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Crusader Kings 2 |OT| Strategy/RPG hybrid goodness
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XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Thanks. Reading it now.
KiwiLannister
Member
I just bought the vanilla game on the steam sale with the intention of playing the GOT mod, I don't need any DLC to do that right?
edgardavids
Member
nope, should run fine.
archnemesis
Member
You can currently get this for $5.80 together with a bunch of other games from Humble Bundle. It's still 39.99 on Steam so that seems too good to be true. Am I missing something? Do I need a bunch of DLC to make it enjoyable?
archnemesis
Member
Thanks! I think I'll give it a try since it's cheap. If I really like it I could always get the DLC later.
lemonlyman
Member
We made a two-hour long Crusader Kings II video tutorial. Hopefully, helpful. Mostly just the basics of getting started.
http://www.joshandjayshow.com/?p=740
http://www.joshandjayshow.com/?p=740
lemonlyman
Member
Yeah I've barely scratched the surface.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
I'm guessing you'll need at least another episode or two to properly cover how to play.
Then export to EU4 and start a new series for that!
lemonlyman
Member
Then export to EU4 and start a new series for that!
That's the plan
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Starting to watch the vid - it's a bit meandering and unfocused for a good while, does it get better?
lemonlyman
Member
Nope!
Alessandro
Member
My first 95 minutes of CK2:
A few seconds later a major scale war triggers: now I'm at war with the HRM because I had joined a "Independent" faction a few minutes earlier. What can I say, I just like to click on things.
It ended poorly. CK2 vs Me 1-0. Tomorrow I'm gonna try something easier.
- started as a duke in Bohemia
- acquired a "have a child" ambition
- conspired against my wife
- killed her and got a more fertile one
- fulfilled ambition
- got excited! I finally am becoming acquainted with some mechanics!
A few seconds later a major scale war triggers: now I'm at war with the HRM because I had joined a "Independent" faction a few minutes earlier. What can I say, I just like to click on things.
It ended poorly. CK2 vs Me 1-0. Tomorrow I'm gonna try something easier.
I started playing this game a month ago or something like that, and already have 73 hours registered, it's really interesting.
In my current play trough i started as Castille, and i have been able to conquer the whole Iberian peninsula, forming the Hispania empire, also won a crusade for Lithuania and i have been expanding using holy war cassus belly in the north. After that i invade the HRE with the pope's blessing, and now i am in a pretty powerful position.
My doubt now is about the mongol hordes, what is the best strategy to deal with them? The pope has called a crusade for Hungary, but i find pretty hard to fight the huge (100-150K) horde... i mean, yes there are more soldiers on my empire, but attrition makes very difficult to form armies of that size.
Suggestions?
Edit: Check this fucking disaster, having a larger army and terrain hills as an advantage:
I guess their mounted archers are killing machines.
In my current play trough i started as Castille, and i have been able to conquer the whole Iberian peninsula, forming the Hispania empire, also won a crusade for Lithuania and i have been expanding using holy war cassus belly in the north. After that i invade the HRE with the pope's blessing, and now i am in a pretty powerful position.
My doubt now is about the mongol hordes, what is the best strategy to deal with them? The pope has called a crusade for Hungary, but i find pretty hard to fight the huge (100-150K) horde... i mean, yes there are more soldiers on my empire, but attrition makes very difficult to form armies of that size.
Suggestions?
Edit: Check this fucking disaster, having a larger army and terrain hills as an advantage:
I guess their mounted archers are killing machines.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
The best way to handle the Mongols, if you are in western Europe, is to simply wait for the late game to fight them. By that time they will have usually exhausted their massive doomstacks because their initial Mongolian units do not reinforce immediately once killed, and eventually they'll begin to rely more and more on their regular, attrition-prone levies. If you are trying to fight them, however, then the most elegant solution is to lure them to a nearby sea province with one of your stacks, with as many units as you can muster waiting in boats to disembark just outside of the port. If you time it correctly, then you can basically join all your levies together into one massive force without suffering any attrition. Of course, that strategy might not always be possible depending on where you fight them.
Thanks for the advice mate!
I got around 250K soldiers on a big fleet and jumped on the Mongol horde when they came chasing another small army, it worked!
The crusade has finished and now i also have Hungary.
Now i can create the title of Carpathia empire, is it a good idea? How does it work as i already have another empire? Vassal empire or independent?
I got around 250K soldiers on a big fleet and jumped on the Mongol horde when they came chasing another small army, it worked!
The crusade has finished and now i also have Hungary.
Now i can create the title of Carpathia empire, is it a good idea? How does it work as i already have another empire? Vassal empire or independent?
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
Since emperor is the highest level title, you have to hold both titles simultaneously. Giving it away would cause it to become independent. The main advantage of holding two emperor level titles, besides the prestige gain, is entirely psychological. It's immensely satisfying to collect as many emperor titles as possible. The downside is that there are obvious headaches associated with keeping another big title, one that you must personally hold at all times. You have to make sure that all your titles have the same succession laws, for instance. I believe vassals will desire titles that aren't your primary one, so there might be a negative opinion modifier for kings within that de jure empire (I'm not entirely sure if this is actually the case).
Thanks again for the advice.
I was able to change the succession law of the HRE to primogeniture, so now my next character will inherit the two imperial crowns.
I have 4 male heirs now, so the others will get some kingdoms, but i am ok with that.
I hope my current character lives long enough to see the "change succession laws" modifier expire, if not, it's going to be difficult to have all the vassals happy.
Also the empire has grown quite a bit:
After defeating the hordes, the two mongol nations are an easy prey; the Egypt sultan is also losing terrain... i don't really know what to do about the Bizantine Empire, it would be great to get it, but they are pretty stable, i have never seen an independent war withing the Empire, and i am not planing to claim it county by county; probably will leave them alone.
I was able to change the succession law of the HRE to primogeniture, so now my next character will inherit the two imperial crowns.
I have 4 male heirs now, so the others will get some kingdoms, but i am ok with that.
I hope my current character lives long enough to see the "change succession laws" modifier expire, if not, it's going to be difficult to have all the vassals happy.
Also the empire has grown quite a bit:
After defeating the hordes, the two mongol nations are an easy prey; the Egypt sultan is also losing terrain... i don't really know what to do about the Bizantine Empire, it would be great to get it, but they are pretty stable, i have never seen an independent war withing the Empire, and i am not planing to claim it county by county; probably will leave them alone.
20 years to finish the campaign and i am very hook up right now, it's more interesting than ever.
I was able to marry a grandson to an heir of Bizancio, unfortunately her father died year later, so i had to go to war against to make effective her claim. Now she is the Empress and my son the consort Emperor, but sadly the Bizancio is pretty fragmented right now; and they fucking hate her guts.
I got control of England with another marriage, and my current player is the first king of England of my dynasty.
A couple of decades ago the Thimurids arrived and grab a fair ammount of land in Persia, i was going to leave them alone, hoping that they centered their attention on Bizancio, but they decided to invade my Arabic lands... without being able to crush them with massive disembarks, it was a pretty hard fight, but at the end i defeated their doomstack, and now everything is easy on that front.
I want to try to grab as much as i can in this last years... it's not going to be very easy, because my character has some nasty traits, so the Pax of my own empire is kind of fragile; but i have a lot of money to deal with any problems.
Garnet - Thimurids
Purple - The part of Bizancio "controlled" by my daughter in law.
I was able to marry a grandson to an heir of Bizancio, unfortunately her father died year later, so i had to go to war against to make effective her claim. Now she is the Empress and my son the consort Emperor, but sadly the Bizancio is pretty fragmented right now; and they fucking hate her guts.
I got control of England with another marriage, and my current player is the first king of England of my dynasty.
A couple of decades ago the Thimurids arrived and grab a fair ammount of land in Persia, i was going to leave them alone, hoping that they centered their attention on Bizancio, but they decided to invade my Arabic lands... without being able to crush them with massive disembarks, it was a pretty hard fight, but at the end i defeated their doomstack, and now everything is easy on that front.
I want to try to grab as much as i can in this last years... it's not going to be very easy, because my character has some nasty traits, so the Pax of my own empire is kind of fragile; but i have a lot of money to deal with any problems.
Garnet - Thimurids
Purple - The part of Bizancio "controlled" by my daughter in law.
AstroZombie
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Vigilant Walrus
Member
I've been meaning to play this. Of all my Total War games I keep going back to Medival 2: Kingdoms expansions and do the jerusalem campaign. its so fascinating!
Well, it is the best game Paradox has put out.
Cyborgmatt
Member
For those interested in the game it is on today's daily Steam sale however I came across this bundle on Amazon for $9.99 which gets you more for your money.
http://www.amazon.com/Paradox-Grand-Strategy-Pack-Download/
http://www.amazon.com/Paradox-Grand-Strategy-Pack-Download/
Why is Paradox not discounting Sons of Abraham? Why?!
Hey guys, just noticed the CKII Collection is on sale on GMG making it $79 (Australian here) down to $19 + 25% Voucher bringing it down to $15, which seems like an incredible deal. How is this game anyway? I haven't really played any grand strategy games before, the only thing I've really played is Civ5 and Shogun 2 which I really liked. Is this game for me?
Yeah I grabbed it. Too good of a deal to pass up lol.
Same for me and I found CK2 to be one of the most enjoyable (and time consuming...) games I've played in the last years.
You mostly learn it just by playing. And if something happens you can't make any sense of you still have Google or this thread.
So guys, we are starting a CK2 MP game here on GAF:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=808327
Feel free to join!
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=808327
Feel free to join!
archnemesis
Member
It's a complicated game. I feel like I need to take two weeks off from work to learn the basics.
You mean 2? #100postsperpagemasterrace
You like Game of Thrones? Play the Game of Thrones mod in the beginning and just do what you want to do. You will probably fail hilariously but learn what the heck is going on while you are doing that.
archnemesis
Member
I've read all the books but I don't have an urge to recreate the novel inside a game. A historic setting is more interesting to me.
Then just play some Earl in Ireland and try to become King. That's also a good learning scenario.
Mr. Luchador
Member
Game of Thrones mod is awesome, I highly recommend it (only if you don't mind spoilers).
So, I just have to bump this topic after what happened to me in my game this weekend. I was just casually playing as the mightiest vassal in the world, conquering lands and never having to worry about a single war because my liege dealt with that shit, when I married my son to the daughter of the Kaiser of an AI formed Empire of Francia (those damn Karlings, am I right?). She was second in line for the inheritance, but I decided against killing her brother because I liked being an almighty vassal. Also, I didn't particularly like the prospect of inheriting (literally) the entirety of Western Europe as a foreigner and infidel (I converted to Manichean not long after marrying my son, because I could).
...and then some vassal (a woman I now call (mild GoT-spoilers)
, even though she actually was just a random countess) decided she didn't like the Kaiser's only son and whacked his ass. This in turn led to the daughter I married to my son inheriting the throne and eventually I inherited the Empire of Francia, which span from Africa to Norway (and incidentally also included the entire Italian Peninsula, which they took from me in the most useless Crusade ever since I inherited that land not a year later). This might've been the most succesful marriage I've ever done in this game and it was purely unintentional.
Some other weird stuff in my current game:
The AI forming the Empire of Carpathia, never seen them do that before
The Kingdom of Abyssinia not only surviving the onslaught of the muslims, but managing to grow and even stay Miaphysite. I fully expect them to form the Empire before 1453.
The Ilkhanate converting to the (long dead) Nestorian religion
...and then some vassal (a woman I now call (mild GoT-spoilers)
Queen of Thorns
Some other weird stuff in my current game:
The AI forming the Empire of Carpathia, never seen them do that before
The Kingdom of Abyssinia not only surviving the onslaught of the muslims, but managing to grow and even stay Miaphysite. I fully expect them to form the Empire before 1453.
The Ilkhanate converting to the (long dead) Nestorian religion
Hi, sorry for pushing this old thread, but I gotta ask. I played a bit of CKII with mates and at some point one always popped out of sync. We tried to save and restart and delete temporary files, but to little avail. At most we got a few more minutes until the next desync. The threads appearing when googling are not very helpful either. Does anyone here have experience and a possible solution with this?
Anyone tried Monks and Mystics yet? Incredible that this game is still getting support (5 years later) although I've always found the DLC to be a bit pricey for what you get.
Quick run down of highlights of messing about for a few hours:
Lusty character.
Sister got involved with satanism.
Some incest later, I'm sacrificing holy men and POWs to Satan.
Widows for a Satan worshipping harem.
Wife mysteriously disappears.
Several churches are burnt down by order of the higher ups.
New wife isn't happy with new evil abode, leading to more affairs and orgies.
Curse brother to hurry along my succession to crown; marshal just isn't enough.
Affair with Queen of Scotland. Turns sour after trying to indoctrinate her into Satanism.
Sacrifice a few too many people and rest of England discovers my deeds. Brother upheaves the entire order to keep the crown from me, sends me off to fight French.
Wife isn't happy. Try to use dark powers to make her loyal. She loses her mind instead.
Several bastards die via hands of various mistresses' various plots to see their son on top. Lunatic wife is oddly resistant to the plots against her, even when I try and help out. Eventually do a Satanic divorce (sacrifice).
My dude eventually dies repelling the French in Normandy.
Left with half a dozen kids <10 who all hate each other.
Court is split about 50/50 Christian/Satanist and a few stray crazies who have seen too much shit.
It's a ton of fun and exactly what I wanted from CK2 with mystical weirdness.