Purkake4 said:Goes well with your whole insanity thing, I guess.
Not all the time. Some discussions when I get serious some just take me as joking around. Like I said before if I really get that confusing point out the specifics and I will correct.
Purkake4 said:Goes well with your whole insanity thing, I guess.
Well, the elderly woman was the "least normal" of the two. When I approached them and said hello, she was completely oblivious to me. As far as I could perceive, she did not react to me. She was not startled and did not acknowledge me. The man's quick, expressionless glance was not unnerving, but it was odd. We know some of the occupants of the few houses in the surrounding area, and they have no knowledge of the couple living in the area. Also, there literally was no car. The design of the cemetery, coupled with its small size, renders it impossible for us not to have seen a car enter or exit the single outlet. This couple appeared and disappeared. The only natural explanation I can muster is that they either walked through the cornfields or the gully that surrounds the cemetery. I do not believe in ghosts, so I can only classify this as a mystery.Joe Shlabotnik said:Neat. Anything else out of the ordinary about them?
That is as unbelievable as it's terrible. How could have they left her for three days there with no help? TV crew was there, but they couldn't bring some equipment to lift the concrete off her legs, or as the very least resort, a doctor to sedate her and amputate legs?GalacticAE said:
God's Beard said:
Tonay said:Shagg, I need you to open your mind to the idea that your cousin was not abducted by demons. It's hard, but, go on, try it. Think of the most far-fetched scientific explanation you can think of for everything that happened concerning your cousin. And now realise that the answer is far, far more simple. I'll try and guide you along the right direction...
She hasn't been abducted, she's run away. Sounds like she unfortunately had severe mental problems, which in places like Pakistan aren't treated as mental problems but as spiritual ones. Hence, if someone says they hear voices telling them to do evil things, it's not something as impossible and ridiculous as paranoid schitzophrenia, it's obviously a demon or evil eye or whatever the fuck. They say if you talk to God it's called praying...but if god talks to you, it's called schizophrenia.
This means nothing at all. Absolutely nothing. Incidentally, he's either a charlatan or deeply, deeply, stupid.
Throwing people with extraordinary strength is no proof of anything. When people are enraged and psychotic they have crazy strength against the people who try to hold them back - who are obviously not going to be putting their full angry force into holding down a girl. How did they know the demon wanted to marry her? I'll tell you how because I already know: the girl said it. The girl with mental problems said that she heard voices, and instead of saying "it's ok, don't worry, lets get you to a hospital and see if we can sort this out", your family said "holy shit, what did the voices say? they want to marry you? damn you demons, youll never take her, never i say!".
Nonsense, completely. This is what happens when people hear chinese whispers about something potentially supernatural: it gets exaggerated and exaggerated until it becomes so OBVIOUS that it's nonsense that it would have been better to keep the story how it originally appeared.
My mum grew up in India and she told me when my brother was a kid some ghosts were pulling him away and she had to pull him back. As a kid I believed this fucking shit, but then I got to an age where I thought, 'yeah, not quite'.
If I tell you that I'm sitting right next to my brother and 5 minutes ago he disapeared in a flash of smoke (this is no joke), would you believe me? No. But if your mothers family in Pakistan tell you that the same thing happened to their cousin, would you believe them? Yes, because you already fucking did!
I don't mean to be mean, but when I hear this story all I see is a girl with mental problems who didn't get the medical help she needed, and her family only increased her delusional state, and now she's run away for the last time. A tragic and completely shameful story.
bengraven said:Of course, I'm still fascinated with all this from a mythological perspective: same as vampires, witchcraft and Scientology.
wat the hell o_0shagg_187 said:Yeah it's a bit disturbing since my mom witnessed one of the encounters herself. She was/is haunted/cursed/whatever-you-wanna-call-it. She had been abducted by Jinns/Demons numerous times for a year or so before she disappeared (she has been missing for atleast 3 years now).
The priest who worked on her successful/unsuccessful exorcism has quit practicing it and now has 4 guards guarding his house 24/7.
My mom has seen her throw men (who were trying to control her) who weigh much more than an average person would. The Jinn/Demon wanted to Marry her or something.
At one instance she disappeared in front of their eyes. Ten minutes later, her family got a called from other relatives of mine that she has been sitting in their roof. Mind you, they live approximately four hours away from their home and there is no way in hell anyone could just "disappear" and walk/drive/fly that fast.
I should stop since typing this is making me shiver...
LCGeek said:Why not study the nazis they have a far bigger occult and mythological history when you go looking for it?
Alivor said:So I'm sitting here reading this thread, and my toilet flushed itself. I think there's demons or something. No one was even in the bathroom.
bengraven said:Are you being serious? Because don't make me tag/avatar quote.
Gio_CoD said:I can't speak for demons and ghosts, but the CIA and the US military have done extensive testing on paranormal subjects like ESP, remote viewing, telekinesis, etc... There are studies out there that show that certain people have a much higher than chance aptitude for remote viewing and ESP. Also, while UFOs aren't necessarily paranormal, there are books out there that go into depth explaining how there is a high likelihood that UFOs are man-made aircraft that operate on electrogravitic (anti-gravity) principles. Look up Thomas Townsend Brown and check out some of the anti-gravity experiments that he was able to show in many, many demonstrations.
I find it somewhat ironic that a lot of the "science rules all!" people out there (and there are a lot of them on this message board) are so unwilling to have an open mind that there are new scientific avenues out there that we haven't explored. There's definitely a mentality that we've figured it all out, and everything that doesn't fit into our existing definitions is mass hysteria and schizophrenia.
Gio_CoD said:But the evidence has to conform to your specific standards, right? Let's say that one of the requirements to demonstrate ESP is that the person be comfortable and relaxed. And then Randi requires them to be behind a two-way mirror where he is being constantly observed. Well, then it might not work, right? Let's say a requirement for telekinesis is having the object be unobstructed from the performer, yet Randi requires it be enclosed in a glass covering. That would be enough to stop it from working.
The controls of an experiment can impact the experiment; especially if one is attempting to discover the principles of the experiment.
Cyan said:All right mister smarty-pants Tonay. Try and explain this post: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=167180&highlight=hokes
viakado said:looks like a spider bite. the swelling is an allergic reaction.
I heard a bunch of Jinn stories but this one scares the shit out of me D:shagg_187 said:Yeah it's a bit disturbing since my mom witnessed one of the encounters herself. She was/is haunted/cursed/whatever-you-wanna-call-it. She had been abducted by Jinns/Demons numerous times for a year or so before she disappeared (she has been missing for atleast 3 years now).
The priest who worked on her successful/unsuccessful exorcism has quit practicing it and now has 4 guards guarding his house 24/7.
My mom has seen her throw men (who were trying to control her) who weigh much more than an average person would. The Jinn/Demon wanted to Marry her or something.
At one instance she disappeared in front of their eyes. Ten minutes later, her family got a called from other relatives of mine that she has been sitting in their roof. Mind you, they live approximately four hours away from their home and there is no way in hell anyone could just "disappear" and walk/drive/fly that fast.
I should stop since typing this is making me shiver...
The Bélmez Faces or the Faces of Bélmez is a paranormal phenomenon in a private house in Spain which started in 1971 when residents claimed to see images of faces appear in the concrete floor of the house.
SteelAttack said:Sorry to hear about your dad, man.
For what it's worth, I have always thought of these types of experiences (involving recently deceased people) as something far more believable than mothman or evil monster stuff. My mother always says that I used to talk with my grandfather, who passed away when I was 2, for a while after he died. I don't remember anything about it, though.
LCGeek said:I was being dead serious. You mentioned scientology which while they haven't gone to vile and inhumane acts the nazi's did are in to things of a very similar nature. Nazi's aren't really necessary for the mythology I'm talking about scientology loves ripping off esoteric themes like crazy and adding their own bullshit why not just go straight to the source?
salva said:
I apologize for laughing at your misfortune. It is slightly immature to laugh at a man being hurt in the groin, but that story made me :lol.Emerson said:I then felt the pain of being punched in my balls, hard. This isn't a joke at all. I've been hit in the balls for real and it felt the same. I was terrified and in agonizing pain for a few minutes.
bengraven said:I was comparing Scientologists' religious views on the cowering, garlic-stringing serfs who feared vampires and believed faeries were going to drag them under water to their palaces.
I don't see a valid reason to throw Godwin's law into this at all.
It's about what you believe in and after years of reality clouding fantasy, a person may no longer believe in the paranormal anymore - by choice.
Lionheart1827 said:Well there was this one time that I was vacationing in Italy and I met this young eccentric man, he claimed to be a count. He said that he and his brother who was a historian would offer to give me a tour. So we got into his car and we sped down narrow streets and dusty roads until we came across this huge picturesque estate. On the way there, he mentioned that his brother's life was exaggerated by a famous cannibal curator(hannibal lector). I thought that was pretty cool but it was a bit creepy.
We then went into the estate and he asked if we wanted to see their secret holy place. While showing us I saw in disbelief a saint still dressed in royal clothes behind the altar. We then headed for the wine cellar, and he was telling us that during times of war, legend was traced back inside these castle walls. Soldiers came to hide in barrels filled with wine, but they never escape, and those tombs of oak are where they died. I couldn't believe what I was hearing and was getting increasingly scared for my life. The count eventually noticed that I was upset and distressed and I told him why. He said not to be afraid and he would never hurt me. The chapel, saint, the soldiers in the wine are all stories handed down through time. He said I was free to go of course and to go tell the world his story.
Jackson50 said:I apologize for laughing at your misfortune. It is slightly immature to laugh at a man being hurt in the groin, but that story made me :lol.
this is a cool storymario ate my burger said:
Fenix said:One night in 1999 (or 2000, can't remember for sure), my dad was driving me back from a baseball game just outside of Toronto. Since it was late and I was exhausted, I leaned the seat back and started to doze off. Just before I was about to fall asleep, my head tilted to look out the passenger window and I swear I saw the moon, but it was blood red, and 3 times its normal size. I looked away briefly to see if my dad saw it and when I turned back it was just the normal moon again. I'm still really curious as to what happened in my brain then, but I don't think I'll ever find out :lol
Dresden said:HOLY FUCK
I know it's apparently falsifiable, but those faces creeped the fuck out of me. Jesus.
LCGeek said:True I was just trying to see what sparked scientology specifically in that instance. Mixing densities and their perceptions is a big no in my book as it throws you off. All good regardless.![]()
Not really creepy, but very interesting. The WOW signal is the closest we have to proving there's intelligent life out there.speedpop said:Whilst not as creepy, I think the "Wow! signal" still in the same category.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wow!_signal
Of course i wasn't the first to formulate this theory, but if the choice of words upsets you, replace 'theory' with 'my take on what hapenned...'. From the many possibilities (or theories) this is the one that is very likely to have hapenned, in my opinion.John Dunbar said:i don't think that saying "mutiny" to explain what happened with mary celeste counts as "your theory".
WHAT?!!?!Purkake4 said:The Universe isn't infinite and your posts are incoherent and hard to read.
Again, what? What scientific community would that be?, because i thought the scientific community agreed on the fact that it's uncertain whether the size of the universe is finite or infinite, with many scientists guesstimating that the universe is very possibly infinite.Purkake4 said:The Universe being finite, but expanding has nothing to do with belief, it is the prevailing theory in the scientific community.
shuyin_ said:WHAT?!!?!
Again, what? What scientific community would that be?, because i thought the scientific community agreed on the fact that it's uncertain whether the size of the universe is finite or infinite, with many scientists guesstimating that the universe is very possibly infinite.
Now, the big bang cosmologists sustain the idea that the universe is flat and infinite, but let's consider what you are saying: the universe is finite. What does that imply? Well, if the universe would be finite, that would mean there is a boundary, that it has an end. What is beyond that boundary? What is it expanding into?, because by definition the universe is all there is.
Find the answer to that and you'll have a place near Einstein or Hawking in history.
Of course this is all speculation, but i just wanted to point that the consensus among most cosmologists is that it is flat and infinite and not finite.
Except that the electrogravitic experiments HAVE been carried out in vacuums and have still worked, thus nullifying your ion propulsion theory. Again, try looking into Thomas Townsend Brown and checking about how he proved that ion propulsion wasn't the force behind the thrust of his discs.Holepunch said:Oh and your electromagnetic anti-gravity isn't anti-gravity, its ionizing lift. It's been proven to not work in a vaccuum. Its the same priniciple as any wing or rocket thrust we use today. Plus saying the government researched something doesn't make it real either. There has been plenty research on the existence of the Loch Ness Monster, thats come up empty. Its already been proven that the US Military atleast is testing Saucer-like and Cipher flying machines, but that merely takes the literal term of UFO, the hollywood term for UFOs from outside of Earth is once again baseless or hoaxed.
Gio_CoD said:Except that the electrogravitic experiments HAVE been carried out in vacuums and have still worked, thus nullifying your ion propulsion theory.
You're looking up the complete wrong thing, buddy.KHarvey16 said:"Claims of the device working in a vacuum have also been disproven."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ionocraft
Where have you seen it proven to work in a vacuum?
Gio_CoD said:You're looking up the complete wrong thing, buddy.
Yes you are. A lifter is not the same thing as the discs that Brown experimented with that were shown to work in a vacuum. If you're seriously interested (which you're not), read this:KHarvey16 said:No I'm not.
Gio_CoD said:You're looking up the complete wrong thing, buddy.
Gio_CoD said:Yes you are. A lifter is not the same thing as the discs that Brown experimented with that were shown to work in a vacuum. If you're seriously interested (which you're not), read this:
http://www.amazon.com/dp/159143078X/?tag=neogaf0e-20
It covers lifters (which do work on ion propulsion), and it also covers several other alternative forms of propulsion, including electrogravitic and microwave.
Lol, alright dude! This is what I was talking about earlier. You're wrong, I provided you a resource where you could gather information, and instead of doing so, you're just like, "Nuh uh, read Wikipedia, it's the same thing."KHarvey16 said:No I'm quite sure I'm not. Poke around that wikipedia entry a little, it's the same thing.
Gio_CoD said:Lol, alright dude! This is what I was talking about earlier. You're wrong, I provided you a resource where you could gather information, and instead of doing so, you're just like, "Nuh uh, read Wikipedia, it's the same thing."