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[Liopleurodon]

* be a good thing

Like, everyone again just doing their own thing, maybe, maaaaaaaybe releasing stuff on PC half, or one year later.

I ask this as PC player first and foremost, who wishes even Nintendo games would come to PC, but also as someone who wants to watch the world burn (I don't actually want to watch the world burn.).

...

Probably gonna buy myself Switch 2 at some point.

 

[Kupfer]

Console wars are no fun, but they are necessary for innovation and competition.

 

[R3TRO]

No, but that might just be my age talking.

 

[AJUMP23]

It is only fun if we were actually killing with the consoles.

 

[Unfortunatecookie]

It's not about console wars. It's about value proposition.

Uniqueness is a reason to spend your time, energy, and money on a thing. This has always been true but shills are now pushing that this has never been the case. These same shills are trying to brainwash you into believing that the success of a platform (e.g., the Switch 2) is because of just like random stuff y'know versus actual verifiable sales figures of exclusive IP.

Only Boomers and short-sighters think exclusives don't matter. Through Xbox, we're literally witnessing what happens when your platform offers zero exclusives. It's very strange that grown men are seemingly incapable of seeing this. Very very strange.

 

[Punished Miku]

Personally, I think it would be a bad

 

[Magic Carpet]

It would be good for my wallet. If your game isn't on PC, I'm not buying it. I'm not buying every platform anymore. I used to do that when things were cheap. Not anymore.
If I don't have access to your game, I don't buy it.
I'll watch a youtube lets play of your precious exclusives to keep up with the memes.

 

[mayham2199]

Console wars are no fun, but they are necessary for innovation and competition.

Agreed. I really don't like games being split up and having people forced to miss out on good games. I do think the competition really pushes these companies to provide more to consumers and innovate though.

 

[Miyazaki’s Slave]

"Having people forced to miss out on good games"

This isn't a global problem, it is an individuals problem.

 

[Signalis]

PC gamers have really become insufferable. And no one is forcing you to only play PC, if there is an exclusive you really want to play, then cough up buddy and stop the port begging

 

[Ecotic]

I know that I'm in the minority, but console wars have always been fun to me, or at least signified a healthy industry. Underlying the immaturity of it all was a sense that supremacy was a prize worth having. Think back to important E3's of the past, all the hoopla and passion at least were markers that there were dollars worth fighting over.

I get real ghost town vibes when no one's trying to claw away what others have earned.

 

[KenaiPhoenix]

Yes, they are absolutely good for gamers and industry. In a narrow view analysis it is bad because you need to have all system to enjoy a gen, but on the wider one you get more gems because each company needs to win over the competition.

I will elaborate, in fact, I was thinking in making a threat like this:

I will use Halo as example, it was a big hitter and put the new arrival, Xbox, in the mouths of many gamers. To compete with this Nintendo and Sony needed to get their own "mature" FPS on their console, making/allowing/give more resources to their own exclusive FPS: Metroid Prime and Killzone (mainly). Yes the PS2 has other (better) FPS like Battlefield 2 or Black, but they where not exclusive and could be also played on the Xbox; and Nintendo is just Nintendo, they could just say "people will still buy Mario". I want to focus on Killzone, anyone that played it knows it is a really "meh" game, not bad, but it was not good either. In other words, I doubt many people bought a PS2 so they could play Killzone. This is to say, it didnt deserve a sequel, but Sony needed an FPS, specially now that Halo and Halo 2 where a success and that the 360 will definitely had a Halo 3. So they pressed on, give resources and the spotlight to Killzone 2... and this game is really REALLY good, a thing that probably wouldnt exists if it werent because Sony needed something against Halo.

This can go beyond ofc: platformers, simulators, etc. But the point still stands: Yes it sucks that in order to get all the good FPS you needed to get an Xbox, a PlayStation 2 and a Gamecube. In a world without exclusives chances are that yeah, you could play Halo on all paltforms, but you would not have (or have a very poor quality) Metroid Prime or Killzone. I mean, why would they give more resources otherwise? if CoD would be exclusive for the Xbox/PC Sony would have to get their own FPS, maybe even resurrect Killzone.

And speaking of money, companies will invest on these games, even if they barely break even, but because those games will get systems sold.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

* be a good thing

Like, everyone again just doing their own thing, maybe, maaaaaaaybe releasing stuff on PC half, or one year later.

I ask this as PC player first and foremost, who wishes even Nintendo games would come to PC, but also as someone who wants to watch the world burn (I don't actually want to watch the world burn.).

...

Probably gonna buy myself Switch 2 at some point.

When I was younger I bought all the consoles for a given generation. I had PS2 + XBOX + Gamecube, then PS3 + X360. Now that I am older and with kids this looks like incredible waste of money and space.

 

[Zacfoldor]

It takes a certain kind of man to find the pleasure in it. A year ago I could have taught you to engage thousands as just one man.

...but lately I'm trying real hard to be the shepherd.

 

[Guilty_AI]

Exclusives don't work as well as they did in the past because the value of individual games has been drastically reduced. We are literally swimming in release after release, with countless games of the past decade still available.

There are so many games to go around that making your game exclusive to a platform, expecting people to buy that platform for it is silly. Yes, some specific games can manage it, but the value you need to achieve that amount of interest is so ridiculously insane that merely attempting to develop something like that is a life-threatening risk for a company. It's basically impossible unless you already own one of the few estabilished IPs that could pull this off like Zelda or GTA.

 

[rm082e]

Exclusives:

I don't see why we need more than one console if they don't have some degree of exclusive games or unique features. If those are timed exclusives, or if they're first party games that come to PC, that's a bit of a gray area for me. Everything I've heard from Developers is that they make 90% of their revenue from a game during the first 4-6 months (not Gaas titles obviously). So a PlayStation exclusive coming to PC a year later doesn't seem like a problem.​

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PC, PlayStation and Switch seem like they compliment each other really well. They're different enough that they can each have a solid base and make money. As mentioned in one of the other threads, PlayStation is refocusing on the Japanese market. That seems like a great example of market competition pushing them to take action.​

Console Wars:

Who cares? This is just people chattering. I get forum mods not wanting to deal with the headaches, but I don't see how people debating/arguing over the features of a console hurts the console market. If anything, it seems like market competition in action.​

 

[Bernkastel]

Yes. Sony should go back to exclusives like Nintendo.

 

[analog_future]

Not at all.

I just want to play games, man.

 

[Dr. Samuel Hayden]

Yes.

 

[Baemono]

What do you mean "return" ? What are my Donkey Kong Bananza and Ghost of Yotei ?

 

[iamvin22]

Sony should return back to exclusives. Especially now that you have Xbox and steam trying to use Sony ip as a bullet point.

Sony pulling their games off pc would bring them back to Nintendo levels where you can only play it on our hardware.

Make amazing games so that their system is more desirable.

 

[Hohenheim]

"Console wars" was a bit funny and charming back in the 90's and early 00's just because of how corny and silly it was, and because "everyone" had a console, and we couldn't always afford to have several.

In this day and age it makes no sense, as most gamers are grown ups and not interested in terms like that.
Kids today doesn't grow up with consoles and gaming the same way as back then, and are most interested in Roblox, Fortnite, Minecraft and other stuff that is pretty far removed from the hardware.

 

[Fabieter]

It's not just about exclusives. All platforms have become so homogenized that it's honestly pretty lame. Two decades ago, every system had its own unique hardware and game designs. Now they all feel the same.

 

[Labadal]

For me as a customer, it would be worse.

Not having exclusives makes me think a console isn't worth it.

As a company head, I'd want exclusives. As a customer, I look out for myself.

 

[yogaflame]

Yes, true gaming wars with exclusives brings allot of choices and a much better quality of games since exclusives really take full advantage of the power of a specific platform.

 

[MiguelItUp]

It's a slippery slope to me at this point. For consumers, cross-platform and multi-platform titles are great for a variety of reasons. But a powerful exclusive can move console sales, just like they have in the past. I do appreciate that we see more cross and multi plat titles, but I DO miss the desire of wanting a new console because their new exclusive title(s) look amazing. I grew up being on console, then went to PC & console, and nowadays I'm more PC than anything else. But I'd love to not be, it's just the idea of owning a console these days in most cases just doesn't make any sense, and I miss the want there. I have a PS5, it's basically just kind of sitting there, I want to want a Switch 2, but can't justify the price vs the game selection just yet.

 

[sodstall]

I mean, we've been in a weird, hybrid "content" war for at least 5 years now, idk what other sorta level you compete on besides timed releases at this point.

 

[Generic]

They suck. I want to be able to enjoy my games anywhere, in any device, like I do with movies and shows.

 

[Hawk The Slayer]

I used to like that back in junior high to high school having the Xbox vs PS vs Nintendo chat with friends and classmates. But ever since moving to PC at the end of the PS3 era, I stopped caring for exclusives and just want as much things on the PC as possible.