VulcanRaven
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I might watch it. Its from the director of GoldenEye, Casino Royale and The Mask of Zorro.
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Daisy Ridley is...Cleaner
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Von Hugh
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Nice.
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The Cockatrice
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Very few female stars managed to surprise me when it comes to action such as Charlize, but Daisy aint it chief. I just dont see it.
SJRB
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Charlize also has 10,000 times the screen presence and charisma compared to Daisy Ridley.
scoobidoo112
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Oh yeah, anyone see this? The new The Killer on....peacock? maybe? Just keep that streak going.....
Legit one of the worst movies I've seen in theaters this year.
And I like Natalie Emanuelle and went in with a positive attitude.
Stick with the original.
AJUMP23
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The sequel should be the Washer.
efyu_lemonardo
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Wax on wax off motherfuckers!
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Eh, he's also the director of Green Lantern and some fairly formulaic actioners (The Protege, The Foreigner, and I've not seen Memory yet but reviews suggest it's mid) which is why this film is squarely in his wheelhouse but it's likely to be elevated in any particular way. Not sure the writing team is particularly inspired either. But who knows, I watch all this stuff anyway as at least the action choreography in this genre has hit a certain competent level, though the over use of CG gunplay threatens to ruin it.
Madflavor
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100lb female is unstoppable against 200lb+ men
I'm not exactly disagreeing with this sentiment, but it's weird how we're willing to suspend our disbelief if it's 1 dude beating up a bunch of other dudes at once, but if it's 1 chick beating a bunch of dudes, it's absurd. Both scenarios are very unlikely, it's just one is a bit harder than the other.
Even a trained 180lbs MMA fighter probably would not want to get into a street fight against 5 or 6 guys if they all attacked him at once. I can understand the "optics" of a small girl beating up a bunch of guys is ridiculous, but let's be real. A guy probably wouldn't either.
Not trying to make a statement or stand on a soap box. I just think it's a bit funny.
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INC
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Sure, and i don't disagree, I just hate how strong female characters are just Mary Sued in Hollywood for the sake of it
Some of my favourite movies ever have strong female characters, that don't pander to this, Riley, Sarah Conor, Clarice Starlin, The bride, furiosa etc etc
My opinion probably stems more from bias tbh, because I just can't stand daisey ridley, awful actor in even more awful star wars films
Daneel Elijah
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Most of the time they let the hero either get hurt or give him some trouble against a big guy. Or try to use the man physique, charisma or knowlege of martial arts to sell it. A trained 180lbs MMA fighter can't beat 5 or 6 guys, but he can at least try. If the woman can't at least seems to be clearly better than one dude, how can she beat half a dozen? I never got problems believing in actions scenes with woman who seems to know kung fu like Kelly hu.
Agreed, though these days they tend to do a better job showing the smaller, slighter woman using her body weight to take down guys or dodging and striking rather than just the toe to toe slugfest we used to get with the men. It's the "spaghetti noodle arm over head block of a massive hammer fist strike" bit that still persists and really grinds my gears.
I've been watching that chariot racing "Those who are about to Die" show and it has some fairly good fights, but then they fell for the typical "woman must win" bit and had this BRUTE of a guy, who has casually killed numerous characters in the show, suddenly be unable to end this small woman, despite punching her in the face 4-5 times, landing horrific body strikes, all that. As a narrative moment it still works because she might die and they wanted to drag out the fight, but in the context of the rest of the show it REALLY stands out when one person suddenly becomes a classic damage sponge. That stuff sorta works when its Arnold Schwarzeneggar or Stallone taking the punches, but when a 130 pound middle aged lady is taking bare knuckle strikes to the face from a 240 pound guy....nah man, that don't fly anymore.
IntentionalPun
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Love these kind of movies. Really just boils down to how well the star pulls off the action. Statham is king. Denzel probably 2nd; honestly Neeson isn’t that great but he’s at least a big dude.
Hopefully Ridley can pull it off but I have very serious doubts lol
Hopefully Ridley can pull it off but I have very serious doubts lol
mitch1971
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I'd take her dirty or clean.
ForAcademicPurposes
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This, is my BROOMSTICK!
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So bingo carding it...
"Move over Mr. Clean."
"Mr. Clean is a <insert derogatory term>
"Spotless"
"He left fingerprints on my windows!" explaining why she killed someone....
StueyDuck
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I don't think it's really that you can't suspend you disbelief for one over the other.
There have been plenty of great action flicks with women leads or sides kicking butt. Heck even Ana de armas made a bad bond movie good in that regard.
I feel what is letting these down is the choreography. Seeing a 5ft 2 100lb throwing fists and knocking out literal muscle men just looks stupid, movies learnt years ago that you make female actions scenes more acrobatic and more "graceful". Even something like black widow in iron man 2 is believable (even though it isn't really) because it was choreographed for a woman.
These days it always seems like choreography made for men and then they just drop a woman in instead and that's when the brain clicks and goes, this looks stupid, subconsciously.
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