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Creative wins patent for MP3 player interface

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Creative wins patent for MP3 player interface

Creative Technology said Tuesday it has been awarded a patent for a user interface found in its portable media players and in competing devices, such as Apple Computer's iPod.

The digital entertainment company said that on Aug. 9 it received U.S. Patent No. 6,928,433, described as "automatic hierarchical categorization of music by metadata." Creative applied for the patent--which it has dubbed the "Zen Patent," named for its Zen music player--on Jan. 5, 2001.

According to a Creative press release, the interface "enables selection of at least one track in a portable media player as a user sequentially navigates through a hierarchy using three or more successive screens on the display of the player." For example, when a person selects the name of an artist, the player than displays a list of albums for that artist. Selecting the album name then brings up a list of the album's tracks.

Creative first started using the interface in its Nomad Jukebox MP3 player, which it began shipping in September 2000, according to the press release. Apple did not announce its iPod until more than a year later.

Apple filed for a patent on a "user interface in a multimedia player" in late 2002, but its application was recently rejected, Creative's press release said.

Hoping to cut into Apple's market share, Creative recently released a new version of its Zen player that boasts a color screen and a built-in FM radio player and, unlike its iPod rival, can play video. The company also dropped prices on its digital music players during the spring.



Well... this should be interesting...
 
Creative patented "Artist>Album>Title" way of organizing music? WHAT GENIUSES THEY ARE! NO ONE COULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT!!!!






fuckin idiots.
 
Hitman said:
Creative patented "Artist>Album>Title" way of organizing music? WHAT GENIUSES THEY ARE! NO ONE COULD HAVE THOUGHT OF THAT!!!!






fuckin idiots.
Aye, I fucking hate patents like this...besides...that *is* the only good non-random way to organize music =\
 
They're just trying to bask in iPods reflected glory, REFLECTED GLORY!! When they tried to patent their menu system and failed Creative just went out and said 'Hey, look at us, we rooock!'. But yes, very retarded indeed.
 
Drexon said:
They're just trying to bask in iPods reflected glory, REFLECTED GLORY!! When they tried to patent their menu system and failed Creative just went out and said 'Hey, look at us, we rooock!'. But yes, very retarded indeed.

Retarded yes but I don't understand your time table... because Creative filed for the menu system first....
 
DarienA said:
Retarded yes but I don't understand your time table... because Creative filed for the menu system first....
I think he is referring to that apple tried and failed, and that caused creative to release a PR on their success.. not the timing of the filings.

also this means very little. apple can still file a new patent changing things around a bit, even so far as modifying the UI to ipod, and that could stave off any sort of licensing talk for years. hell, by that time apple could have migrated everyone else on to a new UI making Creative's win moot (like Palm did with grafitti)
 
borghe said:
I think he is referring to that apple tried and failed, and that caused creative to release a PR on their success.. not the timing of the filings.

Well dammit I can't interpret intent!!!!!! ;)
 
DarienA said:
According to a Creative press release, the interface "enables selection of at least one track in a portable media player as a user sequentially navigates through a hierarchy using three or more successive screens on the display of the player." For example, when a person selects the name of an artist, the player than displays a list of albums for that artist. Selecting the album name then brings up a list of the album's tracks.

THAT is considered non-obvious?!?!
 
So does this mean that in all future firmware updates for MP3 players... ID3 organizing MUST be the standard and filetree will be done away with?
 
Lemurnator said:
So does this mean that in all future firmware updates for MP3 players... ID3 organizing MUST be the standard and filetree will be done away with?
the opposite actually. it means all future MP3 players will need to pay creative money (if it holds up in court) to be able to sort on artist->album->song.

though to be fair to the USPTO (sure, why not) it's not like patents haven't been overturned on court before. and like neverar alluded to, a patent has to be a non-obvious technology or process to be approved/upheld.
 
Too bad they sent out some players with viruses on them:

http://www.engadget.com/entry/1234000447056446/

Looks like somebody turned off the virus scanner at the Creative production plant—it would appear that about 3,700 Japanese 5GB Zen Neeons shipped since July might have possibly been packing a W32.Wullik.B@mm payload. Of course, if you don’t go running conspicuous applications found on your device and have some cursory virus scanning going on you’ll probably be ok just to wipe the damned thing out of box, but somehow we have a feeling there’ll be an unfortunate few for whom this won’t be too fond an experience.
 
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