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Crazy PlayStation Meeting rumors...

Kleegamefan

K. LEE GAIDEN
From Beyond3D:

http://www.beyond3d.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=25008

Take all the following with a solid grain of salt. These rumors are not mine, but are from a message board I often frequent here in Japan. An individual who has been posting there for quite some time always claims he works for Sony, though he never specifies in what context. He has made numerous predictions/claims in the past, but the problem is, not all of them have come to pass.

A few of the things he was right on were the exclusion of the online mode in GT4, PS2 exclusivity for Soul Caliber 3, nVidia partnership with Sony on PS3 GPU and the specific game reels that ran at Sony's 2005 E3 press conference, among other things.

Please, keep in mind however he has also made an almost equal number of claims that have turned up to be false. He's hit and miss, and the board seems to approach all his claims as such.

AGAIN, THESE ARE NOT RUMORS THAT I MYSELF HAVE SUBSTANTIATED, NOR ARE THEY TO BE AUTOMATICALLY CONSIDERED TRUE BY ANY MEANS.

Now, let's have some speculative fun:

-PS3 Value bundle (ala PSP) will be released at launch with HDD of undecided size. No pricing revealed.
-No RSX details revealed.
-A few PS3 tech specs will change, unknown which and if for the better or for the worse.
-2 Namco titles announced for Japanese launch.
-Koei reveals its 2 PS3 launch titles, Dynasty Warriors 6 and Nobunaga's Ambition.
-3 Sega titles announced for Japanese launch, reveals that none of their arcade boards are PS3-based.
-2 Square Enix titles announced for release within first 6 months in Japan (titles are neither Dragon Quest nor Final Fantasy).
-Final Fantasy XIII and Dragon Quest IX to be PS3 exclusive, release dates unknown.
-Winning Eleven 10 exclusive to PS2 and PS3 in Japan.
-7 new game announcements from unknown studios (unknown how many for PS2, PSP or PS3).

There are other rumors, but they mainly pertain to the PS2 and PSP, so I figured I wouldn't bother posting those.

Will these come true? Who knows, but knowing this individual's history, it is wise to remain skeptical, and not jump to conclusions.

Oh and please, no 360 vs. PS3 discussion here, it just isn't needed.
 
Such the grain of salt... but as commentary if reality...

-Final Fantasy XIII and Dragon Quest IX to be PS3 exclusive, release dates unknown.
-Winning Eleven 10 exclusive to PS2 and PS3 in Japan.

That would be it for XBX360 in Japan. It'd be impossible to recover from that trilogy goliath of exclusives. Literally the nuclear bombs of Japanese exclusives.
 
I think Microsoft getting a Dragon Quest exclusive away from Sony would be difficult, to say the least..

A few of the things he was right on were the exclusion of the online mode in GT4, PS2 exclusivity for Soul Caliber 3, nVidia partnership with Sony on PS3 GPU and the specific game reels that ran at Sony's 2005 E3 press conference, among other things.

I dunno what this guy was wrong about, but knowing this kind of info before the fact is pretty impressive if you ask me.....especially the part of the E3 press conference....everyone was surprised by that....
 
Kleegamefan said:
I think Microsoft getting a Dragon Quest exclusive away from Sony would be difficult, to say the least..

Difficult, true. But surely they could at least try to wrestle a Winning Eleven away, or secure multiplatform love with a Final Fantasy game.

Kleegamefan said:
I dunno what this guy was wrong about, but knowing this kind of info before the fact is pretty impressive if you ask me.....especially the part of the E3 press conference....everyone was surprised by that....

Well, I don't know how true even THOSE claims are so it's just a "I know a guy who knows a guy" type situation. And on the internet... well, you know the rest.

A lot of interesting things if true, though. No RSX info is disappointing. And curious about the PS3 spec changes...
 
Three generations in a row, the same thing. Repeat after me: Playstation gets FF, WE, Namco games, Playstation 2 gets FF, WE, Namco games, Playstation 3 gets FF, WE, Namco games...and still leader console. :)
 
Afro Thunder said:
Three generations in a row, the same thing. Repeat after me: Playstation gets FF, WE, Namco games, Playstation 2 gets FF, WE, Namco games, Playstation 3 gets FF, WE, Namco games...and still leader console. :)

Yes, but in PS2 generation XBX got a WE game too and in PS3/360 generation MAJOR rumour is XBX360 gets the Ridge Racer Namco title.

SO... things are a-changin'
 
Amir0x said:
That would be it for XBX360 in Japan. It'd be impossible to recover from that trilogy goliath of exclusives. Literally the nuclear bombs of Japanese exclusives.
haha i love how you put it :D
 
Besides the HDD bundle rumor and maybe WE being exclusive, all the rest are so straight-forward "no shit" that these are pretty boring rumors. It's like saying PS3 "will have a controller in the system at launch"
 
-2 Namco titles announced for Japanese launch.

Tekken Tag Tournament 2 / Tekken 5 1/2 and Ridge Racer :P

-Koei reveals its 2 PS3 launch titles, Dynasty Warriors 6 and Nobunaga's Ambition.

Dynasty Warriors PS3 is inevitable, but seeing it in action in the near future has me secreting pleasure juices.

-3 Sega titles announced for Japanese launch, reveals that none of their arcade boards are PS3-based.

Virtua Fighter 5 for PS3 / Sega domination! Put Namco in it's fucking place. ^_^
 
Bebpo said:
Besides the HDD bundle rumor and maybe WE being exclusive, all the rest are so straight-forward "no shit" that these are pretty boring rumors. It's like saying PS3 "will have a controller in the system at launch"

Honestly, the environment as it is... I wouldn't be surprised by anything anymore, so I never count anything out. Although if these things ARE true it wouldn't be a big surprise or anything, you're right.
 
Sony never made big announcements at the Playstation Meetings.

-No RSX details revealed.
-A few PS3 tech specs will change, unknown which and if for the better or for the worse.

Those stuff will never be discussed at mainstream events like this one.

-3 Sega titles announced for Japanese launch, reveals that none of their arcade boards are PS3-based.

3 launch titles from Sega? So fake :lol

--2 Square Enix titles announced for release within first 6 months in Japan (titles are neither Dragon Quest nor Final Fantasy).

Not gonna happen.

-Final Fantasy XIII and Dragon Quest IX to be PS3 exclusive, release dates unknown.

Square Enix would never annouce such things at an PS Meeting.

-Winning Eleven 10 exclusive to PS2 and PS3 in Japan.

PS2 already confirmed. Exclusive makes no sense (WE is already on Xbox and PC)

Will these come true? Who knows, but knowing this individual's history, it is wise to remain skeptical, and not jump to conclusions.

I think most of the stuff is bs.
 
Bebpo said:
Besides the HDD bundle rumor and maybe WE being exclusive, all the rest are so straight-forward "no shit" that these are pretty boring rumors. It's like saying PS3 "will have a controller in the system at launch"

True, and to a degree this is a problem for Sony in Japan. Such announcements would be more an exercise in reassurance than "surprise" - in terms of "ticking the boxes" there's little Sony can do in Japan to surprise people. In order to generate surprise or excitement they'd have to go beyond just announcing them, and actually show them too (but I would not expect this on Thursday).

I'd take these rumours with a grain of salt..the number of announcements and their type doesn't seem too untypical for a meeting like this, but pre-conference/show rumours rarely deliver ;)

solarplexus said:
Sony never made big announcements at the Playstation Meetings.

It can be a mixed bag from year to year. They did use a Playstation Meeting to reveal a lot of detail on PSP, though. I'm not sure what to expect from this one, though..we're only two months from E3.
 
solarplexus said:
Sony never made big announcements at the Playstation Meetings.
Those stuff will never be discussed at mainstream events like this one.
3 launch titles from Sega? So fake :lol
Not gonna happen.
Square Enix would never annouce such things at an PS Meeting.
PS2 already confirmed. Exclusive makes no sense (WE is already on Xbox and PC)
I think most of the stuff is bs.

Just as a counterpoint:

--3 Sega launch titles is easy assuming they have three next-gen arcade games in the arcades by PS3 launch. Much smarter to throw out these ports at launch when people buy everything rather than a few months later when they'll bomb for sure.

--Square putting out 2 games within 6 months makes a lot of sense assuming they are the non-big name SquareEnix games. Look at PS2, they got Bouncer and Driving Emotion S pretty fast.

--Dunno, they've already pretty much un-officially said FFXIII is for PS3; a quick mention unofficially from Sony saying "we'll have FF and DQ games on PS3 too" isn't that unlikely.

--Where is PS2 WE10 confirmed? Also no point in not making a PS2 version for the millions of PS2 owners who haven't gotten a PS3 yet. Still this is the most BS-sounding rumor just because WE is on Xbox and PC these days and you'd think MS would be paying good money to keep it that way or get exclusive themselves.
 
"Not gonna happen."

Why? They had 2 PS2 games out in the first 6 months of its release (All Star Pro Wrestling and Driving Emotion). So just because its 2 games from them doesn't mean its going to be 2 big RPG's early on.
 
WE has almost always been PS2-exclusive in Japan anyway. The Xbox versions are never released there. The only exception was the GameCube version of WE6FE.
 
btw, I think a forced bundle with an HDD is pretty damn smart. That way 100% of the users will have an HDD and developers can take advantage of it; and at the same time they can say the price of the 'system' is $400/$300 (Japan/US) but sell the 'bundle' for $450/350.

Suddenly the "you'll need to work a few more hours to buy one" and the "it'll sell for under $400 Jpn" quotes make sense.
 
Bebpo said:
Just as a counterpoint:



--Where is PS2 WE10 confirmed?

Some Sony guy in a recent interview said Konami already have Pro Evolution Soccer 6 aka WE10 in development. It seems a bit strange to me when it's predecessor hasn't even been released yet, is this common in game development? It'd be a great PLAYSTATION 3 launch title though. :D
 
ram said:
fake?

condemned
full auto
fifth phantom saga

3 games for launch.
Condemned and Full Auto would certainly never be considered major for PS3 in Japan, I doubt they will even be released there.

As for WE/PES, I know as a fact that MS is trying VERY hard to get the license exclusively to Xbox 360. Of course I doubt Sony will ever let MS outbid them for such a license.
 
solarplexus said:
Sony never made big announcements at the Playstation Meetings.

Times are different. XBox hasn't never made big annoucements in Japan before either. PS3 has never worked with NVidia before. Square has never been on Xbox.

We're going to get alot of firsts.
 
yeah sure. but times are changing - sega got more western games than ever before and even opened a new european studio. and if you look at the last awful games from sega japan (altered beast, virtua quest and astro boy), you can clearly say, that the new next gen games look far more promising than these sale bombs.
 
Blimblim said:
Condemned and Full Auto would certainly never be considered major for PS3 in Japan, I doubt they will even be released there.

As for WE/PES, I know as a fact that MS is trying VERY hard to get the license exclusively to Xbox 360. Of course I doubt Sony will ever let MS outbid them for such a license.

I think he's trying to say "Why is it so hard to believe Sony can get 3 Sega games at launch if MS is able to get 3 Sega games at launch?"
 
Bebpo said:
I think he's trying to say "Why is it so hard to believe Sony can get 3 Sega games at launch if MS is able to get 3 Sega games at launch?"
MS is getting 2 Sega games at launch so far, and both I would not really call Sega games in the first place. They may end up being excellent, but it's not exactly the type of game I expect to see after putting a dvd in my (name your system) and seeing the Sega logo.
 
-Winning Eleven 10 exclusive to PS2 and PS3 in Japan.

SOLD.

...although there really isn't a reason for a WE10/Pro Evo 6 for the PS2 as well, unless they're planning on releasing the thing very very late 2006...
 
ram said:
yeah sure. but times are changing - sega got more western games than ever before and even opened a new european studio. and if you look at the last awful games from sega japan (altered beast, virtua quest and astro boy), you can clearly say, that the new next gen games look far more promising than these sale bombs.

Then what is the point in mentioning titles from Sega. Saying they are from a certain company, to me, means something. It demostrates a persons applied trust in quality, and established brand. Having some games from unproven developers that are only being published by a respected company is not the same thing as getting the games directly from the company. Might as well just say "3 new western IPs with a Major publisher" for all it is worth ANY publisher could be publishing those games.
 
From the time Condemned was announced it was known as Sega's game

condemned9hf.jpg
 
Kleegamefan said:
-A few PS3 tech specs will change, unknown which and if for the better or for the worse.


1 GB of RAM and 4 Ghz CELL CPU? It's good to dream together :lol
 
SolidSnakex said:
I'm simply saying its known as a Sega game. Just as Crash Bandicoot was known as a Sony game.
In the end Crash Bandicoot ended being known as a Naughty Dog game, and if Condemned is succesful you can bet it will be remember as a Monolith game. Especially in the case of Monolith who already have quite a history of good/great games under their name.
 
Crash for as long as it was published by Sony was always known as their answer to Mario. It doesn't matter if they're good or not. Driving Type S was generally considered mediocre and its always been known as a Square game but they didn't develop it, Escape did. Same for The Bouncer, its known as Square's game but it was developed by Dream Factory.
 
After this thread, I decided to get a PS3 over a X360. Not for the rumors but for the fact that there will be lots of PS3 exclusives and Sony won't lose without a tough fight.
 
-3 Sega titles announced for Japanese launch, reveals that none of their arcade boards are PS3-based.

You have to wonder just what happened to Sega Rally '05 for the PS2. They could be reworking it for launch now. Ever since it was a no show at E3 I've suspected something was up,could happen. What better way to put a franchise back on the map than as a launch game.
 
Borys said:
Well I couldn't care less about RR, DW or WE. Give me jRPG love or give me death, PS3.


Well I am sure you will be happy with PS3 because I think there is one think SCEI can still count on is Japanese developer support...

If there is one think MS has an uphill battle agains Sony is with Japanese developer support....its improving but then again, how could it not improve...

I am sure you will get your fill of JapanRPGs on PS3, Final Fantasy or otherwise....
 
More from the same guy, apparently:

-Winning Eleven only exclusive to PS2/PS3 in Japan. US versions and Pro Evo in Europe not exclusive.
-Release windows for PS3: Japan and US simultaneous = Late Spring/Early Summer 2006. Europe/Australia = Fall 2006.
-Resident Evil series in development for PS3 and PSP.
-Itagaki and Team Ninja developing 2 titles for PS3, unknown which or if exclusive or ports.
-PS3 console design getting a slight overhaul, controller design likely to remain.
-Silent Hill 5 in development for PS3, exclusivity undecided.
-Atlus, From Software and Q Entertainment expected to announce titles in development.
-Second HDMI port may be removed.
-Mistwalker surprise announcement (not a Blue Dragon or Lost Odyssey port).
-Level 5 to develop exclusively for PS3.

And for PSP fans:
-SCEI will release 45 more PSP titles by Fall 2006.
-Square Enix currently has 2 more PSP titles in development, besides FFVII:CC.
-PSP and PS3 will use same Live-esque service for online, PlayStation Network, which will launch in 2006..

Smells very fishy to me, but with so many guesses, I guess he can't be wrong on all of them! :lol

Seriously, these japanese message board things never work out. I remember a bunch of pre-E3 rumour from a board (2ch?), although I now can't recall if any of it turned out true.
 
-Release windows for PS3: Japan and US simultaneous = Late Spring/Early Summer 2006. Europe/Australia = Fall 2006.
-Resident Evil series in development for PS3 and PSP.
-PS3 console design getting a slight overhaul, controller design likely to remain.
-Silent Hill 5 in development for PS3, exclusivity undecided.
-Mistwalker surprise announcement (not a Blue Dragon or Lost Odyssey port).
hawt! i'm a happy man if those are true.
 
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