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Nintendo is going to offer downloads of past games on their past consoles, this we know. Could it be possible for Sega to release a disc that contained emulators for the Master System, Genesis, Game Gear Sega-CD, 32X, Saturn, and Dreamcast on it so that they could provide downloads to their past library on their past consoles as well?

I don't think it would be that difficult of a prospect, and it would be amazing. It was basically make the Revolution the ultimate retro console. Heck, you might as well try to get the Neo-Geo compatibility on board through software as well...
 
only if Nintendo eases up on the licensing fees. 3rd party publishers will have a limited install base with which to cater their old games to....mainly those of us who grew up on games. Nostalgia-games is not a growth sector, on the other hand the consumers that these games cater to have the disposable income for these retro games.
 
I might be totally missing something, but why is everyone so excited about this feature? Everything can already be done (and done better) on your PC. Maybe it's just me...but next time I (inevitably) play through Crono Trigger, FF6 or Super Metroid, I'll want to use 2XSai filter and savestates.

I always figured backwards compatability would only be useful for one generation back, since anything past that is done better on a PC (PS games look much better and have more features with ePSXe that on PS2). Is it pure nostalgia and/or wanting to play the 100% accurate port?
 
rusty said:
I might be totally missing something, but why is everyone so excited about this feature? Everything can already be done (and done better) on your PC. Maybe it's just me...but next time I (inevitably) play through Crono Trigger, FF6 or Super Metroid, I'll want to use 2XSai filter and savestates.

I always figured backwards compatability would only be useful for one generation back, since anything past that is done better on a PC (PS games look much better and have more features with ePSXe that on PS2). Is it pure nostalgia and/or wanting to play the 100% accurate port?
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Nostalgia, 100% port, and legality are all issues. I don't support ROMS, but I have in the past. I don't feel a need to tell others to quit using them, but I personally would rather further support the companies for the quality content they have created, even if it seems outdated by today's standards.
 
terrygolder said:
Maybe there isn't much to look forward to.
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that's because the videogame business model is becoming increasingly riskier each generation. the licensing model that we have is dated. publishers are the only option for distributing your game (bottleneck) which means they're the ones in control.

1st parties need to support the development community first. I look at developer submissions all day and some of these guys can't obtain dev kits unless they're signed by a publisher, but in this day and age what publisher will sign a developer that doesn't have their own tools and tech?
 
rusty said:
I might be totally missing something, but why is everyone so excited about this feature? Everything can already be done (and done better) on your PC. Maybe it's just me...but next time I (inevitably) play through Crono Trigger, FF6 or Super Metroid, I'll want to use 2XSai filter and savestates.

I always figured backwards compatability would only be useful for one generation back, since anything past that is done better on a PC (PS games look much better and have more features with ePSXe that on PS2). Is it pure nostalgia and/or wanting to play the 100% accurate port?
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You are totally missing something. The couch and the big TV.
 
Playing emulated games on my computer sucks because the best it can run without much problem is Genesis-level games. And even then there are often a lot of little graphic and sound issues that deter from the experience. With Revolution, it will be nice to have perfect emulation all in one box without all the cords from different systems, and without having to unhook or rehook anything to play. Also, I'm hopeful that old games will be able to go online. I heard iQue could do it, so Revolution probably could too.

Sega compatibility would be fantastic. Make it profitable, Nintendo, and Sega won't have a (good) reason not to do it.
 
rusty said:
I might be totally missing something, but why is everyone so excited about this feature? Everything can already be done (and done better) on your PC. Maybe it's just me...but next time I (inevitably) play through Crono Trigger, FF6 or Super Metroid, I'll want to use 2XSai filter and savestates.

I always figured backwards compatability would only be useful for one generation back, since anything past that is done better on a PC (PS games look much better and have more features with ePSXe that on PS2). Is it pure nostalgia and/or wanting to play the 100% accurate port?
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I have said this many times on this board, just beacuse you can do something does not make it leagal and right. Some people just don't like to steal...I would not want somebody to beable download something that cost me money, time, and hard work to create for free.
 
Ferny84 said:
Maybe.

For a price.
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"Everybody's got a price." :D
 
themadcowtipper said:
I have said this many times on this board, just beacuse you can do something does not make it leagal and right. Some people just don't like to steal...I would not want somebody to beable download something that cost me money, time, and hard work to create for free.
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Not everyone is like that. I have the originals for anything I run on an Emu. Couple of SNES games, Mario 64, WONDER BOY III (I loved that game) some PSX CD's, etc. Not a huge collection, but then I dont really play that much with them. I've only got 10 ROMs on my system, but they are all games I own. Sure maybe its true that for every person like me, theres 10 who just d/l the ROM illegally... but we are out there ;)
 
themadcowtipper said:
I have said this many times on this board, just beacuse you can do something does not make it leagal and right. Some people just don't like to steal...I would not want somebody to beable download something that cost me money, time, and hard work to create for free.
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Point taken. I don't necessarily agree, but I won't argue ROM piracy with anyone because I'd guess most people that are against it have pirated music/software/movies on their PC.
 
Sega recently sold a Genesis emulator with seven games for $20-30. That's ONLY Genesis, and ONLY seven games. It sold pretty well too. Close to 900,000 copies, just on gamecube (it was also released for PS2 and Xbox later). I can't see Sega releasing an entire back catalog of any system, except maybe Pico. Also, remember the quality assurance costs of doing this. While regularly, you'd have to hire game testers to test your single game looking for glitches and inconsistencies, you'd have to test about a hundred games for the kind of thing you're looking for. Sega can keep making money on doing the bare minimum. I don't think they'd go further than that. This new Sonic Gems Collection is a step in the right direction though... I mean, Sega CD (unless it's the PC version) and Model 2 emulation! That's a big deal. I think this is more a labor of love from Nintendo. They won't be making money on the games. They'll be making money on the added consoles sold (and yet not on the hardware), which will in turn increase support from other developers and allow their own games to sell more copies. Sega (and other companies) don't have that same incentive.
 
I'd rather have the PC-Engine.
 
monchi-kun said:
only if Nintendo eases up on the licensing fees. 3rd party publishers will have a limited install base with which to cater their old games to....mainly those of us who grew up on games. Nostalgia-games is not a growth sector, on the other hand the consumers that these games cater to have the disposable income for these retro games.
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Those damn TV-Games things sell like f'n hot-cakes still. I think this feature will sell great to the less tech savvy.
 
Sega said:
Sega recently sold a Genesis emulator with seven games for $20-30. That's ONLY Genesis, and ONLY seven games. It sold pretty well too. Close to 900,000 copies, just on gamecube (it was also released for PS2 and Xbox later). I can't see Sega releasing an entire back catalog of any system, except maybe Pico. Also, remember the quality assurance costs of doing this. While regularly, you'd have to hire game testers to test your single game looking for glitches and inconsistencies, you'd have to test about a hundred games for the kind of thing you're looking for. Sega can keep making money on doing the bare minimum. I don't think they'd go further than that. This new Sonic Gems Collection is a step in the right direction though... I mean, Sega CD (unless it's the PC version) and Model 2 emulation! That's a big deal. I think this is more a labor of love from Nintendo. They won't be making money on the games. They'll be making money on the added consoles sold (and yet not on the hardware), which will in turn increase support from other developers and allow their own games to sell more copies. Sega (and other companies) don't have that same incentive.
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Do you know Sega's gamehompo for PC? (service for playing megadrive and megacd games on pc). Also, didn't Sega have a similar service with a few Saturn games?.
 
This download feature makes the Revolution a must-have for me. Emulators are a pain in the butt as well as illegal, so I'm very happy to see Nintendo do this. My hope is we will finally see the SNES versions of some games that weren't originally brought over to the US, like Final Fantasy IV (not easy version), and Final Fantasy V. The Playstation load times on these games suck.
 
While I don't get it, you wouldn't believe how many people on my college campus own NES systems and nothing else. Especially girls. Even my boss still plays NES.
 
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