Cup, winning four, drawing five, and losing one. Not only that, but they have suffered some meaningful losses including captain Claudio Pizarro, Jefferson la foquita Farfán, and Juan Vargas. We will see if that kind of defence manages to hold the attacking threat of Uruguay.

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Player to look out for: Carlos Zambrano



Where can I watch it?

The Youtube channel on Copa América has put up some highlights from the last tournament, so don't forget to check out some of the quality football the competition promises for us.
 

xbhaskarx

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Do not expect much from el Tri under this situation –at best they might be able to grab a third-place spot

And at worst they will have eight players sent home in a prostitution scandal:

The Mexico national soccer team was plunged into crisis just days ahead of the Copa America after eight players were suspended Tuesday over allegations they invited prostitutes to their team hotel.

Team director Hector Gonzalez Inarritu confirmed the players, currently training in Ecuador, had been handed six-month bans for breaching Mexico's code of discipline.

He did not divulge details of their transgressions but reports in the Mexican media alleged the eight were dropped for inviting prostitutes to their Quito hotel.

The eight players -- Israel Jimenez, Nestor Vidrio, Jonathan Dos Santos, Marco Fabian, Jorge Hernandez, Javier Cortes, David Cabrera and Nestor Calderon -- were also fined 50,000 pesos ($4,200) each by the Mexican Soccer Federation.

They had been preparing to leave Ecuador for Argentina to compete in the Copa America, South America's premier international soccer tournament, which kicks off Friday.

According to the reports, the players' alleged antics came to light when members of the Mexican party reported items such as iPads, cell phones and cash had gone missing from their rooms.

When officials checked the hotel's closed circuit television system they saw six women being escorted into the building by a team representative. Reports allege the women were prostitutes.
 

Revoh

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I'm rooting for my country: Paraguay. We won the tournament 2 times already (nothing compared to Argentina & Uruguay) and I think we have a decent team to do a good job.

Fuerza Albirroja!
 

DanteFox

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OP said:
This time it’s going to be different, as CONCACAF has mandated that they field a u-23 team whose real purpose is the 2012 London Olympics. Add to that a very difficult group and players who are wearing la verde for the first time ever.
Wait what does this mean? Will the team playing in the Copa America be different from the one that just won the Gold Cup?
 

clemenx

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Looking forward to Messi doing jack shit with Argentina again.

As for my Venezuela, we have basically thrown away all the growth we've had the last few years due to our piece of shit federation. So I only hope we don't get embarrassed in that group
 
Fuck this. Can't believe FMF suspended 8 players. Suspend them for 1 game and leave it at that. The only people they were doing harm to is themselves. I'm pretty sure prostitution is legal in Ecuador and Mexico so long as the adults are 18 and they have consent.


So bummed. I was actually getting optimistic since the u22 squad tied Colombia, and Beat Ecuador and Bolivia. Now the team is going to be even shittier.


So salty. That feel when you'll never see Jona, Enriquez, and Gio play on the same team together...

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JLG-

Member
DanteFox said:
How different?

I was hyped because of how well they played in the Gold Cup. =(
Very Different.

The only key player from the Gold Cup team that will also play in Copa America is Giovani Dos Santos.

I was looking forward to seeing him and his brother play together. :(
 

DominoKid

Member
I'd like Brazil to win but Argentina's gonna buttfuck this tournament.

Messi + Home Field Advantage = total destruction
 

Regulus Tera

Romanes Eunt Domus
This is Brazil's tournament to lose. Cecho Batista's insistence on playing like Barcelona is only doing a disservice to the team's strength. Also the back is shit.
Dissonance said:
Anyone know which networks will be showing this in Canada and the US?

Score will air it in Canada. Setanta Sports in Australia. No idea about the US.

DanteFox said:
How different?

I was hyped because of how well they played in the Gold Cup. =(

Gio is repeating. That's about it.
 

JLG-

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Dissonance said:
Anyone know which networks will be showing this in Canada and the US?
I don't know what channels are airing it in English but if you don't mind Spanish, Univision and Telefutura will be airing the games in the US.
 

Fersis

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Regulus Tera said:
Primera Nacional B River Plate’s stadium
Trolololol
This pleases me.

I expect Argentina to choke in semi finals.
 
Daniel Dantas said:
Ganso > Neymar. We need to keep an eye in Lucas (the black one, not the blond). :)
Yeah, forgot to comment on Ganso. Amazing player too, I'm not sure which one is better :p

And the Lucas you refer to is the one from Sao Paulo right? Yeah he's amazing too.
 

DD

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Insane Metal said:
Yeah, forgot to comment on Ganso. Amazing player too, I'm not sure which one is better :p

And the Lucas you refer to is the one from Sao Paulo right? Yeah he's amazing too.
Yep! The one from São Paulo, not Liverpool (wich is good too, but not that brilliant).

Amazing to see that the tree best brazilian players are still playing here, and not in Europe. It's a matter of time, though, unfortunately... :(
 
DanteFox said:
Forgive my ignorance, but why is that? I've only started following football recently.

Concashit wanted to give their Gold Cup more prestige, so they made Mexico prioritize the Gold Cup over the Copa America. They told Mexico to use u22 squad + 5 overage players to play in Copa America or else they wouldn't let Mexico play in Copa America. Mexico belongs to Concacaf. They were invited to play in South America (Conmebol) for this tourney. So it's not an official tourney for them. Even if they were allowed to play, managers can forbid players from playing since it's not an official tourney for them. For example, Wenger didn't allow Carlos Vela to play for Mexico in this tourney.

Now Mexico had 8 players suspended because they had 4 prostitutes in their hotel rooms. Among those was Barca B player Jonathan Dos Santos. This team is now even weaker than before.

Mexico is fucked basically.
 

Kid Ying

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I still haven't saw what is so great about Ganso. He played some good games, the guy is good, i'll give you that, but i don't think he was tested at a really difficult situation yet. At Libertadores, Neymar was all alone almost the entire championship.

To me, Neymar is already at a higher level. But i hope to see that other side of Ganso that the press usually see(when Ganso touch the ball, even if he did nothing, it's already something that only a genius could think, even less make. Goddamn, he did nothing at the end of the Libertadores, but everytime he just appeared at the tv everyone was screaming like a teenager in a robert pattinson movie.).

But i really like Lucas too, specially because he sounds like the most humble and nice of the trio.

But the best part of the whole team is Fred. Not because he's a good player, but because he will leave Fluminense for a month. I can only hope to see him not coming back at all. Never.

Anyway, i'm cheering for Uruguay. I think they deserves it after the last cup. :) I can't cheer for another team with Fred in it. My heart would not endure so much frustration.
 

Kid Ying

Member
Not only Neymar is a awesome football player, he can also compete at diving in the next olympics at a very high level. That's really something.
 
Haha didn't expect to see Peru in it but lets go Peru B^)

Haha my cousins and family will be glued to the tv when they play.

*puts on Peru jersey*
 
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