VulcanRaven
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I might watch it. Its from the director of GoldenEye, Casino Royale and The Mask of Zorro.
try hard Die Hard
Very few female stars managed to surprise me when it comes to action such as Charlize, but Daisy aint it chief. I just dont see it.
Oh yeah, anyone see this? The new The Killer on....peacock? maybe? Just keep that streak going.....
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The sequel should be the Washer.Can't wait for the The Sandwich Maker.
Eh, he's also the director of Green Lantern and some fairly formulaic actioners (The Protege, The Foreigner, and I've not seen Memory yet but reviews suggest it's mid) which is why this film is squarely in his wheelhouse but it's likely to be elevated in any particular way. Not sure the writing team is particularly inspired either. But who knows, I watch all this stuff anyway as at least the action choreography in this genre has hit a certain competent level, though the over use of CG gunplay threatens to ruin it.I might watch it. Its from the director of GoldenEye, Casino Royale and The Mask of Zorro.
100lb female is unstoppable against 200lb+ men
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I'm not exactly disagreeing with this sentiment, but it's weird how we're willing to suspend our disbelief if it's 1 dude beating up a bunch of other dudes at once, but if it's 1 chick beating a bunch of dudes, it's absurd. Both scenarios are very unlikely, it's just one is a bit harder than the other.
Even a trained 180lbs MMA fighter probably would not want to get into a street fight against 5 or 6 guys if they all attacked him at once. I can understand the "optics" of a small girl beating up a bunch of guys is ridiculous, but let's be real. A guy probably wouldn't either.
Not trying to make a statement or stand on a soap box. I just think it's a bit funny.
Most of the time they let the hero either get hurt or give him some trouble against a big guy. Or try to use the man physique, charisma or knowlege of martial arts to sell it. A trained 180lbs MMA fighter can't beat 5 or 6 guys, but he can at least try. If the woman can't at least seems to be clearly better than one dude, how can she beat half a dozen? I never got problems believing in actions scenes with woman who seems to know kung fu like Kelly hu.I'm not exactly disagreeing with this sentiment, but it's weird how we're willing to suspend our disbelief if it's 1 dude beating up a bunch of other dudes at once, but if it's 1 chick beating a bunch of dudes, it's absurd. Both scenarios are very unlikely, it's just one is a bit harder than the other.
Even a trained 180lbs MMA fighter probably would not want to get into a street fight against 5 or 6 guys if they all attacked him at once. I can understand the "optics" of a small girl beating up a bunch of guys is ridiculous, but let's be real. A guy probably wouldn't either.
Not trying to make a statement or stand on a soap box. I just think it's a bit funny.
Agreed, though these days they tend to do a better job showing the smaller, slighter woman using her body weight to take down guys or dodging and striking rather than just the toe to toe slugfest we used to get with the men. It's the "spaghetti noodle arm over head block of a massive hammer fist strike" bit that still persists and really grinds my gears.I'm not exactly disagreeing with this sentiment, but it's weird how we're willing to suspend our disbelief if it's 1 dude beating up a bunch of other dudes at once, but if it's 1 chick beating a bunch of dudes, it's absurd. Both scenarios are very unlikely, it's just one is a bit harder than the other.
I'd take her dirty or clean.How dirty was she before?
This, is my BROOMSTICK!
So bingo carding it...Ooof.
I love some of Martin Campbell's work, but this has bomb written all over it.
Hope it ends up being good, but how much more proof is needed that Daisy Ridley can't carry/open a movie?
I'm calling it that the final scene takes place on a window washing davit (I had to look that equipment up), and she "cleans" up the baddies.
I'm not exactly disagreeing with this sentiment, but it's weird how we're willing to suspend our disbelief if it's 1 dude beating up a bunch of other dudes at once, but if it's 1 chick beating a bunch of dudes, it's absurd. Both scenarios are very unlikely, it's just one is a bit harder than the other.
Even a trained 180lbs MMA fighter probably would not want to get into a street fight against 5 or 6 guys if they all attacked him at once. I can understand the "optics" of a small girl beating up a bunch of guys is ridiculous, but let's be real. A guy probably wouldn't either.
Not trying to make a statement or stand on a soap box. I just think it's a bit funny.
Jar Jar Binks?Has anyone come out of new star wars with a career bump?
Keira is a much better actress.Daisy Ridley always struck me as a Kmart version of Keira knightley
The one where she can hear the thoughts of men so all the women had to go into hiding? Yeah, it wasn't great.Did her movie with Tom Holland ever came out? Disney really fucked up her career.
It is not well liked. Some wonky scifi premise about toxic masculinity, never bothered.Did her movie with Tom Holland ever came out? Disney really fucked up her career.
It is not well liked. Some wonky scifi premise about toxic masculinity, never bothered.
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I don't even make it to any action scenes to see if Ridley did any good. Her accent is grating and the setup to the action bored me too much.
Just saw it today. It was okay. I'd put it on the same level as Skyscraper with Dwayne Johnson. Fun for people who like Die Hard-likes, but not memorable.Pretty sure Martin Campbell makes the most watchable movies, so let's hold the Daisy Ridley stuff.
I bet you will like this movie!
Interestingly, if you look at Tom Holland and Ridley's careers. They are similar.Did her movie with Tom Holland ever came out? Disney really fucked up her career.
This just speaks more towards Anthony Mackie's point about less and less 'superstars' being made over the years and more and more 'superheroes' being made instead.Interestingly, if you look at Tom Holland and Ridley's careers. They are similar.
When they are put in big name movies (SW, Marvel, cartoon) they movies make tons of money selling themselves.
When they are in no name IPs and they are the lead, the movies make almost no money like nobody cares or even knows they are in a movie, since it's not SW or Spiderman or UC.
That's because neither is a MOVIE STAR in the sense that folks go see THEM versus a character they play. Think about Arnold Schwarzeneggar. He has some really dogshit films but even the trash like Raw Deal is watchable because he has charisma and charm to carry it. But Tom and Daisy, along with most actors working today, are trumped up character actors at best, one-hit wonders that REALLY hit in something to carry them for a short career being more likely. Or, like Chris Hemsworth, are goofy actors trapped in the body of a greek god.Interestingly, if you look at Tom Holland and Ridley's careers. They are similar.
When they are put in big name movies (SW, Marvel, cartoon) they movies make tons of money selling themselves.
When they are in no name IPs and they are the lead, the movies make almost no money like nobody cares or even knows they are in a movie that's not SW or Spiderman or UC.
For Hemsworth I'd argue he found a new lane he was doing well in, Action, which was working well for him until he had that medical scare.That's because neither is a MOVIE STAR in the sense that folks go see THEM versus a character they play. Think about Arnold Schwarzeneggar. He has some really dogshit films but even the trash like Raw Deal is watchable because he has charisma and charm to carry it. But Tom and Daisy, along with most actors working today, are trumped up character actors at best, one-hit wonders that REALLY hit in something to carry them for a short career being more likely. Or, like Chris Hemsworth, are goofy actors trapped in the body of a greek god.
Interestingly, if you look at Tom Holland and Ridley's careers. They are similar.
When they are put in big name movies (SW, Marvel, cartoon) they movies make tons of money selling themselves.
When they are in no name IPs and they are the lead, the movies make almost no money like nobody cares or even knows they are in a movie, since it's not SW or Spiderman or UC.
Raw Deal isnt one of Arnie's best movies.... it has a weird way of constantly cutting from scene to scene. But on my stream box I got the Arnie channel which has his movies on 24/7. When Raw Deal is on, I watch it for the key fights and the hot milfy blonde. lolThat's because neither is a MOVIE STAR in the sense that folks go see THEM versus a character they play. Think about Arnold Schwarzeneggar. He has some really dogshit films but even the trash like Raw Deal is watchable because he has charisma and charm to carry it. But Tom and Daisy, along with most actors working today, are trumped up character actors at best, one-hit wonders that REALLY hit in something to carry them for a short career being more likely. Or, like Chris Hemsworth, are goofy actors trapped in the body of a greek god.
Yeah, End of Days was probably the end of his stellar run, though I kinda like T3 and even Genesys. Stuff like Collateral Damage or Sixth Day COULD have been fun as 80's camp with a younger Arnie, but not him 50+ at that point and the film style of that era. I think he has had a little resurgence with Sabotage, Mandy, that Texas one, or the FUBAR show. Interesting that Stallone is doing the same with his end career. Those two can really have a battle with their film catalogues.Raw Deal isnt one of Arnie's best movies.... it has a weird way of constantly cutting from scene to scene. But on my stream box I got the Arnie channel which has his movies on 24/7. When Raw Deal is on, I watch it for the key fights and the hot milfy blonde. lol
But I agree with actor's charisma. Though he was getting old and I think all his movies 2000+ were crap, he had that god tier of movies from 80s to I'd say End of Days. I'll always stick by Jungle all the Way and end of Days being good movies though they got roasted. But he had some shit ones. Last Action Hero I never got through even though I tried a few times. But you put him on screen and he just sticks out as fun to watch even in bad movies.
Total Recall is my fav movie of all time. I've tried convincing people at work who never watched it to try it. Always got denied. lol
I never gave his 2000+ movies much of a chance as I only saw some of them. For me, once a TV show or movie dude I like starts going south I give up on it. I think the Texan one you mentioned is Last Stand. Never saw it. Saw Johnny Knoxville is in it and assumed it's a goofy action comedy movie. I might give Aftermath a try.Yeah, End of Days was probably the end of his stellar run, though I kinda like T3 and even Genesys. Stuff like Collateral Damage or Sixth Day COULD have been fun as 80's camp with a younger Arnie, but not him 50+ at that point and the film style of that era. I think he has had a little resurgence with Sabotage, Mandy, that Texas one, or the FUBAR show. Interesting that Stallone is doing the same with his end career. Those two can really have a battle with their film catalogues.
The easy answer is that they are mediocre. Zero charisma and poor acting skills.
This is the modern Hollywood prototype: forgetable physically, mediocre performers, no aura at all.
In action movies, the suspension of disbelief works for Arnie, Bruce Willis or Keanu Reeves because they have presence. Daisy Ridley as MC in this role feels like a porn parody without porn.
Well look whats on now.... lolThat's because neither is a MOVIE STAR in the sense that folks go see THEM versus a character they play. Think about Arnold Schwarzeneggar. He has some really dogshit films but even the trash like Raw Deal is watchable because he has charisma and charm to carry it. But Tom and Daisy, along with most actors working today, are trumped up character actors at best, one-hit wonders that REALLY hit in something to carry them for a short career being more likely. Or, like Chris Hemsworth, are goofy actors trapped in the body of a greek god.
Can you explain to me why you think Raw Deal is trash that is watchable because Arnie has charisma? Doesn't that movie have a who's who of 80's character actors, twisting plot lines, and a bitchin' soundtrack?That's because neither is a MOVIE STAR in the sense that folks go see THEM versus a character they play. Think about Arnold Schwarzeneggar. He has some really dogshit films but even the trash like Raw Deal is watchable because he has charisma and charm to carry it. But Tom and Daisy, along with most actors working today, are trumped up character actors at best, one-hit wonders that REALLY hit in something to carry them for a short career being more likely. Or, like Chris Hemsworth, are goofy actors trapped in the body of a greek god.
It has the line."You should not drink...and bake"Can you explain to me why you think Raw Deal is trash that is watchable because Arnie has charisma? Doesn't that movie have a who's who of 80's character actors, twisting plot lines, and a bitchin' soundtrack?
As someone who has been studying martial arts most of my life I can assure you I know several 100ish lb women that would curb stomp 90% of the men walking the face of the earth100lb female is unstoppable against 200lb+ men
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The worst part I hate about those type of fight scenes are usually one guy at a time takes a guy at the single guyI'm not exactly disagreeing with this sentiment, but it's weird how we're willing to suspend our disbelief if it's 1 dude beating up a bunch of other dudes at once, but if it's 1 chick beating a bunch of dudes, it's absurd. Both scenarios are very unlikely, it's just one is a bit harder than the other.
Even a trained 180lbs MMA fighter probably would not want to get into a street fight against 5 or 6 guys if they all attacked him at once. I can understand the "optics" of a small girl beating up a bunch of guys is ridiculous, but let's be real. A guy probably wouldn't either.
Not trying to make a statement or stand on a soap box. I just think it's a bit funny.
The guy with the video recorded a couple of those masked thugs harassing what looked like tourists and those thugs wanted the recordingthis is amazing. Why did that dude chase him?
This can be true, IF these highly trained athletic warrior women were fighting the typical 200 pound schlubs off the street. But in these films they are almost ALWAYS fighting other fighters. I'm unaware of ANY women earning big bucks fighting larger men, or really men at all outside of kids leagues, exhibitions, or publicity stunts where a highly trained woman fights basically a schlub off the street. Find me a trained MALE fighter that does any shows where he fights women off the street.....that tells you all you need to know.As someone who has been studying martial arts most of my life I can assure you I know several 100ish lb women that would curb stomp 90% of the men walking the face of the earth